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Created by alverstone > 9 months ago, 10 Jan 2017
alverstone
WA, 529 posts
10 Jan 2017 8:23AM
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This is only relevant to anyone who has a blue-orange-yellow coloured 2016 Cabrinha FX. If you have, have the colours, and in particular the yellow, faded radically compared to other kites of the same colour combo and age you have seen? I got mine secondhand last month, and only yesterday compared it to one of the same age on the beach. They looked like two different kites. It could be just a batch of lighter-dyed material, or not ....

Subculture
443 posts
10 Jan 2017 8:57AM
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Underoath
QLD, 2429 posts
10 Jan 2017 11:07AM
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Almost up there with the time, my iPhone cable couldn't reach my bedside table.


alverstone
WA, 529 posts
10 Jan 2017 10:15AM
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The culture of smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.

I'd asked the question about fading, and to kiters on a specialist website about kiting, no less, because the fading was enough to potentially indicate the kite was older than claimed, or that there could be a quality control issue at Carbrinha.

We spend so much on our sport we have a right to question the products we buy, and ask other kiters, with respect, for their information.


Peahi
VIC, 1470 posts
10 Jan 2017 2:29PM
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Scientific experiment:

1. Wait until everyone has forgotten about this (should not be too long)
2. Create a new username
3. Re-post, changing the brand to one of ozone, north or any other (maybe not switch)
4. See if response changes, if not then
5. Repeat all steps with new username in step 2 and different brand in step 3

Or grow a skin

BrisKites
QLD, 1286 posts
10 Jan 2017 2:47PM
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Different coloured cloth will fade at different rates due to the different chemical structure of the pigments. It can also change the effective life span of the cloth.

Personally if I was buying a kite I wanted to own for more than 2 seasons I would only ever buy a kite with cloth made by these guys -www.teijin.com/products/advanced-fibers/

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
10 Jan 2017 1:17PM
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alverstone said...
The culture of smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.

I'd asked the question about fading, and to kiters on a specialist website about kiting, no less, because the fading was enough to potentially indicate the kite was older than claimed, or that there could be a quality control issue at Carbrinha.

We spend so much on our sport we have a right to question the products we buy, and ask other kiters, with respect, for their information.





Faded jeans are quite hipster

littlewing
QLD, 151 posts
10 Jan 2017 4:00PM
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i noticed the other day kids basketball hoop net is made from the same string/nylon/whatever died blue, white and red. The white centre became so brittle the bottom of the net fell off. I pulled all the netting the white disintegrates and falls apart but the blue and red are still strong and wont pull apart. I wonder if white/yellow/lighter colouse absorbs more uv and wears quicker and if this goes for kites?

Maybe a dark canopy would be the longest lasting

alverstone
WA, 529 posts
10 Jan 2017 2:10PM
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Thanks, Littlewing and Briskites. Some sensible information at last.

Underoath
QLD, 2429 posts
10 Jan 2017 4:15PM
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alverstone said..

smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.



BatKiter
WA, 209 posts
10 Jan 2017 2:27PM
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Underoath said..

alverstone said..

smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.






How did Alverstone got red thumbs??? I thought we were in a free red thumb forum....

bjw
NSW, 3584 posts
10 Jan 2017 6:11PM
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cauncy said...
alverstone said...
The culture of smart-arsed little runts.



Faded jeans are quite hipster


I acid wash my Qites and put intentional rips in them for extra sun tanning. It's so 2018.

Absolutbeginer
QLD, 105 posts
10 Jan 2017 7:36PM
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It may have seen more sun more than the other kites.
Could very well have been left sitting setup in the sun on the beach all day.

Chris_M
2129 posts
10 Jan 2017 5:41PM
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What? We can (some of us) red thumb?


SibboV1
368 posts
10 Jan 2017 5:53PM
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alverstone said..
They looked like two different kites.


Mate, you could have sold yours as a special limited edition, for big bucks....pity everyone now knows it's just an old faded, farked kite.

azza2u
QLD, 91 posts
10 Jan 2017 8:59PM
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Fading differences are nothing new. My then new 2009 Switchblade (orange) faded twice as fast as another mates even though we were both using them about the same amount. Didn't seem to hurt it and only just replaced it with a new blue/yellow 2017 one in November so will be interesting to see if that fades more.

bjw
NSW, 3584 posts
11 Jan 2017 5:27PM
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Chris_M said...
What? We can (some of us) red thumb?






