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NT
311 Posts
Posted 2/4/2013, 9:01 am        Report
Rider: 100kg Advanced Intermediate Style: Freeriding, Boosting. Weather: 10-20Knots Build Quality: 9/10 Satisfaction: 9/10 Disclosure: have a few different brands and pay for them all..... My Comments: My goto kite is a 2013 17M edge. So this is my main point of reference for this review. I have also ridden many other large kites which I will also compare against. I have a sector 60, which I use occasionally to get out when there is nothing, but bought this kite specifically to use with my twintip for boosting/ freeride in lighter winds. I like to ride well powered, and with the light winds we typically get here in Darwin, figured the 19 would be a winner. I have had it for around a month or so now, and have used it in winds from 10-20Knots. On the 17M, I can be well lit in around 15-16 knots (keep in mind this is the tropics). On the 19, this has come down to 13 or 14. It has a fair bit more static grunt, but is obviously a bit slower. Not as slow as I expected tho… I can stay upwind in around 10 or 11. (100kg on a 134 Nobile NHP). It probably doesn't have as much static grunt as the 18 Dyno, but turns better. I was a bit worried when I first launched it, as it steered like a pig. The rear lines were about 250mm too long, (ozone have since realised their mistake, bridles too long), which I fixed, and was then pleasantly surprised. Keep in mind this is a bloody big kite, so if you think a 12M is big, forget it. It boosts well, and was easy to adjust to in terms of setting up the jump, not really that much different from the 17. The hang is considerably longer than the 17 (which already has awesome hang), and some significant retiming of rotations etc was required to compensate on landing. It folds occasionally when I screw up a kiteloop and crash when its in the middle of the powerzone, but all of my edges (and most other large 4 line kites I have ridden) do the same when used towards the top of their windrange. Im guessing this kite is aimed directly at the racers, as a super light wind option, but it is a great lightwind freeride kite too, and well put together as usual with Ozone. cheers T
WA
46 Posts
Posted 2/4/2013, 8:02 pm        Report
Hi T one, thanks for your review all helpful. My 19 edge arrives mid April , have been enjoying 17 edge and felt the 19 edge would be a better fit for me on my l/wind Axis patrol 144/46 tt. Have swopped 17 edge for 2013 Zephyr 17, sweet boosting machine in Perth 12/22 knots as I am 95 kg. On the knots closest to the bar, are your steering lines on the middle or shortest line knot? Are you pumping it to 8 psi ? Thanks Rob
NT
311 Posts
Posted 3/4/2013, 8:52 am        Report
Hi Rob, currently on the shortest setting at the bar, with the pigtail removed at the kite end. Ozone are shipping replacement bridles soon apparently. may be a bit less than 8psi, cos i have had Norths for years and get a bit twitchy about over-inflating. how have you found the zephyr compared to the 17 Edge? cheers T
WA
46 Posts
Posted 3/4/2013, 8:20 pm        Report
Hi T thanks for answers, What length lines are you using on 19 edge? I have pumped all edges to 8psi for 2 seasons with no problems so far, I also close the strut clips and prefer a firm pressure. Have been using my 17 edge bar on both 17 edge and zephyr, has 25m lines, ordered zephyr bar and 27m lines to improve kites lower end. Edge 17 and Zephyr compared, zephyr is a more all round freestyle kite, has less power than edge in lower Perth wind range 10/14 knots. As a result it goes up wind more easier and not quite as fast, but even in 15/18 knots. Zephyr 17 2013 is smooth, good gust response and wind range, bar pressure light similar to edge 17.For our weight great boosting kite 15/22 knots, to 20 feet high/50 feet drift easily, great hang time kite, this will improve with time on kite. Zephyr, faster turning kite than edge very easy to boost and down loop , I find this zephyr allows me to edge hard pop and boost up to 21 knots,20/22 knots 2 inches depower, on my axis carbon limited tt 132/41. Not sure how this relates to your NT wind, I kite at Pond in Safety Bay. Some off above will change when I get bar with 27m lines. Zephyr is my new favourite kite than my edges and catalysts. The ozone zephyr video, I feel gives good indication off boost/hangtime Cheers rob
2230 Posts
Posted 4/4/2013, 3:25 am        Report
flying my old 13m edge last night it 15-20 knots and getting glorious glide. I can't even fathom the insane glide a 19m edge would give in those conditions!!!!. please take some footage!
