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Created by sorse > 9 months ago, 2 Feb 2012
terminal
1421 posts
13 Feb 2012 10:04PM
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Some nice tacks by 13 year old Olly.



Top level riding by Adam Koch

sorse
NSW, 509 posts
14 Feb 2012 11:51PM
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Cool, new vid's and kids ripping on raceboards, future maybe but us old guys have time up our sleeves :)

Col great to hear you've been on it, should come and have a hit with us on the lake to dial in some of the tacks, gybes etc.
We have been out last two days swapping gear and helping each other to learn.
plus helping to get in when wind is so light even a 19m falls out of the sky..

Footage to come..

ps to date 3 duck tacks done. but I won't lay claim to doing them untill I can do three in a row.. Other wise it's just luck..

Nice to see we have pic's now of nearly all the main brands, I think we are missing Cabrinha? Does Ozone do a board?
What a pic of the Alex? or Mike's boat shed?

jordangirdis
NSW, 178 posts
15 Feb 2012 12:41AM
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I put the first layer of epoxy on my board today. Ill start on the fins tomorrow :)

sorse
NSW, 509 posts
15 Feb 2012 2:45PM
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Have you got photo's ??

KIT33R
NSW, 1714 posts
15 Feb 2012 4:05PM
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jordangirdis said...

I put the first layer of epoxy on my board today. Ill start on the fins tomorrow :)


Wow. That was quick! Photos?

JayP
QLD, 249 posts
15 Feb 2012 5:27PM
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full certified board list is here, good place to start when comparing spec on each race board - some big differences in weight.

internationalkiteboarding.org/images/documents/etc/registered%20boards.pdf

wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
15 Feb 2012 8:47PM
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sorse said...


Col great to hear you've been on it, should come and have a hit with us on the lake to dial in some of the tacks, gybes etc.


Hey Col

They have these new things call mobile phones

If you get one we can do this thing called a "Text" and inform you of when the wind is on and where we are going.

If not perhaps you could look into supplying us pigeons so we can let you know whats doin

But if you get one of the latest mobiles they are really smart, so you can access seabreeze.com.au using the phone and see what the wind is doing yourself

wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
15 Feb 2012 8:57PM
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KIT33R said...

jordangirdis said...

I put the first layer of epoxy on my board today. Ill start on the fins tomorrow :)


Wow. That was quick! Photos?


I guess he is not worried about photos, will just show it off this Saturday

ezza
NSW, 561 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:18PM
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Ric, you so ahead of the times.
Mitch & I gonna join in the raceboy/girl fun in Botany when i'm down there. Just need a light wind kite, and maybe a Sector........... my birthday is coming up, now just need to convince my olds that $2000 is a fair price to pay for their only daughter's 30th birthday!!!

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:35PM
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How do you size race boards? For example, North only has one size race board but cabrinha have 4?

jordangirdis
NSW, 178 posts
16 Feb 2012 12:33AM
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Its very thick for light airs, and here is a sneak peak after the first epoxy/glass.

measurements are 1900x700



Oris
WA, 127 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:37PM
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jordangirdis said...

Its very thick for light airs, and here is a sneak peak after the first epoxy/glass.

measurements are 1900x700






This thread is to long, so coming in cold.

What is this.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
15 Feb 2012 10:44PM
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Oris said...

What is this.




i would say that is a boat

terminal
1421 posts
16 Feb 2012 2:00AM
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Interesting.

Thinking just inside the box?

terminal
1421 posts
16 Feb 2012 3:37AM
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Saffer said...

How do you size race boards? For example, North only has one size race board but cabrinha have 4?


According to Alex Aguera, the latest 70 cm boards from the top designers are so easy to sail that almost everyone can use the 70 cm board, and both of Alex's daughters always use his 2012 LE 70 cm. Steph Bridge used the 70cm North board to win races at last years World Championships in overhead waves and winds gusting over 30 knots.

There apparently is a 59cm board being registered by North for 2012 though, so it will be interesting to see if it ever gets used.

sorse
NSW, 509 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:05AM
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Most companies have a narrower four fin board as well as the three fin wider full tilt race board.
When people say they are getting easier to sail I think they are getting used to riding them.

