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WA
1574 Posts
Posted 10/5/2011, 7:01 pm        Report
got some more stuff for you, 2 more sails- not unrolled yet, but might be in real good nick- and they look like biggies too! at least 5.2m
WA
826 Posts
Posted 24/5/2011, 9:06 pm        Report
Sorry sn wasn't being rude, just hadn't looked here in sail making till now. That is fantastic news, thank you kindly !!!! A good zigzag sewing machine would be the ducks guts sometime in the future. Mrs Chook was unhappy with hers disappearing over to the shed for weeks. Geez they get tetchy. It was certainly a "boy doing a mans job" though, as I did give the little domestic machine a hard time. It's only a power tool eh????But I've been told
WA
1174 Posts
Posted 24/5/2011, 11:06 pm        Report
Get yourself one thats better than hers and if'n yer lucky she might let you swap 'em
WA
826 Posts
Posted 25/5/2011, 6:34 pm        Report
I like your thinking Big fella!!!!! Reckon you might have done that before???
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 27/5/2011, 8:29 pm        Report
Chook2 said...
I like your thinking Big fella!!!!! Reckon you might have done that before???
just after I got mine , one of the kids needed something fixing.her majesty was too busy so I fixed it, then did a little canvas job for one of her afternoon tea friends, who then told all the other ladies how wonderful and clever susans husband is. sounds great except that now I get every silly little clothing repair sent to me and her majesty seems to think that it is just some silly toy in the shed does this look like one of my silly toys!!!!!! we whipped this up over the weekend, but that another story
WA
826 Posts
Posted 27/5/2011, 9:33 pm        Report
No not silly at all !!!! Is that who I think it is, in the "Coffin Express" ???? Looks fantastic !!!!!
TAS
1964 Posts
Posted 28/5/2011, 12:36 pm        Report
Coffin Express!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like something that Cousin Ugh carved out'n a hollow log?? Let's look closer to refute my description. Ron
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 28/5/2011, 7:36 pm        Report
thats "the plank". belongs to somebody called "wedgetail'. I simply provided the space for him to build his idea. I reckon if we get wind tomorrow I'm going to get flogged.. the sail was designed via Iphone by a sailmaker in Fremantle, who plotted out the panels onto nice new cloth, he then sent the roll of cloth and a simple plan by post. we cut out and with only 2 more phone calls managed to make the sail in a weekend. the beauty of this technique is that we can now ring the sailmaker with slight alterations , he plots , we cut and sew might have to call it the ...i-sail as opposed to my recycled eco-sails Im worried about getting thrashed ,so I dug into the sail pile and recut a Gasstra, which is now a stra-sail and also a Tushingham which is now really small so I'll call it an ingham-sail, or chicken sail (TP1 will get it)
Posted 28/5/2011, 8:19 pm        Report
landyacht said...
That sail looks like the ducks nuts Very nice!
WA
1174 Posts
Posted 28/5/2011, 10:43 pm        Report
landyacht said...
thats "the plank". belongs to somebody called "wedgetail'. I simply provided the space for him to build his idea. I reckon if we get wind tomorrow I'm going to get flogged.. the sail was designed via Iphone by a sailmaker in Fremantle, who plotted out the panels onto nice new cloth, he then sent the roll of cloth and a simple plan by post. we cut out and with only 2 more phone calls managed to make the sail in a weekend. the beauty of this technique is that we can now ring the sailmaker with slight alterations , he plots , we cut and sew might have to call it the ...i-sail as opposed to my recycled eco-sails Im worried about getting thrashed ,so I dug into the sail pile and recut a Gasstra, which is now a stra-sail and also a Tushingham which is now really small so I'll call it an ingham-sail, or chicken sail (TP1 will get it)
I told him to make a skinny sail from what he cut off and call it the Tush sail but he thought that I was giving him a Bum steer
WA
1574 Posts
Posted 31/5/2011, 11:02 am        Report
landyacht said...
one of the kids needed something fixing.her majesty was too busy so I fixed it, then did a little canvas job for one of her afternoon tea friends, who then told all the other ladies how wonderful and clever susans husband is. sounds great except that now I get every silly little clothing repair sent to me and her majesty seems to think that it is just some silly toy in the shed
Hey, Paul- I do hope you knocked up a miniature "flying pig" stencil and put it to good use anything comng out of your loft is supposed to wear the tattoo- isnt that the rule.
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 31/5/2011, 9:16 pm        Report
yes they got the tat dont i get any sails now that chooks your new best mate TP1 has flogged out yet another saill , so we need to find something for him
United States
1051 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 4:26 am        Report
What kind of thread do youse guys use when you're sewing sails? Is it the regular thick stuff for sewing denim; etc? I want to do a little work, but want to use as thick a thread as I can....