WA
482 Posts
Posted 4/4/2013, 7:37 am        Report
I have the new 19m Edge and use it on a race board and have given it a total going over from 4 to 17 knots in last 2 weeks - I pump all of my Edges to 9psi. I love the 19m as I find it as quick as the 17m but had a lot more float and feels almost the same when 100% powered up. The kite for me is super stable and had no flutter at all in 4 to 17 knots racing or looping kite fully powered. The kite is as quick up wind as the 15 & 17. The kite loves race 30m lines under 10knots. Try 1 and you will be blown away if you are wanting more float and power in your bottom end of kiting. P.S it also comes with a new compression bag that helps compress bag for travel and works a treat.
NT
311 Posts
Posted 4/4/2013, 9:20 am        Report
Rob, standard lines that came with the 17M. no idea how long they are. and judging by all the weird looks i got last time i put up my 17 at the pond, i didnt think anyone else did that?? goodonya! Plummet, will talk to the Puetz (videographer extraordinaire), and see what we can do. problem is, he's always kiting!! and yeah, its a goddam paraglider!! Jonno - 9psi it is then!! (ok, maybe 8.5), and thanks for putting me onto the edges...
WA
46 Posts
Posted 4/4/2013, 8:26 pm        Report
Thanks T and JohnnoKeys ,good info. Two 17 edges and a 17 zephyr visit the Pond we enjoy our sessions crowded or not and ignore the bull, it is our local spot. Really looking forward to getting kite now, all info pointed to a better kite than I hoped for. Johnno, with the race lines, the steering lines are 100 kg lines would they be close to the limit for 100 kg rider for boosting. cheers Rob
WA
482 Posts
Posted 5/4/2013, 7:41 am        Report
if its super lite not a problem as what will happen if they snap - I use 2 bars a 25m set up & a 30m set up. The lite lines will snap if you tangle with another kite other wise they are all good - Ozone just say 100 hrs use then change to be on safe side. I am 97/98 kg
WA
46 Posts
Posted 5/4/2013, 8:23 pm        Report
Thanks Johnno, great news one new blue 19 edge arrived today, earlier than expected. Sunday forecast looks good, south/south east 10/15 weed bank next to the pond should be good with light wind tt. cheers Rob
WA
46 Posts
Posted 11/4/2013, 12:04 am        Report
95 kg rider, kite for race, free ride and boosting. Used axis light wind patrol tt. Safety bay Pond Saturday, difficult gusty s/east winds 0/12 knots. With kite at 12 pull on bar, sine kite and off I went easily in marginal conditions (7/8 knots white caps just appearing) Compared to 17 edge, the 19 is more powerful, stable, more responsive to bar movement and turns easier. Power in kite increases quickly from 8 knots, no depower before 12 knots. Small boosts/hang 9/12 knots, kite is easy to boost. Kite fell out sky several times and was able to reverse launch from 7 knots. Sunday at Pond, 10/17 knots sweet steady building s/w sea breeze. Self launched, 10 knots, instant power and good pull, nice lower edge like bar pressure, does increase a bit towards 17 knots. It is really sweet and manageable 10/15 knots, easy to and great boost down loop/ good drift. A couple inches depower 15/17 knots. Requires a good edging tt and technique, 14 plus I had to depower a lot to go up wind, or slow board speed a bit. Easy to slide turn board, ease bar a bit when redirecting kite or mid turn it will pull you up into a boost. For 7/17 knots this kite provides what I have been looking for, power, control and good light wind fun. Demo if you can a worthy kite. Please be care full, a big kite and would suggest it is for kiters who have big kite experience. cheers Rob
NT
311 Posts
Posted 20/4/2013, 9:45 pm        Report
Sooooo.... Had it out in around 9-14 knots for the last few days on the sector 60, and surprised myself with how much fun it was... Super fast and lit! Once the apparent kicks in you're off! Must put the footstraps back on the sector tho... every ikan plastik sent me over the bow.... Correct bridles arrived today also, so will report on the difference if any. I suspect i am still a little too long on the rears with my on the fly mod...
