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SandS

VIC
Australia


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Posted 02/02/2012, 6:44 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recon he will end up in a shoot out with Crean with Jules fading into the backwash.

bobajob


QLD
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Posted 02/02/2012, 7:08 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whats the chance labor loose the next election and the clowns leave the circus

SandS


VIC
Australia


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Posted 02/02/2012, 7:10 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's odds on !!!

log man

VIC
Australia


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Posted 02/02/2012, 8:55 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I reckon a return of Rudd is very unlikely. There are parliamentary members who are so anti Rudd they've apparently said privately that they would resign and bring down the government if he is re-elected leader

Mobydisc


NSW
Australia


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Posted 03/02/2012, 5:22 am        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does it matter? The federal parliamentary ALP will be lucky if they have enough MPs to field a shadow cabinet after the next election.

The ALP will be smashed by the Greens and the coalition. It will be similar to the last NSW state election.



FlySurfer



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Posted 03/02/2012, 9:25 am        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rudd is too good for the ALP. He tried to whip them in to shape but they were too stupid and just labelled him a non team player.

In an AFL game if you have a bunch of retards that don't even know what a ball is running around aimlessly, and 1 person who knows how to play scoring... he's not a team player.

Kevin is good for Australia, Juliar and the Buggy are an embarrassment... that Juliar in particular, the way it bobs it's head when talking, like it's a struggle to get the words (lies) out... or the poor victim of a stroke.

felixdcat


WA
Australia


1787 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 10:13 am        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bobajob said...

Whats the chance labor loose the next election and the clowns leave the circus



Edit

Whats the chance labor loose the next election and the clowns leave enters the circus?

pweedas


WA
Australia


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Posted 03/02/2012, 10:40 am        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's what I recon;

Lose vs Loose
A lot of people are mixing up lose and loose. In particular, a lot of people are writing loose when they really mean lose. Here are the definitions of the two words from my Penguin dictionary:

loose [lOOs] adj not fastened or pre-packed; not tied up or confined; able to move freely; not tight, not firmly fixed; not close-fitting; careless, inaccurate, vague; dissolute, immoral; not closely woven; flabby; (of bowels) inclined to diarrhoea; l. box stable or van in which an animal can move about; at a l. end uncertain what to do next; unoccupied ~ loose adv in a loose way; play fast and l. behave rashly or unscupulously ~ loose n release; on the l. free from restraint; on a spree; ~ loose v/t untie, undo; release from confinement or constraint, set free; detatch; fire (gun); shoot (arrow); (eccles) absolve.

lose (p/t and p/part lost) [lOOz] v/t and i no longer have; be deprived of by accident or misfortune; mislay, fail to find; fail to get or win; be too late for; be bereaved of; waste; be defeated or beaten; suffer loss, become worse off; fail to hear, see or understand; cause or allow to perish; (of clock or watch) go too slowly; (refl) miss the right path; become absorbed in; l. one's head become flustered, panic; l. one's temper grow angry; l. one's way fail to find the right path; l. out (US) be defeated after a struggle.

Examples:


This knot is too loose.
Please do not lose my book.
I had better not lose that file.

One way to remember the difference between the two words is to think that "lose has lost an 'o'".

You can look it up here; http://www.ross.net/notes/loose.shtml

Carantoc


NSW
Australia


1160 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 12:11 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Prime Minister said this morning that she isn't bothered by the constant media speculation and is getting on with the job of governing the nation. She said the caucus meeting later this week will discuss the first few parlimentary sittings of the next term and will not discuss leadership issues.

Funny how the last Prime Minister said exactly the same thing, just before he was the ex-Prime Minister ??

highnoon


VIC
Australia


602 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 12:58 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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FlySurfer said...

Rudd is too good for the ALP. He tried to whip them in to shape but they were too stupid and just labelled him a non team player.

In an AFL game if you have a bunch of retards that don't even know what a ball is running around aimlessly, and 1 person who knows how to play scoring... he's not a team player.

