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Created by huddy > 9 months ago, 8 Mar 2011
huddy
QLD, 85 posts
8 Mar 2011 11:15PM
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ok so im thinking of having ago at making my own board.
just for something to do when there isn't much wind.

im thinking of making my first one out of plywood.

anyone got any hints or tips to make the trial and error stage abit shorter?

Cheers huddy

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
9 Mar 2011 12:28AM
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huddy said...

ok so im thinking of having ago at making my own board.
just for something to do when there isn't much wind.

im thinking of making my first one out of plywood.

anyone got any hints or tips to make the trial and error stage abit shorter?

Cheers huddy


Do a google search, so much info out there.

I looked into it as I do alot of wood work but from what I have read getting the flex right will take a few go's.

ApatheticEnd
WA, 995 posts
8 Mar 2011 9:43PM
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Maybe try making a skate first. It's the most simple type of board and there is loads of info from other peoples attempts/sucesses on kitescoop.

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
9 Mar 2011 12:16AM
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huddy said...

ok so im thinking of having ago at making my own board.
just for something to do when there isn't much wind.

im thinking of making my first one out of plywood.

anyone got any hints or tips to make the trial and error stage abit shorter?

Cheers huddy


You are the bomb huddy haha
Talk to Mario on the beach- guy that never rides a bigger kite than 9m
He has been making custom boards for a long time and they are bloody awesome.

You missed out on the perfect day in Pallarenda. I reckon you start thinking about boards when there is no wind.

see ya and hang loose
.

suface2air
QLD, 701 posts
9 Mar 2011 9:13AM
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Yer i was thinking the same thing . If ya do let us know how you got on with some pics. there is always tophat's video with a piece of wood check it out in video area .

Genetrix
SA, 236 posts
9 Mar 2011 10:20AM
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Hey Huddy,
I know all about making ply and balsa boards, what type of board you thinking of making? twintip, speed, surf ?
I can send you a pm with some details if you like.
cheers Tim

craggers
WA, 475 posts
9 Mar 2011 8:16AM
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all i suggest is grab the first 'near enough' timber you can see, remove the hinges and handle, and the lock if its exterior, chuck it in and jump on.
oh, and get someone on camera to share it with the rest of us.

Prawnhead
NSW, 1317 posts
9 Mar 2011 11:26AM
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kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
9 Mar 2011 7:59PM
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Ok about to do the same. 2x 6mm marine ply. Laminated together with epoxy glue on a rocker table. I will try to get about 25mm rocker at the ends flat between the straps. Single concave sanded to about 3mm. I will see how heavy It is before thinking about glassing it. Otherwise will use marine boat varnish. + snowboard inserts for straps and handle.

huddy
QLD, 85 posts
13 Mar 2011 7:29PM
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Genetrix said
Hey Huddy,
I know all about making ply and balsa boards, what type of board you thinking of making? twintip, speed, surf ?
I can send you a pm with some details if you like.
cheers Tim

hey tim i was thinking of making a tiwntip first then later on down the track maybe making a surfboard as well (but i think ill see how the tt goes first)
yer if u could pm me some details that would be great.

Cheers huddy


INTHELOOP said

Talk to Mario on the beach- guy that never rides a bigger kite than 9m
He has been making custom boards for a long time and they are bloody awesome.

You missed out on the perfect day in Pallarenda. I reckon you start thinking about boards when there is no wind.


hey marv
yer i was thinking of having a yarn to him. ive seen a couple of his home made ones sitting on the beach. they look pretty sweet

yer i no haha. im still hanging out to get my new kite sick of patching that f***ing 14m haha

cheers bro catch u down palla.

P.S. anyone mind sharing how to put wat someone said in the yellow box thing sick of retyping everything. haha

ApatheticEnd
WA, 995 posts
13 Mar 2011 6:39PM
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huddy said...

Genetrix said
Hey Huddy,
I know all about making ply and balsa boards, what type of board you thinking of making? twintip, speed, surf ?
I can send you a pm with some details if you like.
cheers Tim

hey tim i was thinking of making a tiwntip first then later on down the track maybe making a surfboard as well (but i think ill see how the tt goes first)
yer if u could pm me some details that would be great.

Cheers huddy


INTHELOOP said

Talk to Mario on the beach- guy that never rides a bigger kite than 9m
He has been making custom boards for a long time and they are bloody awesome.

You missed out on the perfect day in Pallarenda. I reckon you start thinking about boards when there is no wind.


hey marv
yer i was thinking of having a yarn to him. ive seen a couple of his home made ones sitting on the beach. they look pretty sweet

yer i no haha. im still hanging out to get my new kite sick of patching that f***ing 14m haha

cheers bro catch u down palla.

P.S. anyone mind sharing how to put wat someone said in the yellow box thing sick of retyping everything. haha


Press "Quote" botton on their post.

