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Broken paddle .fix or throw away

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Created by Tardy > 9 months ago, 2 Feb 2016
Tardy
4930 posts
2 Feb 2016 7:42PM
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Had a good surf ..paddled out the back after catching a good one ,straight for a wave that peaked..so i was forced to jump over the lip ,thinking my board would just be wash back ..but as I stared to come down after jumping over the lip there it was waiting for me on the other side ,
suprise ..right where I was coming down ..it was in my landing zone .i was about 4 foot in the air .All I could do was put my paddle in front of me ,to protect my face .i come down hard ,winding myself and breaking the paddle across the board ,it didn't enjoy 97 kgs .
any way should I just throw it away for fix it ??.....and lend it out to reckless mate ..???

unsure how to do the fix.

broom stick and glass it ,maybe .its performance as a good paddle is gone i know .

what would you do .?

RIP makani .

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
2 Feb 2016 11:23PM
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IMO.. fix..

supthecreek
2585 posts
2 Feb 2016 8:51PM
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Any smart shop will keep all of the cut pieces when they shorten a paddle shaft.
If you can find a piece that fits snugly inside your broken pieces, and it is long enough (5-6" +)
Cut your shaft ends square (I do this with a chop saw)
epoxy the shaft piece on 1 half.... insert it into 1 end of the broken shaft. let it dry
After it is dry, do the same to the other half of the shaft, making sure that the handle and blade are properly aligned.
When you epoxy the 2nd half, wrap a solid 10" band of fiberglass around the repair.
If you don't do this, the "plug" may split the weakened shaft when you stress it.

It will make a good back-up paddle, but you should use the broken one as a good excuse to get a new paddle now!

I did this to a paddle and it lasted forever. Ended up including it with a board sale.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
3 Feb 2016 9:46AM
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Easy fix - as stc mentions above - but if the piece of shaft doesn't fit, 2 cuts along the length of the sleeve close to each other, remove the small fillet and squeeze in with epoxy to fit. If the sleeve won't squeeze in - sand off some outer glass to reduce surface tension as it won't affect the strength. Make sure the sleeve is long enough but not so long it creates a stiff spot (200mm is plenty).

Otherwise, do as I did with my oval shaft after snapping a couple of them - sleeve on outside by splitting the sleeve in half and clamping/epoxy. I'll find a photo.

supthecreek
2585 posts
3 Feb 2016 10:15AM
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Aaahhh.... Sailhack, very savvy!
I like that... cut a slit, compress the plug to slip it in, and let the tension expand it to strengthen the fit.... very nice!
I never contemplated that, Thanks!

Tardy
4930 posts
3 Feb 2016 10:16AM
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supthecreek said..
Any smart shop will keep all of the cut pieces when they shorten a paddle shaft.
If you can find a piece that fits snugly inside your broken pieces, and it is long enough (5-6" +)
Cut your shaft ends square (I do this with a chop saw)
epoxy the shaft piece on 1 half.... insert it into 1 end of the broken shaft. let it dry
After it is dry, do the same to the other half of the shaft, making sure that the handle and blade are properly aligned.
When you epoxy the 2nd half, wrap a solid 10" band of fiberglass around the repair.
If you don't do this, the "plug" may split the weakened shaft when you stress it.

It will make a good back-up paddle, but you should use the broken one as a good excuse to get a new paddle now!

I did this to a paddle and it lasted forever. Ended up including it with a board sale.


Thank you sup the creek and sail hack ..
I have the old piece cut off ..I will use a grinder to take a line out so I get the right diameter
then glass .i'll post a few shots later .tardy.

Tardy
4930 posts
3 Feb 2016 10:17AM
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supthecreek said..
Any smart shop will keep all of the cut pieces when they shorten a paddle shaft.
If you can find a piece that fits snugly inside your broken pieces, and it is long enough (5-6" +)
Cut your shaft ends square (I do this with a chop saw)
epoxy the shaft piece on 1 half.... insert it into 1 end of the broken shaft. let it dry
After it is dry, do the same to the other half of the shaft, making sure that the handle and blade are properly aligned.
When you epoxy the 2nd half, wrap a solid 10" band of fiberglass around the repair.
If you don't do this, the "plug" may split the weakened shaft when you stress it.

It will make a good back-up paddle, but you should use the broken one as a good excuse to get a new paddle now!

I did this to a paddle and it lasted forever. Ended up including it with a board sale.