TAS
1964 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 8:06 am        Report
DY, You will get other answers, no doubt, but I would suggest you take into account the fact that machine sewing is a series of crossed loops. The Thread is drawn across itself in the cloth and that is the weakest point of a stitch, weaker than a direct pull on the same thread. My suggestion is to use a needle (Ball Point) that doesn't cut the cloth but separates (Pushes through) the warp and weft and a heavy thread.. Preferably a Dacron or Poly Cotton. As for Stitch spacing, try to replicate the spacings that the professionals use. Ron PS; You guys are quiet over there at the moment.. What is happening??
WA
1574 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 11:22 am        Report
Paul- Bryan is picking up the sails next weekend when he is in perth, I reckon it is highly likely chook might need to be imposed a tax for rent while they are residing in kal transport from kal to esperance is yet to be organised. there is a couple of real beauties in the pile, some average ones and a couple of so-so sails good for chopping up- and some of the smaller recuts that you dropped off to me. I had all the intentions of using the smaller recuts with the kids- but the sods have either grown bigger, or scared themselves out of landyachting- so I figured the schoolkids in esperance could make better use of them.
WA
1574 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 11:25 am        Report
TP1 has flogged out yet another saill , so we need to find something for him
TP1 must be carting a lot of ballast around....
SA
2443 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 4:42 pm        Report
landyacht said...
Gee that sail looks good and every time I look at it it looks better.
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 8:43 pm        Report
Gizmo said...
landyacht said...
Gee that sail looks good and every time I look at it it looks better.
after a trial run then a long chat with the sailmaker, I have great hope of being utterly whupped , when this yacht is tuned in. It was great to be using new materials. this id the first sail Ive put together with horizontal panels, so the whole thing was a learning process. Im looking forward to some more mast tests this weekend,this is one patient sailmaker after finishing this sail, I had a look at the stockpile of recuts and made this sail it started as a Gaastra 6.7m GTS but all that was left was about 3m of the original. the tush is finished to , but no photo yet. need to go sailing, need to go sailing,need....................... this is one patient sailmaker
TAS
1964 Posts
Posted 1/6/2011, 9:19 pm        Report
Gees! Talk about "Out of the Clear Blue" Suuweeeet!! It looks real nice Paul, real nice.. Need Input, Need Video Input. Ron
WA
826 Posts
Posted 2/6/2011, 6:48 pm        Report
Thank you kindly guys for going out of your way to help. It's nice how everyone pitches in, a first class effort. My gear is ready for the weekend so lookout Lefroy, Chook is on his way!!!! PS: Ta for the weather up date Lyndon
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 2/6/2011, 7:20 pm        Report
desertyank said...
What kind of thread do youse guys use when you're sewing sails? Is it the regular thick stuff for sewing denim; etc? I want to do a little work, but want to use as thick a thread as I can....
I use size 36 polycotton, and lots of it when picking apart sails Ive noticed that some brands are really tough thread, and some are no tougher than what I use. weve yet to have a sail fail from the stitching . the needles are a 130for the singer machine I have. denim needles are usually a 90,or a 110 for really heavy denim . If you are going to punch through monofilm you need a really sharp needle in your domestic machine, preferably with some kind of stick on material either side of the mono.. If you have a doubtful piece that you want to sew , make up a test strip of the same combinations , and try that first. If you have any difficulties , post your problems, as a number of us have machines now, plus there are a few non landyachters who contribute advice when we need it yesterday i finished another roll of thread , Im up to 26kms of thread used now
TAS
1964 Posts
Posted 2/6/2011, 9:33 pm        Report
Dang For a non pro that is a hell of a lot of sewing, you going all Pansy on us?? I had a little prob with the little Elna getting gunk on the needle and not wanting to punch threw a few layers of mono. A squirt with some Silicone Spray did the trick. Ron
United States
1051 Posts
Posted 2/6/2011, 10:26 pm        Report
landyacht said...
desertyank said...
What kind of thread do youse guys use when you're sewing sails? Is it the regular thick stuff for sewing denim; etc? I want to do a little work, but want to use as thick a thread as I can....
I use size 36 polycotton, and lots of it when picking apart sails Ive noticed that some brands are really tough thread, and some are no tougher than what I use. weve yet to have a sail fail from the stitching . the needles are a 130for the singer machine I have. denim needles are usually a 90,or a 110 for really heavy denim . If you are going to punch through monofilm you need a really sharp needle in your domestic machine, preferably with some kind of stick on material either side of the mono.. If you have a doubtful piece that you want to sew , make up a test strip of the same combinations , and try that first. If you have any difficulties , post your problems, as a number of us have machines now, plus there are a few non landyachters who contribute advice when we need it yesterday i finished another roll of thread , Im up to 26kms of thread used now
Trying to find a 130 needle now.... lots of 110's and 120's. what brand of needle are you using?