NT
1613 Posts
Posted 22/4/2013, 7:49 am        Report
T one said... Sooooo.... Had it out in around 9-14 knots for the last few days on the sector 60, and surprised myself with how much fun it was... Super fast and lit! Once the apparent kicks in you're off! Must put the footstraps back on the sector tho... every ikan plastik sent me over the bow.... Correct bridles arrived today also, so will report on the difference if any. I suspect i am still a little too long on the rears with my on the fly mod...
... damn dude, 19m and Sector, I'll never catch you now
21 Posts
Posted 30/5/2013, 11:31 am        Report
Flew the Edge 19 2 times this weekend. Also flew the 2013 Dyno 17. Both great kites. The edge 19 is now my FAVORITE KITE. I weigh 245 pies!! Edge pulls upwind in 9-12 mph better than anything I have ever flown. May sell my Speed 3 21M. 14
WA
5141 Posts
Posted 30/5/2013, 12:56 pm        Report
Toeside we use the metric system here! Been out now once on the zephyr (wrenched my knee so have been out of action, it is still sore but hey!). I know this a 19m edge post but there has been some talk so figured I'm okay to throw something in. I'm only 75kg (165lbs toeside), so thought it might be worth chucking a smaller guys two bobs worth. First time I used it the wind was light on the face, you know the wind where you think I might struggle here on a 132 Laluz, even at 75kg. A few whitecaps, kind of, but mainly swell driven. Soft ****y wind. Probably 10/11 knots gusting to 12/13. Well to my surprise I had no probs going upwind, even with some current about. Yeh not as fast as the edge, but just the right balance between moving forward in the window and yet dropping slightly back to give you a little more static pull, especially needed in the ocean. This includes turning as well, although like the edge it gives you that smooth gradual increase in power (not a whacky grunt power spike like some (a lot) kites and the reason I love aspect in a kite), but the static pull or more accurately the forward turning ability is greater than on the edge. But as I said everything slows down a touch. But the edge DNA built into this kite is extraordinary, just the right amount. (I would love to get on a zephyr is smaller sizes, free ride heaven for me). I was only riding in straight lines as the knee kept telling me push this further and it could go again. But i still threw in some jumps. By now the wind was gradually building to a stage my bro was out on a TT -136 crazy fly raptor, full carbon and a most exquisite board(at 84kg) on his 11m edge and I was still easily holding the power at full throttle. Again why I love aspect in a kite. When jumping I find it was much easier to get more vertical on the even a big kite like a zephyr than my experience on a 17m edge. Also pull the bar all the way in and the slightly lower aspect feeds back and you get this noticeable extra lift and hangtime (this was a very nice find). I can't wait to use this for some trickery in the air. Look it's a 17m so don't expect it to turn quick, but saying that the steering is really direct and if you are assertive it turns fast enough to execute most hooked in stuff. The static pull of this kite versus and edge also would provide a great platform for unhooked stuff - as the video shows, but you can feel this reality when you fly it. But alas I think my knee will stop any chanigans like that and may put them to rest completely now. Time to slow down I feel. Damn where was this sport when I was in my early twenties! But if i was 100kg and flying in Darwin a 19m edge would be my choice. See ya soon in Sanur Tony...bringing ya boat?
WA
222 Posts
Posted 1/6/2013, 6:17 pm        Report
First time out on a crispy new 19m edge today at point walter... 4 hours on the water (12:30-16:30), legs are finished :] honestly love this kite!!! Highly recommend trying one.
