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Posted 18/6/2012, 5:53 pm        Report
the idea is to deter sharks. seems like a good idea. u think it would work? and who's willing to test them out?
WA
500 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 5:55 pm        Report
WA
2064 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 6:12 pm        Report
Pros: Deters Sharks, looks cool. Cons: Appeals to Killer whales in mating season and Japanese with Harpoons. Named after a short, not very funny black american kid or a dictionary. Hmmm decisions decisions.
VIC
7333 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 8:12 pm        Report
One of the boys in the Longboard room arranged for McTavish to make this... But I think it has since been sold on... http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Surfing/Longboarding/
VIC
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Posted 18/6/2012, 8:14 pm        Report
They say we average 14 Orca sightings in Aus waters per year. 2 were spotted today at Skenes Creek, near Apollo Bay Vic, heading East, moving fast with a Humpback whale. Orcas gave up chase and headed West. I understand Orcas need 60 feet of water to hunt in, and whales know this... Sonar issue. This whale was in close and tight to shore... 50m from shore.
6657 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 8:16 pm        Report
The only thing that would bug me over here in WA would be the solar effects on them - they'd cook in the middle of our summers - otherwise they look sensational really , striking sticks
WA
1694 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 8:20 pm        Report
Simondo said...
I understand Orcas need 60 feet of water to hunt in, and whales know this...
WA
500 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 9:35 pm        Report
BulldogPup said...
The only thing that would bug me over here in WA would be the solar effects on them - they'd cook in the middle of our summers - otherwise they look sensational really , striking sticks
What if the black was only on the bottom? (I'm not sure if it's on top or not) U think it'd still cook?
WA
3697 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 9:39 pm        Report
tgladman, no shouldnt do, the Tabou are all black on bottom this year (2012 models) without any issues.
6657 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 9:45 pm        Report
tgladman said...
BulldogPup said...
The only thing that would bug me over here in WA would be the solar effects on them - they'd cook in the middle of our summers - otherwise they look sensational really , striking sticks
What if the black was only on the bottom? (I'm not sure if it's on top or not) U think it'd still cook?
I still wouldn't turn it upside down on the racks on the journey tho to be on the safe side and leave the b-bag open a bit for venting heat - I like them Edit: hey TG , be a pioneer and buy one , make sure you post some pics & give us a review mate
WA
1891 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 10:00 pm        Report
HOLY F%&#*ING SH#T did anyone notice this on their Felchbook page; "After air dropping into the last secret location, the aircraft circled the break to count a total of 17 Great Whites fishing around the reef." 17! SEVENTEEN!! SEVENPHUCKINGTEEN of these damn things feeding around one reef??? I'd always considered Whites to be fairly territorial, solitary creatures. Unless they're talking somewhere stupid like the Farralon Islands (where you'd no more dream of getting in the water than sticking your knob in a rabid pitbulls mouth) then maybe I'm getting ready to review my no kill philosophy. Jamie Chester's article in the latest Western Angler is a bit of an eye opener too, born at 1.5m and a 4.85m specimen being only seven years old. I have always though of Whites as rare, slow growing not terribly fecund creatures. Starting to think that maybe we should be listening to pro fisherman more than the so called "experts". Rare? Endangered? Hmmmmm?
6657 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 10:08 pm        Report
^^^ Was/is there any evidence of the Orca Board artwork theory being successful ?
WA
500 Posts
Posted 18/6/2012, 10:21 pm        Report
smicko said...
HOLY F%&#*ING SH#T did anyone notice this on their Felchbook page; "After air dropping into the last secret location, the aircraft circled the break to count a total of 17 Great Whites fishing around the reef." 17! SEVENTEEN!! SEVENPHUCKINGTEEN of these damn things feeding around one reef??? I'd always considered Whites to be fairly territorial, solitary creatures. Unless they're talking somewhere stupid like the Farralon Islands (where you'd no more dream of getting in the water than sticking your knob in a rabid pitbulls mouth) then maybe I'm getting ready to review my no kill philosophy. Jamie Chester's article in the latest Western Angler is a bit of an eye opener too, born at 1.5m and a 4.85m specimen being only seven years old. I have always though of Whites as rare, slow growing not terribly fecund creatures. Starting to think that maybe we should be listening to pro fisherman more than the so called "experts". Rare? Endangered? Hmmmmm?
Yeah that's nuts. I like how they still intend to surf there, they'll just paint their boards like killer whales and hopefully trick the sharks. wtf? Would def like one of these. Maybe next summer. And after last summer maybe they'll sell a few here too? I hope Colin has a plan....
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Posted 19/6/2012, 12:24 am        Report
We have been seeing odd currents and a lot of warm water last couple of years. I live at the very south of W.A. and we been catching all kinds of northern fish. Anyway, late last year, a bunch of tourists headed out on the local whale watching tours and saw something rare as. Watching a humpack and her calf, the lot were rather horrified when a group of around 6 orca's came from nowhere and began a gang attack. The mother humpback fought them off as best she could for quite some time, but she just couldnt take on 6 of them, and they eventually got the calf. But thats nature huh? First EVER sighting down here, divers were not keen on going in the water for a while.
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Posted 19/6/2012, 12:33 am        Report
^^^ Be interesting to see if there were any shark sightings at all during that occurrence - the Orcas would have been following the whale for a while and just waited for their moment - nature as you said , harsh & brutal but nature.
WA
4369 Posts
Posted 19/6/2012, 2:00 pm        Report
smicko said...
Jamie Chester's article in the latest Western Angler is a bit of an eye opener too, born at 1.5m and a 4.85m specimen being only seven years old. I have always though of Whites as rare, slow growing not terribly fecund creatures. Starting to think that maybe we should be listening to pro fisherman more than the so called "experts". Rare? Endangered? Hmmmmm?