Kevin is good for Australia, Juliar and the Buggy are an embarrassment... that Juliar in particular, the way it bobs it's head when talking, like it's a struggle to get the words (lies) out... or the poor victim of a stroke.


K Dog


VIC
Australia


1157 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 1:20 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mobydisc said...

Does it matter? The federal parliamentary ALP will be lucky if they have enough MPs to field a shadow cabinet after the next election.

The ALP will be smashed by the Greens and the coalition. It will be similar to the last NSW state election.



Totes.

As they say, Governments don't win elections, governments lose elections

Please Please challenge Leadership Turnbull..... get in there before the next election is thrown!!!

Agree with flysurfer. +2

Mobydisc


NSW
Australia


4294 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 1:44 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure about Rudd. He won easily in 2007, campaigning really well but as PM I think he was more about show than action. He did the apology to Aborigines who were removed from their families and held that convention. He gave us all some money which was actually ours in the first place.

Rudd probably has a better chance of winning an election as PM than Gillard has. She lost her last bit of trustworthyness when she turned against the deal she made with Wilkie on the poker machines. Gillard has shown herself to be an opportunist and someone who really believes in something which she has not revealed. I think she is an idealist. As a result she believes the ends justify the means.

pweedas


WA
Australia


1520 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 2:31 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poor old Julia. You can't blame her really. To get into the drivers seat she was forced to hop into bed with a whole lot of mongrels that she probably wouldn't normally talk to, and then everybody expects her to produce some thoroughbreds.
The fact is, half the policies she is trying to bring in now, such as pre-commitments on pokie machines, carbon tax, etc, were not what she would have done had labour won government in their own right. She can't say she's being bullied into it because she doesn't want people to know the country is actually being run by a handful of greens and independents.

Tony would have done exactly the same thing. In fact he did try to but his sincere promises did not sound as sincere as Julias. Specially since he had said that if he said something but it wasn't in a written statement then it couldn't be relied on. That's got to inspire confidence doesn't it?

And no, I'm not a labour supporter and I will be happy to see them out but I have to call it as it is.

Pugwash


WA
Australia


1981 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 2:42 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pweedas said...

And no, I'm not a labour supporter and I will be happy to see them out but I have to call it as it is.


Here's what I recon:

Labor vs Labour
A lot of people are mixing up labor and labour. In particular, a lot of people are writing labour when they really mean labo. Here are the definitions of the two words from the interwebs dictionary:

Labour: noun - work - job - toil - task

Labor: noun - weak - lie - spoil - fail

Example:



kiteboy dave


QLD
Australia


885 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 3:32 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The ONLY person talking up Rudd's return is Abbott. It's his latest tactic, create internal division and hope for a change. Why? Coz

a/ He's still not in power despite betting his left nut he would be by now

b/ The average aussie still hates his guts even if they hate Julia more (or same).

His short term strategy hasn't worked and he's beginning to flounder now - as in he can continue with more of the same and probably win, but he's still going to be elected very grudgingly, no one will actually be happy about it. Libs would be better to overthrow him and be done with it, now his job is done.

ie he's an attacker, not a leader.

lotofwind


NSW
Australia


3467 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 3:40 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
pweedas said...

Here's what I recon;
Lose vs Loose
A lot of people are mixing up lose and loose. In particular, a lot of people are writing loose when they really mean lose. Here are the definitions of the two words from my Penguin dictionary:
loose [lOOs] adj not fastened or pre-packed; not tied up or confined; able to move freely; not tight, not firmly fixed; not close-fitting; careless, inaccurate, vague; dissolute, immoral; not closely woven; flabby; (of bowels) inclined to diarrhoea; l. box stable or van in which an animal can move about; at a l. end uncertain what to do next; unoccupied ~ loose adv in a loose way; play fast and l. behave rashly or unscupulously ~ loose n release; on the l. free from restraint; on a spree; ~ loose v/t untie, undo; release from confinement or constraint, set free; detatch; fire (gun); shoot (arrow); (eccles) absolve.
lose (p/t and p/part lost) [lOOz] v/t and i no longer have; be deprived of by accident or misfortune; mislay, fail to find; fail to get or win; be too late for; be bereaved of; waste; be defeated or beaten; suffer loss, become worse off; fail to hear, see or understand; cause or allow to perish; (of clock or watch) go too slowly; (refl) miss the right path; become absorbed in; l. one's head become flustered, panic; l. one's temper grow angry; l. one's way fail to find the right path; l. out (US) be defeated after a struggle.