I cant red thumb either. Some people have special powers. The red thumb is mightier than the sword.

alverstone
WA, 529 posts
12 Jan 2017 1:24PM
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Underoath said..


alverstone said..

smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.








Underoath said..



alverstone said..

smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.








EternalNoob said..



Underoath said..



alverstone said..

smart-arsed little runts who think their opinions are facts is alive and well on Seabreeze.









How did Alverstone got red thumbs??? I thought we were in a free red thumb forum....



"Like".

Now, as I was saying, the trouble with people today is .... ;).

wayne22
QLD, 39 posts
12 Jan 2017 7:43PM
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Only go on seebreeze if u wanna get hammered by everyone alvy

Lambie
QLD, 738 posts
12 Jan 2017 8:14PM
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A plastics expert I once knew made the comment that the darker the plastic colour the move UV stabilisation they could get into the item - maybe this applies to fabric colours as well. This sounds counterintuitave but apparently black is the MOST uv resistant colour ?? go figure and of course that then means white is the least and may account for the basket ball net experience shared above. Of course if no UV stabilising stuff (technical hey)is included with the pigments then it wont resist UV very well at all ;-(
Maybe the yellow fabric of the cabrinha kite that is fading badly was made on a Monday morning/ Friday arvo ?? If its faded that fast Id say its a ticking time bomb

kernal
WA, 541 posts
12 Jan 2017 6:19PM
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fabric colours? plastic colours? kites are made from polyester. so both?

but colour of your polyester has not mattered as far as longevity for decades now.

the armys still not making black parachutes but they have no reason not to now.

RosieKB
VIC, 240 posts
12 Jan 2017 10:07PM
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In printing red based colours generally fade the quickest - so a red/orange kite is going to look faded/older quicker than say a blue one :)

Here is the Q and A for it though: www.reference.com/science/color-fades-fastest-9b1fdaf25522e5a8#

So if you plan on leaving your kite sitting in the sun red isn't the kite colour for you.

touch107fm
WA, 77 posts
12 Jan 2017 7:59PM
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I have the exact same model / year / colour and it's all good.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
13 Jan 2017 3:33AM
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Wow, guy asks a serious question and gets hammered.
Dont worry mate, some of us will give a proper answer to your question.

Maybe the kite was originally from NSW , they have daylight savings and all that extra sunshine might have faded it quicker, like their curtains.

alverstone
WA, 529 posts
13 Jan 2017 8:11AM
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touch107fm said..
I have the exact same model / year / colour and it's all good.


Thanks - which is exactly why I asked the question.

alverstone
WA, 529 posts
13 Jan 2017 8:20AM
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lotofwind said..
Wow, guy asks a serious question and gets hammered.
Dont worry mate, some of us will give a proper answer to your question.

Maybe the kite was originally from NSW , they have daylight savings and all that extra sunshine might have faded it quicker, like their curtains.


"Like".

No it's a (W)hinging (A)lways kite, so it could have seen a lot of sun compared to those ungrateful GST-stealing communists, with their new-fangled ideas, like shoes, east of Ceduna .

But I think it's just quality control at the fabric maker, as other kites the same age on the beach that dayget used just as much, and still had bright yellows.

I think a letter to Cabrinha is on the cards, as a polite suggestion from a long-time customer.

alverstone
WA, 529 posts
13 Jan 2017 8:22AM
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Lambie said..
A plastics expert I once knew made the comment that the darker the plastic colour the move UV stabilisation they could get into the item - maybe this applies to fabric colours as well. This sounds counterintuitave but apparently black is the MOST uv resistant colour ?? go figure and of course that then means white is the least and may account for the basket ball net experience shared above. Of course if no UV stabilising stuff (technical hey)is included with the pigments then it wont resist UV very well at all ;-(
Maybe the yellow fabric of the cabrinha kite that is fading badly was made on a Monday morning/ Friday arvo ?? If its faded that fast Id say its a ticking time bomb


Thanks. That makes sense.

(Good board in your pic, BTW. I have the slightly older model with the rounded tail.)

Gfly
165 posts
16 Jan 2017 6:18PM
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This is what I feel about my wife when I put her next to a 14 year old

Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
16 Jan 2017 6:40PM
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Gfly said..
This is what I feel about my wife when I put her next to a 14 year old


What did you just say Rolf?



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