Not sure were he got his facts from. Wikipedia says. Males reach maturity at 3.5–4.0 metres (11–13 ft) and females at 4.5–5.0 m (15–16 ft). Adults on average are 4–5.2 m (13–17.1 ft) long and have a mass of 680–1,100 kilograms (1,500–2,400 lb). Females are generally larger than males. It is widely accepted that the great white shark can reach 6.1 m (20 ft) in length and 1,900 kg (4,200 lb) in weight GW actually reach maturity at around 15 years of age. Also have a gestation period of about 11 months and a Female shark may only have 2 to 3 pups in a life time. Just cause its written in a mag doesn't make it right..
WA
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Posted 19/6/2012, 8:28 pm        Report
Being a marine biologist I daresay he didn't source his info from a website where anyone has editorial rights Why don't you send him an email and ask the question. Or perhaps you could read the article yourself, before you go shooting from the hip like you always do with this subject. My point above with them being born at 1.5m and a confirmed specimen of 4.85m being only 7 yrs old was to illustrate the fact that they grow a lot quicker than I had previously thought and would only need to survive for a few years before they are pretty much the top of the food chain, Orcas being their only natural predator. I reckon we need to get the Japs keen on Great White liver so they can do some "research" on them.
WA
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Posted 20/6/2012, 11:57 am        Report
smicko said...
Being a marine biologist I daresay he didn't source his info from a website where anyone has editorial rights Why don't you send him an email and ask the question. Or perhaps you could read the article yourself, before you go shooting from the hip like you always do with this subject. My point above with them being born at 1.5m and a confirmed specimen of 4.85m being only 7 yrs old was to illustrate the fact that they grow a lot quicker than I had previously thought and would only need to survive for a few years before they are pretty much the top of the food chain, Orcas being their only natural predator. I reckon we need to get the Japs keen on Great White liver so they can do some "research" on them.
Sorry Smicko not really shooting form the hip. Google it yourself if you need to but if Jamie is correct, than the all the others are wrong. Below is a another quote from Fascinating Facts about Great whites for KIDS. http://sharkfacts.hubpages.com/hub/Fascinating-Facts-About-Great-White-Sharks-for-Kids
It is unknown exactly at this time, but it is believed that great white sharks can live for 30 years or more. They do not start reproducing until they are about 14-15 years old, just like humans. It is possible that white sharks can live as long as us! Hopefully this is something we will learn in our lifetime, as more and more sharks are being tagged and observed by scientists.
I have done a heap of reading over many years on GW and no i don't have a marine Biology degree but that still doesn't make me wrong or "shooting from the hip" Oh and if you believe the Internet than the biggest threat to GW are actually human beings, that's why they are now on the Icon endangered list I will go and have a look at his article though thanks but i wasn't responding to his article, i was responding to your comment.
WA
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Posted 20/6/2012, 12:14 pm        Report
Sorry my last post talked more about age and maturity than size and age.
The Great White Shark female takes approximately 15 years to become sexually mature, and the male about 8 years. At this age the female will be around 5 meters long and the male around 4 meters long.
From http://www.whiteshark.co.za/warning.htm Your original quote that i feel was wrong was this
Smicko, I have always though of Whites as rare, slow growing not terribly fecund creatures.
I think you will find they actually are just what you originally thought, and as i said just because its in paper back doesn't make it correct
WA
1891 Posts
Posted 20/6/2012, 9:07 pm        Report
Ohhh **** me Rodney anything that is born at 1.5m, eats it's siblings in utero to get to that size and can reach 2.5m by the end of it's second year is NOT SLOW GROWING. It's a god damned machine!!! I'm not advocating killing them I'm just saying that they don't seem to be quite as vulnerable as I had thought. And 17 feeding around one reef is just nuts!! How big is the reef? Where is the reef? You know I thought maybe 1 or 2 of 'em around Rotto but maybe they are a far more social creature than has been intimated, maybe there's 10 or 20 or 30 that live around Rotto??? As far as fecundity goes, it is believed that females mature at about 15yrs and bear anywhere between 1 and 15ish pups, usually every second year. Obviously if 15 pups were to be born, they'd be a damn sight smaller than the 1.5m quoted, but you'd have to lay odds on a similar number of juveniles reaching adulthood as in a small litter. Yes they may only have 2-3 pups in a lifetime but they might have a fkn hundred too. No one knows, that's the trouble. Far more research is needed on the subject. I tried taking pics of the relevant article to post here but the flash ****ed them. Do yourself a favour and spend the $8.50 and grab a copy for a read, it's interesting. I've always had a staunch no kill philosphy on this subject but this article in particular has got me thinking twice. There's all this hoohaa about how there's more chance of being struck by lightning, or a falling coconut or chopping your knob off in your zipper and bleeding to death etc etc But one thing I can tell you is that I have personally known two of the victims of fatal White attacks in WA since 2005. The one thing they had in common is that they both spent a lot of time in the water.
VIC
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Posted 21/6/2012, 12:54 pm        Report
Simondo said...
They say we average 14 Orca sightings in Aus waters per year. 2 were spotted today at Skenes Creek, near Apollo Bay Vic, heading East, moving fast with a Humpback whale. Orcas gave up chase and headed West. I understand Orcas need 60 feet of water to hunt in, and whales know this... Sonar issue. This whale was in close and tight to shore... 50m from shore.
they are quite often spotted here down the bottom of SA as well, have seen them of port macdonnel, we are very close to the shelf only 30 k's at cape douglas.
WA
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Posted 21/6/2012, 5:49 pm        Report
Smicko which month mag is the article in. I did go for a look but couldn't find it? I have spent many years reading and following sharks in particular GW. All i can say is wish you were right
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Posted 21/6/2012, 9:46 pm        Report
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