^^^^^^Looser

Mr float


NSW
Australia


2711 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 3:57 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
slim, but don't write of KRudd(who might rise from the ashes ) Crean = no chance .Smit perhaps (a safer bet). Mr fixit might be the darkorse(Combet) A good newcastle boy with good labor pedigree

SandS


VIC
Australia


1777 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 4:45 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mr float said...

slim, but don't write of KRudd. Mr fixit might be the darkorse(Combet)


Is it a bird , is it a plane , no ! It,s superman !!!!!! Cleverly disguised as Clark Kent ( Combet)

GalahOnTheBay


NSW
Australia


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Posted 03/02/2012, 5:53 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bobajob said...

Whats the chance labor loose the next election and some other clowns run the circus and are no better


Fixed that for you

Mr float


NSW
Australia


2711 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 7:39 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pugwash said...

pweedas said...

And no, I'm not a labour supporter and I will be happy to see them out but I have to call it as it is.


Here's what I recon:

Labor vs Labour
A lot of people are mixing up labor and labour. In particular, a lot of people are writing labour when they really mean labo. Here are the definitions of the two words from the interwebs dictionary:

Labour: noun - work - job - toil - task

Labor: noun - weak - lie - spoil - fail

Example:






Aw c'mon ,semantics .In hindsight she prolly should had said "under any Labor Govt I le"ad " whenits in reality a rag tag 'Coalition of the willing that I leoid"

log man

VIC
Australia


1577 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 10:48 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I prefer the old school Labour.... and that's just the way that is. I've lived through lots of governments of both persuasions and if you want a government that has an agenda, drives it through the reps then bashes the senate then this is one of the best I've seen( apart from the Whitlam/Barnard hurricane). I don't know but, FFS haven't the conservative media been crapping on about "a leadership challenge: since about 1985. Come on ....bring it....... nothing, yeah, bull****!!

log man

VIC
Australia


1577 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 10:51 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pugwash said...

pweedas said...

And no, I'm not a labour supporter and I will be happy to see them out but I have to call it as it is.


Here's what I recon:

Labor vs Labour
A lot of people are mixing up labor and labour. In particular, a lot of people are writing labour when they really mean labo. Here are the definitions of the two words from the interwebs dictionary:

Labour: noun - work - job - toil - task

Labor: noun - weak - lie - spoil - fail

Example:





Groan... this is so dumb!
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BulldogPup


WA
Australia


3323 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 10:56 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no loggy , dumb is when you get fooled into manning poll stands for the ex-leader and soon a coup makes a joke of what was stood for originally .... fooled I say!

log man

VIC
Australia


1577 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 10:57 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mr float said...

slim, but don't write of KRudd(who might rise from the ashes ) Crean = no chance .Smit perhaps (a safer bet). Mr fixit might be the darkorse(Combet) A good newcastle boy with good labor pedigree


Yeah Floater, maybe I didn't make it clear. If Rudd is re elected as leader there are at least 2 Vicco reps that will resign...... So that means Labour will lose the numbers in the Reps, and a vote of no confidence will bring down the Gov. So Rudd has nowhere to go ...If he stands ,he's leader of the opposition. yeah?

log man

VIC
Australia


1577 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:17 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BulldogPup said...

no loggy , dumb is when you get fooled into manning poll stands for the ex-leader and soon a coup makes a joke of what was stood for originally .... fooled I say!