NT
1613 Posts
Posted 1/6/2013, 6:31 pm        Report
14Toeside said.. Flew the Edge 19 2 times this weekend. Also flew the 2013 Dyno 17. Both great kites. The edge 19 is now my FAVORITE KITE. I weigh 245 pies!! Edge pulls upwind in 9-12 mph better than anything I have ever flown. May sell my Speed 3 21M. 14
... hey 14, can you elaborate a little more regarding the 2013 Dyno 17m, how or why do you like the 19m over the 17m. Just so I'm clear on this, you are talking about the new 2013 Dyno?? cheers, Robbie
VIC
619 Posts
Posted 3/6/2013, 8:57 am        Report
AndyHansen said.. First time out on a crispy new 19m edge today at point walter... 4 hours on the water (12:30-16:30), legs are finished :] honestly love this kite!!! Highly recommend trying one.
Andy, what wind range and board did you have for the session? What do you think a realistic minimum & maximum wind would be for the Edge 19? I am tempted.
WA
222 Posts
Posted 3/6/2013, 9:56 am        Report
Peterc150 said..
AndyHansen said.. First time out on a crispy new 19m edge today at point walter... 4 hours on the water (12:30-16:30), legs are finished :] honestly love this kite!!! Highly recommend trying one.
Andy, what wind range and board did you have for the session? What do you think a realistic minimum & maximum wind would be for the Edge 19? I am tempted.
Wind was a bit of everything, i did drop the kite once yesterday during an extended lull. easier than expected to relaunch. I was using a custom crossing board with large 30cm fins , but as far as planning area is on par or less than my 132 TT. A decent size TT or sector, you'd be flying on sub 10 easily. The guys on 19m and raceboard could head out on much less wind again. Yesterday the other 19m that was out, from what i could see was as fast or faster than the 17s & 13s that were also out once the wind filled in a bit. The top end... unreal!!! I'm 94kg, was riding a smallish board with a couple large fins, only depowered around 50% once for a few minutes. Results may be alot different if on TT i suspect, the massive power of this kite is unreal, could be hard to hold an edge in the mid teans! Yesterday checking the readings averages between 11-14, with peak gusts around the 20s. First 2 days of winter, kited till i couldnt stand up on the board anymore, legs are still stiff today from the weekend... and im sporting a very unexpected sunnie tan! All thanks to the 19 edge :) http://www.seabreeze.com.au/Photos/View/7276500/Kitesurfing/Wind/ http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW60901/IDW60901.95620.shtml
NT
311 Posts
Posted 3/6/2013, 9:12 pm        Report
Hey Eppo, will be there... With the boat! and my 19. Havnt ridden the 17 since i got it...
WA
5141 Posts
Posted 3/6/2013, 9:16 pm        Report
Sweeet! Bring the 17m for me then...LOL!! Hey Tony what ya use for your light wind board? Surely you have one?
NT
311 Posts
Posted 4/6/2013, 9:07 pm        Report
Standard lw goto is my nugget. But if its really light ive got he sector 60. Also if im really desperate for some twintip action, i have a 146 undeground tt, which has bugger all rocker and gos in anything but is a pig. My daily ride is a 134 Nobile Nhp, which i love. Has heaps of rocker, and big fins, and with the 19, im lit in 12 knots or so. And when its 20 its mad fun! Might have the 17 with me if yer lucky.... Better bring Bourbon!
WA
5141 Posts
Posted 5/6/2013, 7:27 am        Report
Bourbon it is then! Lol. Yeh that 134 nobile is a sweet ride my buddy still has his 2010 and I'm yet to convince him to change to anything else. He rips on it in the waves and on the flat. Yeh those undergrounds work well to at that size been on one but damn heavy. Bring on carbon I say.
15 Posts
Posted 4/9/2013, 8:07 pm        Report
Hi, all. ive just ordered a 19 Edge after reading your comments and findings. ill be mainly using it with my Sector 60 v3 or k-Rapida but twin tip at tow tides. im not worried about the tt but the race board side of things. i had the 2013 Dyno 17 and liked it alot but some one offered me what i paid for it, as i got it second hand and had some use out of it so i let it go. After my exp with my 2013 11m edge of which is the sweetest kite i have ever flown, totally. i decided to get a 17m edge but after what you have said i decided to go the 19m way. my only worry was getting over powered quick if wind picked up. im 95kg and can hold a bit of power so thought if it picks up that much i can grab the 13m. As you have been using them for a while now how have you found them performing? Many thanks
NT
311 Posts
Posted 4/9/2013, 8:37 pm        Report
Now ive got 2 of em! still love em, at 95 kg, on a twinnie, you will be fine up to 20 knots if you like a bit of power. Gets a bit overpowered on the sector ( mines a 60 v2 i think ), at 15 plus, but christ you go faaaasssttt... For boost and hang they are fully sick maaate... Let us know what you think after you have had it a week or two... Ps, i have a 13 edge too, but only use it when its over 20, its awesome in low to mid 20's. would love to try an 11!