Thank you sup the creek and sail hack ..
I have the old piece cut off ..I will use a grinder to take a line out so I get the right diameter
then glass .i'll post a few shots later .of the master piece .tardy.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
3 Feb 2016 4:03PM
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Sailhack said..
I'll find a photo.


See pic below - I rounded the ends of the outside sleeves to allow some flex at the edges of the sleeve. You can just see a very faint line across the middle where the 2 cut pieces meet. It also is handy as a grip (shaft snapped right at where my lower hand grips it). Pardon the wax around the sleeve area.

I did the fix >18mths ago and have surfed with it many times since.





Tardy
4930 posts
3 Feb 2016 2:48PM
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Looks good..thanks for the photo ..
Im thinking I might glass the tube inside and glass the outside ..joint.

charlieuk
355 posts
3 Feb 2016 3:09PM
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Like said use a pice of shaft aprox 250-300mm long with a split but cut all ends on a 45deg angle to spread the load at the joints and prevent a stress crack, it will allso take off the rotation force on the repair and there will be no need to glass tge outside. I did my surf paddle this way a number of years ago and lot of other paddles without any problems.

colas
4993 posts
3 Feb 2016 3:46PM
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An alternative is just to unglue the shaft, from handle and blade, it is suprisingly easy by heating it with a heat gun, like the ones to remove the paint, and replace just the shaft. Expensive, but the result is as new.

My trick to unglue are:
- wear non-plastic gloves to avoid burns (garden, construction)
- heat all around the glued part, always moving
- apply some paint beforehand where you want to unglue: if the paint bubbles, it will act as a warning as the temperature is high enough, no need for more, just twist the part, they will come off..

bomberdave
VIC, 397 posts
3 Feb 2016 8:25PM
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if you dont fancy a fix i would buy the blade end as i have a perfect shaft!!! but broken blade.

Tardy
4930 posts
3 Feb 2016 6:14PM
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No worries dave, but after all this good advise I'm gonna give it a go ..
i don't believe it will be too hard now..
but if I break it again it yours.

charlieuk
355 posts
4 Feb 2016 3:46PM
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Blades are not imposable to fix ether but do require more materials to do so and will add a little more weight. This one was one I did a few years ago now, broken in the worst place but fine after repairing with uni carbon





Tardy
4930 posts
4 Feb 2016 4:21PM
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Looks good Charlie ...I had the piece of shaft I cut off .I had to cut a bit out to fit it in glassed it then inserted .will try it in a couple of days .





I had to drink that carton of tooheys too ..I needed the box .

charlieuk
355 posts
4 Feb 2016 4:36PM
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i really would have spliced the joint at 45deg and cut the ends at 45deg as i have seen a few adjustable go right were the inner shaft ended which is a not to all adjustable shaft users but that should hold fine

charlieuk
355 posts
4 Feb 2016 4:44PM
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This was the repair on my own surf paddle 2+ years ago and I put my full force on to it with no problems the repair was only 4" above the neck. No need for any glass on the out side.






Tardy
4930 posts
4 Feb 2016 5:14PM
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Ok I see what you mean ..nice job ...I was trying not to cut too much off ...as it is just the right ..size ..
mine won't be as pretty as that ..
see how she goes ..I reckon it will be strong ..

Krist
QLD, 288 posts
4 Feb 2016 7:28PM
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And I shoved a broom handle down the guts ? Wish I knew about seabreeze when I snapped it

Cowville
WA, 36 posts
4 Feb 2016 5:45PM
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Leroy13
VIC, 1174 posts
5 Feb 2016 7:48AM
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Great vid Cowville. I normally don't find vids like this interesting but this was great. I think he might make it look easier than it is though

Tardy
4930 posts
17 Feb 2016 4:38PM
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Finished ..went around twice with the matting ..where the break was .once around top and bottom ,over lapping .
great vid cowville.

yes it is a little stiffer with the insert ..and extra class ..but that's ok ..still feels good ..

used the green part ( pot scrubber) of the dish washing sponge for the final sand down Matt finish .

thanks everyone with the pictures and advise ..learnt something for a change ..

Johndesu
NSW, 549 posts
17 Feb 2016 9:00PM
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Hopefully it will hold and be all good (if it isn't let me know) - also if you put your hand / hold the paddle over the repaired joint (as you paddle) it should never break again :-)



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