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Is this the future?

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Created by AA > 9 months ago, 5 Jun 2010
AA
NSW, 2159 posts
5 Jun 2010 9:02PM
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PSH 12'6 Hybrid quad



Testing again today and this time a Hybrid 12-6 meant to paddle if you like paddling, race if you like racing and surf if you like surfing. Austin took it out this morning and destroyed some sections surfing it. Yup, this thing surfs unreal! Not just going straight but legitimate hard carving turns, floaters, off the tops etc. It's ridiculous in the surf and it paddles sweeeet..... The future is right here... Hybrid Surf/Race boards... Slam sections or paddle fast for miles... Yeah!!!

surfanimal
NSW, 1632 posts
5 Jun 2010 9:06PM
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Any other shots of it and width / thickness ?

Looks sweeeet.

Maybe wood veneer by the looks too ? (PT Woody & I will be in for sure).

TrevNewman
VIC, 237 posts
5 Jun 2010 11:03PM
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AA said...

PSH 12'6 Hybrid quad



Testing again today and this time a Hybrid 12-6 meant to paddle if you like paddling, race if you like racing and surf if you like surfing. Austin took it out this morning and destroyed some sections surfing it. Yup, this thing surfs unreal! Not just going straight but legitimate hard carving turns, floaters, off the tops etc. It's ridiculous in the surf and it paddles sweeeet..... The future is right here... Hybrid Surf/Race boards... Slam sections or paddle fast for miles... Yeah!!!


I predict that in the future they will invent something that can harness the power of the wind, perhaps it will be called a 'sail' and then someone will figure out a way to attach it to a board and call it 'windsurfing' and there will be much happiness as it will be much more fun to use than the labor of boring and tedious paddling.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
6 Jun 2010 12:10AM
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The board may be the future but the paddle looks like the past.. Look how big that blade is..

How wide is that board AA?

DJ

Bnaccas
VIC, 1722 posts
6 Jun 2010 12:14AM
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Thats the new Kialoa, haven't you seen it yet DJ?

Looks like the new Kialoa PowerTec, should be in stores soon.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
6 Jun 2010 12:27AM
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Bnaccas said...

Thats the new Kialoa, haven't you seen it yet DJ?

Looks like the new Kialoa PowerTec, should be in stores soon.


Looks like the Kialoa Nalu.

DJ

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
5 Jun 2010 10:43PM
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DavidJohn said...

The board may be the future but the paddle looks like the past.. Look how big that blade is..

Bnaccas said...

Thats the new Kialoa, haven't you seen it yet DJ?

Hahaha!

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
6 Jun 2010 1:51AM
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surfanimals said...

Any other shots of it and width / thickness ?

Looks sweeeet.

Maybe wood veneer by the looks too ? (PT Woody & I will be in for sure).




Not sure about the details yet Chris, but we will get to know more at the Battle of the Paddle in Hawaii next weekend-

http://www.rainbowsandals.com/BattleOfthePaddle/HI/live/

They had over 400 turn up to Dana Point last year, it will be interesting to see how many make it to Hawaii!



Should be cool to watch it live!

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
6 Jun 2010 9:27AM
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interesting aa. the bop dc 12'6 is getting into that sort of hybrid area too. i was surfing my flatwater 14' in the waves yesterday afternoon and and a ball, catch waves or ride the bump. the more i do the easier it is getting. got to be careful about being a wave hog as you can pickup anything.
cheers

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
6 Jun 2010 6:47PM
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Interesting shape..

DJ

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
6 Jun 2010 6:57PM
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Looking forward to seeing more pics of their DW board.

DJ

aussiefreebs
VIC, 228 posts
6 Jun 2010 7:21PM
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DavidJohn said...

Interesting shape..

DJ




Looks like Dave Daums shaping room, not Dave though.

Simondo
VIC, 8019 posts
6 Jun 2010 7:43PM
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I think a 12'6 all rounder has a lot of merit. Seems to be a fixed dimension in Races & Battle of the Paddle, etc, 12'6 and under, or 12'6 over, or 12'6 to 14.... etc....

The longer boards have an ease of picking off waves, and you can surf them in a Hawaiian laid back style. They have good paddle speed for flat water, and are also a great length for exploring off shore bomboras.... A reasonable size for a distance cruiser.... but probably a fraction short for down wind.