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 3/6/2011, 8:51 pm        Report
try to get in touch with a supplier to commercial operations . my supplier in aus does minimun orders of 100 needles in a packet. it amazes me that Ive used up almost half of them . brand is SNF german made a 120 might do the job , i started off with 110's
New Zealand
384 Posts
Posted 18/6/2011, 5:56 pm        Report
I picked up this Bernina from a mate a couple of years ago. It is an essential part of the workshop. You've godda get one of these Chook. Its amazing what repairs you can do. I have been using 110 needles. I have broken a few on the thick parts but they are perfect for the rest. Not sure about the thread. I'm just using what he gave me.
WA
826 Posts
Posted 18/6/2011, 11:37 pm        Report
You have me drooling!!!! That REALLY looks the goods!!! Lucky bugger!!! I've not had any luck tracking one down that does Zig zag. Well in my price range anyway. Question for Paul, would you buy a Singer 20U, if you had your time over again???? I was bored today, so I made up an offset for the tailstock on my lathe. Used my mill and lathe to construct it. (Sorry bout the photos, the phone dosen't like the overhead vapour lights) Can use the live centre for steel tapers. Just turning up a bit of wood off an old pallet to try it out. I can now turn 930mm long tapers. So I hope to use it to make 3 piece masts shortly. This bit ended up 25mm dia tip x 800mm long x 45mm dia base. Just need some suitable wood now.
TAS
1964 Posts
Posted 19/6/2011, 8:40 am        Report
Chook, What sort of timber are you looking for?/ I would have thought a Nice piece of Jarrah would do the trick? Hickory would be really good but a piece of Spotted Gum with a wavy grain would be as tough as all get out.. Have a look at the stuff used for Mattock Handles or Sledge Hammer Handles.. Ron
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 19/6/2011, 8:27 pm        Report
Nikrum said...
Chook, What sort of timber are you looking for?/ I would have thought a Nice piece of Jarrah would do the trick? Hickory would be really good but a piece of Spotted Gum with a wavy grain would be as tough as all get out.. Have a look at the stuff used for Mattock Handles or Sledge Hammer Handles.. Ron
Jarrah has quite a short grain , and tends to snap. the better choice is Karri, but both are a heavy wood. not a lot of hickory here, so recycled Oregon( douglas fir), something with 30+ rings to the inch or "tassie oak" which is your spotted gum , mountain ash, etc, or a piece of Ramin often obtained from trashed bedroom furniture drawer fronts, But hard to find in the hardware stores now
WA
5236 Posts
Posted 19/6/2011, 8:33 pm        Report
nebbian said...
landyacht said...
That sail looks like the ducks nuts Very nice!
fascinating day of sailing today, despite looking the ducks nuts , in a really nice new yacht with just the right wooden axle , green arrow with my new recycled sail consistently had the edge, with the exception of a couple of downwind legs where the wind dropped off suddenly and wedgetail just disappeared downwind leaving me to watch and wait for the wind to come back. next week we plan to swap rigs and crunch some numbers, but today i was often 20% faster down wind. sorry wedgetail
WA
826 Posts
Posted 21/6/2011, 8:20 am        Report
Thanks Ron and Paul. I'll do some searching locally. There has got to be a sorce here, now I know what I'm looking for. Now about that "Singer" Paul ??
TAS
1964 Posts
Posted 21/6/2011, 10:10 am        Report
landyacht said...
Nikrum said...
Chook, What sort of timber are you looking for?/ I would have thought a Nice piece of Jarrah would do the trick? Hickory would be really good but a piece of Spotted Gum with a wavy grain would be as tough as all get out.. Have a look at the stuff used for Mattock Handles or Sledge Hammer Handles.. Ron
Jarrah has quite a short grain , and tends to snap. the better choice is Karri, but both are a heavy wood. not a lot of hickory here, so recycled Oregon( douglas fir), something with 30+ rings to the inch or "tassie oak" which is your spotted gum , mountain ash, etc, or a piece of Ramin often obtained from trashed bedroom furniture drawer fronts, But hard to find in the hardware stores now
Gdonya Paul. I shall have a look around for a piece to do the trick. What I'm thinking though is to go see my local Aircraft Mech' and get a couple of new Air Tracks.. Second hand Aircraft tires get too far out of balance, hitting the Tarmac at 150kmh at a static situation burns some real nasty flats on them. Not too bad at low speed but the faster the nastier Ron Ron
 
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