AquaPlow
QLD, 1050 posts
13 Mar 2011 9:07PM
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When I was learning 2003-ish some of the crew where vaccuum bagging really nice looking TT's - with the trend over the last few years to really flexible and thin tips - the materials look to have moved on from surf board and wood style.

Having said that the youngster wanted a wake skate for B'day ... but since the shipment was delayed his fancy moved on - but the idea didn't.

Here are the results... approx $29.00 each.

- Mark 1 the small one.

- Mark 2 slightly bigger.

- Mark 2..

Read in one of the posts above - 'a rocker table' - will have to investigate that!!
I got the steam iron and some table clothes and warped them over some wood with clamped weights at each end - chinese laundry style

Next trick is likley a large race style board as the shape appears to be simpler than the ultra thin multi-shaped TT's.

Great fun - kid loved working on it.

Cheers

AP

TOAD
NSW, 305 posts
13 Mar 2011 10:21PM
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huddy
QLD, 85 posts
13 Mar 2011 10:32PM
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ApatheticEnd said...

huddy said...

Genetrix said
Hey Huddy,
I know all about making ply and balsa boards, what type of board you thinking of making? twintip, speed, surf ?
I can send you a pm with some details if you like.
cheers Tim

hey tim i was thinking of making a tiwntip first then later on down the track maybe making a surfboard as well (but i think ill see how the tt goes first)
yer if u could pm me some details that would be great.

Cheers huddy


INTHELOOP said

Talk to Mario on the beach- guy that never rides a bigger kite than 9m
He has been making custom boards for a long time and they are bloody awesome.

You missed out on the perfect day in Pallarenda. I reckon you start thinking about boards when there is no wind.


hey marv
yer i was thinking of having a yarn to him. ive seen a couple of his home made ones sitting on the beach. they look pretty sweet

yer i no haha. im still hanging out to get my new kite sick of patching that f***ing 14m haha

cheers bro catch u down palla.

P.S. anyone mind sharing how to put wat someone said in the yellow box thing sick of retyping everything. haha


Press "Quote" botton on their post.


how did i not see that haha thanks bro

huddy
QLD, 85 posts
13 Mar 2011 10:37PM
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TOAD said...






u got some nice looking boards there bro im a carpenter so i love the wood look.

what did u make your foot straps out of if u dont mind me asking

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
13 Mar 2011 11:41PM
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^^^ toad, pretty impressive quiver.
Do you have any tips on plywood construction. I have used 2x7mm ply, and currently laminated with epoxy glue, waiting for the rocker to set. What did you use for strap inserts, and final coats.

Ta

kr

mofo
QLD, 91 posts
13 Mar 2011 10:43PM
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My next board....

huddy
QLD, 85 posts
13 Mar 2011 10:53PM
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kyteryder said...

^^^ toad, pretty impressive quiver.
Do you have any tips on plywood construction. I have used 2x7mm ply, and currently laminated with epoxy glue, waiting for the rocker to set. What did you use for strap inserts, and final coats.

Ta

kr


hey kyteryder i know this wasnt directed at me but i think some of thise Tee Nuts could be a good idea.

Stainless-steel Tee Nuts to attach footstraps to board:
Drill a hole to fit the barrel, then hammer in the locking prongs until the tee nut is flush with the bottom surface of your board. they should be plenty strong. Stronger than a human ankle anyway.




im going to go investergate them this week see if i can get some from a local suppiler

cheers huddy

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
14 Mar 2011 12:02AM
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huddy said...

kyteryder said...

^^^ toad, pretty impressive quiver.
Do you have any tips on plywood construction. I have used 2x7mm ply, and currently laminated with epoxy glue, waiting for the rocker to set. What did you use for strap inserts, and final coats.

Ta

kr


hey kyteryder i know this wasnt directed at me but i think some of thise Tee Nuts could be a good idea.

Stainless-steel Tee Nuts to attach footstraps to board:
Drill a hole to fit the barrel, then hammer in the locking prongs until the tee nut is flush with the bottom surface of your board. they should be plenty strong. Stronger than a human ankle anyway.




im going to go investergate them this week see if i can get some from a local suppiler

cheers huddy



We supply them to a local guy who builds his own TT boards here in WA. Should be able to get them at any good local fastener supplier (nuts and bolts) of a specialist marine store.

S/S ones aren't cheap but worth it for the ease of use.

Oh and usually only available in 1/4 imperial thread, not metric!!

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
14 Mar 2011 12:11AM
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^^ thanks huddy. I have been looking for t nuts stainless steel, but have to go to a specialist fasteners supplier. I thought there maybe something better available. In the USA they have snowboarding inserts, which seem really good, as they have a plastic cap which prevents the epoxy getting in the threads when building the board.