PS - The shaping bay looks like most shaping bays (I haven't been to Dave's though).... blue walls, 2 board stands, under pelmet fluro lighting, some air tools, tools on the shelf, and little bit of air extraction! BUT, that board in the bay looks very very interesting !! Come to think of it, every bay I've been into has had a concrete floor also !

loco4olas
NSW, 1511 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:03PM
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Simondo said...

PS - The shaping bay looks like most shaping bays (I haven't been to Dave's though).... blue walls, 2 board stands, under pelmet fluro lighting, some air tools, tools on the shelf, and little bit of air extraction!


Nah-there's no naked girlie pics.

Simondo
VIC, 8019 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:05PM
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loco4olas said...

Simondo said...

PS - The shaping bay looks like most shaping bays (I haven't been to Dave's though).... blue walls, 2 board stands, under pelmet fluro lighting, some air tools, tools on the shelf, and little bit of air extraction!


Nah-there's no naked girlie pics.





Good eye for detail !!

aussiefreebs
VIC, 228 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:10PM
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Yeah, I haven't been into many shaping bays, not real ones anyway. Only just guys who make stuff at home and enjoy doing it. Dave Daum's was posted on here a little while back, that's the only way I'd know it.

Silly me I guess

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:11PM
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That's also what I look for when I enter a shapers room.. .. Usually a Reef ad.

DJ

loco4olas
NSW, 1511 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:26PM
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Back on topic-nah that's NOT the future for me-might be for those that want a one board quiver and don't want to surf waves on their board-it's a good idea-and should stay as one-you can't make one board to do all things well-make a downwind board for downwinders-a surfing SUP for surfing (Jack of all trades, master of none and all that)-why bother with a board which is only good at both rather than excel at either?

Look at surfing-same thing-I won't ride my 708 gun in 1 foot shoreys and I didn't take out my 510 in last weekend's swell-horses for courses IMO.

laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:38PM
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loco4olas said...

Back on topic-nah that's NOT the future for me-might be for those that want a one board quiver and don't want to surf waves on their board-it's a good idea-and should stay as one-you can't make one board to do all things well-make a downwind board for downwinders-a surfing SUP for surfing (Jack of all trades, master of none and all that)-why bother with a board which is only good at both rather than excel at either?

Look at surfing-same thing-I won't ride my 708 gun in 1 foot shoreys and I didn't take out my 510 in last weekend's swell-horses for courses IMO.


you are spot on,but there is a market for hybrids

loco4olas
NSW, 1511 posts
6 Jun 2010 11:18PM
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Maybe this is the future :

Gorgo
VIC, 4917 posts
6 Jun 2010 11:52PM
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I want a hybrid.

Something about 12' (12'6" would do) so it fits in my garage. Not too much overhang on the car.

Something I can paddle flat water and go for a bit of a cruise. Do the odd downwinder and catch runners enough runners to make it worthwhile. Go exploring. Visit the odd bommie and catch some waves without risking life and limb. Go for a fitness paddle and imagine my Lairdie muscles glistening in the sunlight.

Something I can surf on when it's no good for the 9' board which will always be the surf SUP of choice.

It still needs to be not much over 10kg so I can lug it around without losing the will to live.

It needs to stack on the roof rack with all the other toys when I go for trips down the coast (and slide into the garage rack with the other boards).

I don't want a 14' downwind board because it's too big and too heavy and the wrong shape to fit anywhere and downwinders are too much of a drama to have a dedicated board.

I don't want just a race board because if there are waves I want to catch em.

I don't want a heavy allround SUP because it's no fun lugging a slug of a board around.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
7 Jun 2010 12:20AM
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Gorgo said...

I want a hybrid.

Something about 12' (12'6" would do) so it fits in my garage. Not too much overhang on the car.

Something I can paddle flat water and go for a bit of a cruise. Do the odd downwinder and catch runners enough runners to make it worthwhile. Go exploring. Visit the odd bommie and catch some waves without risking life and limb. Go for a fitness paddle and imagine my Lairdie muscles glistening in the sunlight.

Something I can surf on when it's no good for the 9' board which will always be the surf SUP of choice.

It still needs to be not much over 10kg so I can lug it around without losing the will to live.