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Posted 4/9/2013, 11:42 pm        Report
T one said.. Now ive got 2 of em! still love em, at 95 kg, on a twinnie, you will be fine up to 20 knots if you like a bit of power. Gets a bit overpowered on the sector ( mines a 60 v2 i think ), at 15 plus, but christ you go faaaasssttt... For boost and hang they are fully sick maaate... Let us know what you think after you have had it a week or two... Ps, i have a 13 edge too, but only use it when its over 20, its awesome in low to mid 20's. would love to try an 11!
Argh mate your making me wet :) thats just filth to my ears. so they are still pretty stable then at that sort of wind speed? normally big kites can get a bit er well crazy!!! i cant wait prob got about 4 weeks till she is through my shop ive gone for this colour scheme. was going to go all black stealth but this will well stand out from the norm :) ive had my 11m up to 25mph and she was awesome, you think it she done it, she was perfection. so light but positive in feel, just waiting for your command. my mate had a go a month ago, was gusting 28mph he pulled the bar in it ripped him off his board which never left the water lol, he s##t himself pushed bar away and fell like a stone. i laughed so much, well he ordered one that week. just have not had much time on her since but hopefully this weekend. he is thinking of getting the 13 but has not even used his 11 yet so is waiting for a proper session on it first. Thanks for getting back ill let you know how i get on. Cheers
NT
311 Posts
Posted 5/9/2013, 6:50 pm        Report
Whoa man that colour is awesome, didnt know that was available. Yeah they are really stable in high winds, but can fold a bit under load (crash n burn loops etc), if not pumped hard. I was told to go to 8psi, and usually go at least 7 or 7.5 which pretty much fixes it. Sound like yr gonna luv it!
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Posted 5/9/2013, 8:32 pm        Report
cheers took me ages to decide what scheme was going for red canopy black lead edge and yellow flash. go on to the ozone web and you can make up your own scheme with the colours shown .... jesus its hard i want another now just so i can get my other colours lol when you get no. 3 your sorted cost me another 60 but well worth it me thinks.. just picture a 19m black lone edge cruising out in the sea....... magic. i put the yellow flash in just to show its distinctive edge design. ill post a pic when i get it... they better hurry up i was even dreaming about it last night Surprised Ozone dont give a recommended psi but i pump my 11 to around 8 odd cheers Tone
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Posted 24/9/2013, 4:44 pm        Report
OK, Ive just received my 19. first impressions is how light is this Kite??? i weighed it at around 3.75-3.8kg... and this includes the one pump system, for a 19m kite! wow they certainly know what it needed in a light wind kite. this is what i like about Ozone, rather than have a Species of kite like the Edge and build them all the same from 7m to 19m, they tailor each kite for the conditions it will be used in. I was going to pump it up when i got home but worm casts stopped me as soiling it with mud is not happening. i think wind will be ok this weekend for its maiden voyage, i hope my expectations will come true......
VIC
279 Posts
Posted 24/9/2013, 6:23 pm        Report
I picked up my new 16 meter 2014 Liquid Force NRG and I weighted it at 5 kg. I will write a review after I get a few more hours flying the kite. It is a surprise to read a 19 meter kite weight is less than 4 kg.
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Posted 24/9/2013, 9:08 pm        Report
I know I was surprised as you. This guy done a pretty in-depth review, it's in Czech but your browser should be able to translate it for you.... Well sort of, but you will get the jist of it http://www.snowkiting.cz/Clanky/recenze-vybaveni/v/OZONE-EDGE-19m-NOVINKA-SEZONY-2013- He reckons it weighs about the same as a 13 edge... Amazing....
 
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