No mate, I work for Labour. So I work for the party. The party is what is importasnt not so much the leaders. Leaders come and go, some are great(Whitlam,Keating) others are good (Hawke), some are nutters(Latham), some keep the seat warm(beazley), and some are just plain good people(Gillard). But One things for sure the Party is the important thing, and if you think that the likes of Abbott, Hockey and those others are better,then go for it............. yeah I didn't think so. This isn't the best Labour Government I've seen but it's a labour government , and a labour government that has made significant social changes to Aus.(Carers legislation).....anyone? So no, not fooled.

log man

VIC
Australia


1577 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:19 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
log man said...

BulldogPup said...

no loggy , dumb is when you get fooled into manning poll stands for the ex-leader and soon a coup makes a joke of what was stood for originally .... fooled I say!


No mate, I work for Labour. So I work for the party. The party is what is importasnt not so much the leaders. Leaders come and go, some are great(Whitlam,Keating) others are good (Hawke), some are nutters(Latham), some keep the seat warm(beazley), and some are just plain good people(Gillard). But One things for sure the Party is the important thing, and if you think that the likes of Abbott, Hockey and those others are better,then go for it............. yeah I didn't think so. This isn't the best Labour Government I've seen but it's a labour government , and a labour government that has made significant social changes to Aus.(Carers legislation).....anyone? So no, not fooled.


Where's my frikken soapbox, sorry about that!

BulldogPup


WA
Australia


3323 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:27 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha - didn't take it as a soapy at all loggy , I'm a member and I do realise the whole is greater than the part,
What I find galling is the spiralling support for JG - it hasn't gone well.
As for big ears & his fat mate noddy - no going for that here don't worry!1!!!
No self-respecting union official (me) would do the "plank" walk - I'm ****ty about all the legwork we did for someone else , I would have done it for her but it's just a principle thing mate.

Pugwash


WA
Australia


1981 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:30 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
log man said...

Pugwash said...

pweedas said...

And no, I'm not a labour supporter and I will be happy to see them out but I have to call it as it is.


Here's what I recon:

Labor vs Labour
A lot of people are mixing up labor and labour. In particular, a lot of people are writing labour when they really mean labo. Here are the definitions of the two words from the interwebs dictionary:

Labour: noun - work - job - toil - task

Labor: noun - weak - lie - spoil - fail

Example:





Groan... this is so dumb!



CORRECT!

Am guessing you mean the vid, and the lie... and that woman

Pugwash


WA
Australia


1981 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:36 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
log man said...

BulldogPup said...

no loggy , dumb is when you get fooled into manning poll stands for the ex-leader and soon a coup makes a joke of what was stood for originally .... fooled I say!


No mate, I work for Labour. So I work for the party. The party is what is importasnt not so much the leaders. Leaders come and go, some are great(Whitlam,Keating) others are good (Hawke), some are nutters(Latham), some keep the seat warm(beazley), and some are just plain good people(Gillard). But One things for sure the Party is the important thing, and if you think that the likes of Abbott, Hockey and those others are better,then go for it............. yeah I didn't think so. This isn't the best Labour Government I've seen but it's a labour government , and a labour government that has made significant social changes to Aus.(Carers legislation).....anyone? So no, not fooled.


You work for Labor. Is that you Kevin? No surprises there really, the way you pimp them on here. Must feel good to tell the truth - unusual trait for Labor

Shame you can't spell Labor, as in Australian Labor...

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Pugwash


WA
Australia


1981 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:38 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BulldogPup said...

haha - didn't take it as a soapy at all loggy , I'm a member and I do realise the whole is greater than the part,
What I find galling is the spiralling support for JG - it hasn't gone well.
As for big ears & his fat mate noddy - no going for that here don't worry!1!!!
No self-respecting union official (me) would do the "plank" walk - I'm ****ty about all the legwork we did for someone else , I would have done it for her but it's just a principle thing mate.


Union official

BulldogPup


WA
Australia


3323 Posts

Posted 03/02/2012, 11:47 pm        Report  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Union official


hahaha - Puggy mate I'm proud to stick up for my fellow work colleagues , some of them can't or don't know how to defend themselves and of course some do.I don't get paid or receive "favours" for it -
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