There is heaps of great info on kite forum

Link below
kiteforum.com/viewforum.php?f=107


KR

TOAD
NSW, 305 posts
14 Mar 2011 12:29PM
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Sounds like you guys are on the right track . I just experimented with different stuff I could scroung up . went to a few of the shops and looked through there bargain boxes .You can pick up cheap fins and stuff . I've actually broken a couple of those boards since ,but still have a couple left . Good fun to have a blast on . Some worked well in the right conditions . Some didn't work too well .. I tried to make some staps from webbing and rubber from Clark Rubber ...


Green Cherub
WA, 296 posts
14 Mar 2011 11:58AM
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mofo said...



My next board....


My new hero

myusernam
QLD, 6084 posts
14 Mar 2011 3:09PM
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Green Cherub said...

mofo said...

My next board....


My new hero


Slave would be happy. no death leash! I guess if he stacks it and he's unhooked he just swims for his kite?

Skid
QLD, 1499 posts
15 Mar 2011 1:27AM
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Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
15 Mar 2011 1:58AM
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huddy said...

kyteryder said...

^^^ toad, pretty impressive quiver.
Do you have any tips on plywood construction. I have used 2x7mm ply, and currently laminated with epoxy glue, waiting for the rocker to set. What did you use for strap inserts, and final coats.

Ta

kr


hey kyteryder i know this wasnt directed at me but i think some of thise Tee Nuts could be a good idea.

Stainless-steel Tee Nuts to attach footstraps to board:
Drill a hole to fit the barrel, then hammer in the locking prongs until the tee nut is flush with the bottom surface of your board. they should be plenty strong. Stronger than a human ankle anyway.




im going to go investergate them this week see if i can get some from a local suppiler

cheers huddy



after pulling a few inserts out of production boards we ended up using those stainless T nuts, just drilled through the bottom, then used one of those wide bladed drill bits (forgot the name) to thin the core out just a bit so that (A)the insert gets a bit closer to the top deck so you dont need mammoth screws and (B) so that it's flush at the bottom after filling it with resin. these end up holding up stronger than most production boards inserts did.

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:09AM
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Huddy,

I have just taken my clamps off board off the whilst setting the rocker, I have read that the plywood will spring back about 30-40%. I set my rocker at about 60mm at the ends, and flat in the middle. The rocker came out tonight at about 40mm, which i am happy with, which is about 33%. so definately allow the 30-40% spring back. Just finished marking out all inserts and have temporarily screwed the fins on, now starting to look like a kiteboard.

Good luck with your progress.

Kr

suface2air
QLD, 701 posts
16 Mar 2011 9:30AM
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kytrider . Any chance of some pics of it during and the finsh . Looks like winter is going to be crap here too good project to do .
What timber and ect too would be helpfull
Thanks in advance

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:04PM
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Surface2air,

Here are some pics. I cheated on my first attempt, and not used a rocker table. The 3 bags of cement were used to help flatten out the rocker under the footstraps.
I haven't taken any photos yet of the board without the clamps, but am pretty stoke how it is turning out. I will update as the board progresses.




KR

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:09PM
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The timber is 7mm CD Grade plywood from Bunnies, which i was stoked they only charged me $19 for x 2400x1200 sheet instead of $30. CD Grade isn't the best grade to use, but i had time on the weekend to make a start, and was the only thing i could find on Friday / Sat morning. Marine Ply would be the best pick, then AA Grade ply. I will be sealing my board with marine varnish 4 x coats, which will give it a good water tight seal.

KR

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:32PM
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kyteryder said...

The timber is 7mm CD Grade plywood from Bunnies, which i was stoked they only charged me $19 for x 2400x1200 sheet instead of $30. CD Grade isn't the best grade to use, but i had time on the weekend to make a start, and was the only thing i could find on Friday / Sat morning. Marine Ply would be the best pick, then AA Grade ply. I will be sealing my board with marine varnish 4 x coats, which will give it a good water tight seal.

KR


Varnish is not a sealer in a rough marine environment. It is fine on something like a motor yacht hand rail but on a board if it gets chipped it will come off easily and expose raw ply to the ocean which will suck in water like a sponge.

Use an dilluted epoxy sealer first like Bote-Cote TPRDA mix, International Everdure etc. first which will saturate your ply. Two coats of that (first thinner than the second) then put varnish over the top to stop UV rays attacking the epoxy and to get a nicer finish.
If you use the Bote-Cote with non-yellowing hardener it will be fine in the sun and not need varnish at all.

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:46PM
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Rumblefish

Thanks for the info, i may have to relook at the varnish idea, though am concerned on adding a lot of weight with epoxy, which was my first choice. Do you think the application of varnish or epoxy would add the same weight? I considered varnish, as the board spends most of its life in the boot of my car, with about 3 days of use per week at about 3 hours a time, and thought that it wasnt as harsh as the under carriage of a boat, but happy to apply epoxy if it doesnt weigh it down too much. I have picked up a few handmade boards in the past, and some of them have been really heavy.

Look forward to your advice.

KR



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