I still believe you not only need to be able to ride the wide boards but to get the most out of them have very good control of both board and kite combination,
I have some more footage going up shortly of our last play sessiion on the lake in 6 knts gusting to 12 knts, on 16m and 19m kites on both the vector and the 2011 north. you'll see a few crashes and how hard to get going the board can be..'

Essa, Vector sells for $1199.00 so much cheaper then the bigger boards, when are you moving down and we will get you out demoing the boards so you can compare them..

Also will have the New north 2012 in march to compare it as well.

Jordan I love it looks so sick and futuristic, Can't wait to see you in action on it, do you have fins??
I have two sets if you have a tuttle base in the board, moght be able to borrow a set for racews, if we get breeze.

Cheers Dave

jordangirdis
NSW, 178 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:11AM
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Thanks Dave, But Ill be building my own fins as well. Im thinking of making a 40cm set to start off with? That Tuttle system is quite hard to manufacture into a board, so Im going to use my own system I used to use on radio control yachts (cool right). Wont be ready for quite a while still, but Ill see you on Saturday with the 2010 Underground. And a quick plug for Kite power, awesome repair job guys on my 14m, thanks!

JayP
QLD, 249 posts
16 Feb 2012 9:18AM
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There apparently is a 59cm board being registered by North for 2012


if you check my link above you will see its already approved.

as for width choice.... good question is there solid reason to go for a narrower board? (aside from weight of rider)

I have a sector 52, chose that mostly because i live in a rather windy place and was not looking to get absolute bottom end, also i kite over shallow lagoons so the shorter fins on the 52 were necessary.

sorse
NSW, 509 posts
16 Feb 2012 11:55AM
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Narrower board is faster downwind and on long reaches but not as fast upwind.
So if you have a course which has less upwind leg and more down wind or cross wind, will be quicker on the narrower board.
The wider boards are for hammering upwind and driving off the larger fins..


Here is that little vid..


dusta
WA, 2940 posts
16 Feb 2012 10:34AM
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good to see so much discussion on this . Course racing has really interested me , now to perfect duck tacks

AGK
NSW, 139 posts
16 Feb 2012 7:39PM
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Took out daves north ltd and had a blast today. Had 14-17 and was using a 12mtr rebel. Finally got comfortable on the rail. Made alot of difference having stable wind. Not getting close to the duck tack but having fun trying. Ric was killing the tacks on the underground. Looks like we will have some killer racing lakeside once the new boards arrive.

wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
17 Feb 2012 12:39AM
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It's a sector 60

There were a couple of moths out today after you left, so couldnt resist seeing how the two compare.

Using the sector 60 and the 14 rally I was quite surprised that although they had me at outright pointing by a couple of degrees, once they came off the breeze a little to my angle they didnt really get away at all
One of the guys kept turning around to see me still hanging in beside him, the last look was a big smile as he new I was on for young (thats him) and old (thats me)

They have some awsum stacks like we do

Actually looking forward to having a race with other fast sail craft around a coarse on the lake once I get tacking better and can complete a jyb

wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
17 Feb 2012 12:43AM
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ezza said...

Ric, you so ahead of the times.
Mitch & I gonna join in the raceboy/girl fun in Botany when i'm down there. Just need a light wind kite, and maybe a Sector........... my birthday is coming up, now just need to convince my olds that $2000 is a fair price to pay for their only daughter's 30th birthday!!!


Yep as dave said they are not that expensive.

I will have a spare seat down to sydney this saturday if the racing is on
Last race for the season this Saturday
Anybody from newy interested?
If it's a southerly I will probly leave about 9am and get some time on the water down there.

I think kitepower will have the transporter for demo again to, so will give that a go

ezza
NSW, 561 posts
17 Feb 2012 10:01PM
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wdric said...

ezza said...

Ric, you so ahead of the times.
Mitch & I gonna join in the raceboy/girl fun in Botany when i'm down there. Just need a light wind kite, and maybe a Sector........... my birthday is coming up, now just need to convince my olds that $2000 is a fair price to pay for their only daughter's 30th birthday!!!