It needs to stack on the roof rack with all the other toys when I go for trips down the coast (and slide into the garage rack with the other boards).

I don't want a 14' downwind board because it's too big and too heavy and the wrong shape to fit anywhere and downwinders are too much of a drama to have a dedicated board.

I don't want just a race board because if there are waves I want to catch em.

I don't want a heavy allround SUP because it's no fun lugging a slug of a board around.


Sounds like you need to pay another visit to Dean..

DJ

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
6 Jun 2010 10:42PM
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DavidJohn said...

Looking forward to seeing more pics of their DW board.

And Kialoa's new big bladed paddle!

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
7 Jun 2010 12:55AM
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Greenroom said...

DavidJohn said...

Looking forward to seeing more pics of their DW board.

And Kialoa's new big bladed paddle!




Actually they do have a big blade race paddle coming that Chuck has been testing..

It's a bit like this.

DJ



cRAZY Canuk
NSW, 2528 posts
7 Jun 2010 10:20AM
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laceys lane said...

loco4olas said...

Back on topic-nah that's NOT the future for me-might be for those that want a one board quiver and don't want to surf waves on their board-it's a good idea-and should stay as one-you can't make one board to do all things well-make a downwind board for downwinders-a surfing SUP for surfing (Jack of all trades, master of none and all that)-why bother with a board which is only good at both rather than excel at either?

Look at surfing-same thing-I won't ride my 708 gun in 1 foot shoreys and I didn't take out my 510 in last weekend's swell-horses for courses IMO.


you are spot on,but there is a market for hybrids


I'm with Loco on this one - but I'd be interested to see how the Hybrid Quad goes. I just think you sacrifice too much of one to have it do a bit of the other.

Simondo
VIC, 8019 posts
7 Jun 2010 7:26PM
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I agree, it will be the master of none, but some people like to participate, as opposed to win !!

A 12'6 like this will sell well (IMO). Good leaner board, you can have fun in a race, and you'll have a ball in 1/2 foot to 2 foot surf! And you can throw it into the river or bay and go for a bit of scenic cruising.... Master of none, but you'll have a ball doing it all !!

Gorgo
VIC, 4917 posts
7 Jun 2010 9:22PM
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I agree. I don't want best I want good and reliable and easy and fun to use.

Elite riders have the luxury of choosing elite gear for elite conditions. The rest of us want to ride and have fun all the time no matter what the conditions.

The biggest disservice you can do to the public is to hold up the example of the gear used by the best riders in the world. That leads to people on too short boards and too fragile boards and too expensive boards and ...

The whole ethos of SUP is it is aimed at all of us, not just the elite.

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
21 Jun 2010 4:10PM
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Some pics of the new 12-6 Hybrid quad! VERY intersting board!



It's hard to describe the joys this board will bring.... You can race it, play with it or surf the shizzle out of it! We've been riding the prototypes and it's insane the combination of paddling and the level of surfing you can reach with a board that you can cruise around with quickly.... The photo's and vids coming will blow your mind!!!!!
BC

doggie
WA, 15849 posts
21 Jun 2010 2:16PM
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TrevNewman said...

AA said...

PSH 12'6 Hybrid quad



Testing again today and this time a Hybrid 12-6 meant to paddle if you like paddling, race if you like racing and surf if you like surfing. Austin took it out this morning and destroyed some sections surfing it. Yup, this thing surfs unreal! Not just going straight but legitimate hard carving turns, floaters, off the tops etc. It's ridiculous in the surf and it paddles sweeeet..... The future is right here... Hybrid Surf/Race boards... Slam sections or paddle fast for miles... Yeah!!!


I predict that in the future they will invent something that can harness the power of the wind, perhaps it will be called a 'sail' and then someone will figure out a way to attach it to a board and call it 'windsurfing' and there will be much happiness as it will be much more fun to use than the labor of boring and tedious paddling.


A truer thing has never been said on this forum

DavidJohn
VIC, 17417 posts
21 Jun 2010 4:20PM
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Bring on the vids ..

How wide is it?

DJ

Ali Cat
QLD, 1205 posts
21 Jun 2010 4:21PM
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AA said...





Looks very interesting... i wonder if I can sneak a demo on one of these proto's while in Hawaii???



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