i new one engine was still going looking at the first slash marks on the roof, shame he didn't have the time to stall it onto the roof of the building. R.I.P guys!
yes it will be interesting to see what the investigation shows, hope it's not a lack of maintenance. Twin engine should be able to fly on one engine but if it's just after take off maybe not enough altitude to adjust to one engine?
According to some reports, he was trying to turn it back to the airport. He may have thought of trying to land it on the roof. If he'd turned right, he would have landed on the cars.
I feel his choice to drop it on the roof would have been the best only option unfortantly it looks like it over shot the roof then dropped and exploded. I watched all the updates as soon as it happened and the media at 9am where saying the pilot mayday with total engine loss but now they are saying the only word he issued was maday. Apparently the type of aircraft involved should have been able to climb out of that situation on one engine. Aircraft Investigation time!
What sort of morons would build a big shopping mall at the end of a runway
I'm not sure if there is a shopping mall at the end of the runways that's now just media talk. If you loose a engine the plane/boat is going to steer to the opposite bank to the existing running engine. Should be corrected with trim and power settings.
FFS there are shopping malls, motels, hotels, freeways at end of airports all over the world.
Everybody is happy shopping there, now there has been an accident all ****in hell breaks loose with the pissy doo gooders.
Its about. Arrh forget it I get too riled up over calamity janes geting their knickers in a knot
Yep Km on the roads and knots on the water and in the air! Or speed over earth which either way you look at it.
i new one engine was still going looking at the first slash marks on the roof, shame he didn't have the time to stall it onto the roof of the building. R.I.P guys!
Sorry SA, but 'stalling' is uncontrolled flight. You are better 'flying' to the crash site.
Twin engine should be able to fly on one engine but if it's just after take off maybe not enough altitude to adjust to one engine?
Not all, and certainly not most light twins, but a Kingair, yes. It should have climbed if climbing STRAIGHT especially considering it only had four passengers.
Most annoying is the effing media highlighting the pilot was under investigation, with a trickle in the end as to what for. I effing well hate the effing media
RIP for all those that were lost
i new one engine was still going looking at the first slash marks on the roof, shame he didn't have the time to stall it onto the roof of the building. R.I.P guys!
Sorry SA, but 'stalling' is uncontrolled flight. You are better 'flying' to the crash site.
Twin engine should be able to fly on one engine but if it's just after take off maybe not enough altitude to adjust to one engine?
Not all, and certainly not most light twins, but a Kingair, yes. It should have climbed if climbing STRAIGHT especially considering it only had four passengers.
if he was flying he should have flown out on one prop. Who knows time will tell and lessons hopefuly will be learnt.
if he was flying he should have flown out on one prop. Who knows time will tell and lessons hopefuly will be learnt.
I think you mistook what I was trying to say. You are right of course to say the above. What I was trying to get at was you don't want to stall an aircraft like a Kingair ever. Maybe I should have said 'control' it to the....... That also being said, maybe he didn't have control of it.
According to some reports, he was trying to turn it back to the airport. He may have thought of trying to land it on the roof. If he'd turned right, he would have landed on the cars.
Planes land on runways, anywhere else is a crash.
They said this morning that the same type of aircraft had a engine failure which also failed the auto feather which caused a aircraft to bank sharp . If the prop doesn't feather after a shut down I'm guessing it would act like a brake and full power to fly out would be useless. They recovered the black box today so should get some results in the next month or so.
The difference with the Hudson is he had time to climb out..**** I need to see that movie sully forgot about that! I think the King air had about 60 seconds before impact.
Probably no two are the same, can't train for that, that's why you need a pilot, Sully was good, he quickly made a plan and went for it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
"At 3:27:36, using the call sign "Cactus 1539 [sic],"[26] Sullenberger radioed New York Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON):[27] "Hit birds. We've lost thrust on both engines. We're turning back towards LaGuardia". Air traffic controller Patrick Harten[28] told its tower to hold all departures, and directed Sullenberger back to Runway 13.[27] Sullenberger responded, "Unable".[27]
Sullenberger asked if they could attempt to land in New Jersey, mentioning Teterboro Airport;[27][29][30] controllers obtained permission for a landing on Teterboro's Runway 1.[30] Sullenberger responded: "We can't do it ... We're gonna be in the Hudson".[29]"
It was possible to climb out if the one remaining was still running at full power and the failed engine feathered the prop. Other than that it was a rapid dive/stall to the Port into the building roof in 60 seconds!
Hmmm firstly horriable and condolences i got 2 points explained to me by my old man at about 10 years or age that stuck with me for life about flying 1 BIRDS DO NOT FLY AT NIGHT A NIETHER DO I 2 STALL / SPIN / CRASH /BURN / DIE