Yep as dave said they are not that expensive.

I will have a spare seat down to sydney this saturday if the racing is on
Last race for the season this Saturday
Anybody from newy interested?
If it's a southerly I will probly leave about 9am and get some time on the water down there.

I think kitepower will have the transporter for demo again to, so will give that a go


seriously??? last race this saturday?! I get down there next Saturday. That is farked. Lets start a Newy winter race series.

wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
17 Feb 2012 11:08PM
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JayP said...


September - king of the harbour - hobbies Vs windsurfers Vs kites 8th or 22nd ela beach


What are the chances of this being on the 8th sept
Would luv to compete in this.
When is this decided, would book my flights to include if I know

I am on one of in the loops trips
27 Aug 2012
05 Sep 2012 9 nights
from: Misima
to: Misima

Is Upu still getting around on a H16?

jordangirdis
NSW, 178 posts
18 Feb 2012 12:56AM
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ezza said...

wdric said...

ezza said...

Ric, you so ahead of the times.
Mitch & I gonna join in the raceboy/girl fun in Botany when i'm down there. Just need a light wind kite, and maybe a Sector........... my birthday is coming up, now just need to convince my olds that $2000 is a fair price to pay for their only daughter's 30th birthday!!!


Yep as dave said they are not that expensive.

I will have a spare seat down to sydney this saturday if the racing is on
Last race for the season this Saturday
Anybody from newy interested?
If it's a southerly I will probly leave about 9am and get some time on the water down there.

I think kitepower will have the transporter for demo again to, so will give that a go


seriously??? last race this saturday?! I get down there next Saturday. That is farked. Lets start a Newy winter race series.



North Winter race series at Canton Beach? Hosted by Newcastle Kite and Sup...? Dave?

sorse
NSW, 509 posts
18 Feb 2012 8:22AM
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Canton is full of weed, twin tips would kill it..
I actually think Squids this winter we should have an unoffical race series using a few marker bouys which are constant, could even follow the wa example of doing gps or time trials. I'll post a picture when I have the time.
Wild and woolly westerly racing :)

JayP
QLD, 249 posts
18 Feb 2012 12:35PM
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What are the chances of this being on the 8th sept
Would luv to compete in this.
When is this decided, would book my flights to include if I know

I am on one of in the loops trips
27 Aug 2012
05 Sep 2012 9 nights
from: Misima
to: Misima


at this stage its pretty easy to move the comp date. depends on how many of us will be on the following charter.... :) i'll keep it in mind and work with mary and craig if there is enough interest from the tourists it will happen.



How many people would be interested in coming to PNG for a winter race carnival/long weekend? I could put together a package (airfares accom etc) i could probably even get some prize money together so you could win some if not all of the cost of the trip back.

wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
18 Feb 2012 7:34PM
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JayP said...

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at this stage its pretty easy to move the comp date. depends on how many of us will be on the following charter.... :) i'll keep it in mind and work with mary and craig if there is enough interest from the tourists it will happen.



getting a little off topic here but sounds good.

Out of curiosity, why do you say "depends on how many of us will be on the following charter"

Is there something you locals know that I dont that make it a better trip?
I have picked these trip dates for hopefully better wave options.

I can spend more time in PNG either side of the trip dates.
Is there any kiting to be had at Misima?

skebstebamal
QLD, 578 posts
17 Mar 2012 9:59PM
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Myn2 cents worth.

I have ridden both the cab and north race 2011 59's. Both in quads. The North was easy to ride it required less rail control and was good upwind. Off wind and down wind it topped out quickly. You can feel it get caught on the thicker fin foils. But it has a wide stable nose for down wind in swell.

The cab off wind and downwind Feels miles faster. It never seems to top out, it just keeps going faster and faster, and if you are game enough to reach off wind it is crazy. . Tail walking like a good slalom board. It definitely was harder to ride though, it seemed to catch edges easier in the ocean (where I do all my riding).

Overall for a competent rider I'd say confidently that the cab is quite a bit faster.

For better or for worse I just sold my cab 59 to get a 69. But wholly crap, how dear are the frigging things now! Anyone looking for a team rider for nationals??? :)



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