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QLD
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Posted 03/03/2012, 8:44 pm        Report Show Profile
surfershaneA said...
Man, more SUP angst! Makes me happy I am sailing around finding some obscure waves without the attitude.
Touche'
WA
203 Posts
Posted 03/03/2012, 8:48 pm        Report Show Profile
let me start by saying that ive surfed short boards for 35 plus years, was competent to good on my day. 2 years ago i started surfing a sup. No choice really, fused vertebrae in my back, too much middle aged spread etc. the option was to give up surfing altogether or hop on a tanker. Now i sup whenever i can and i absolutely love it. however and heres the rub, in spite of 35 years of surfing, including being president of the university boardriders, i will never take a sup into any crowded line up. Never !!! SUPS are just too big and cumbersome to safely surf around other craft. The natural order of things means that in perth there are now defined sup breaks as opposed to the better known short board breaks. SUPS can catch pretty much anything, we dont need to hang out at the traditional breaks. The fundamental reason why we cant and shouldnt surf sups in crowded lineups is that you cannot duck dive a sup like you can a short board or even a much lower volume mal. Inevetably you will end up with 10 to 15 kg of board hurtling through already crowded lineups. In any surf situation where the swell is big you will get caught inside. I dread to think what my 9.6 allwave or even my 8.10 starby would do hurtling behind me in the line up. I know there is a feeling here that we should be able to surf anywhere we like, but i humbly disagree. SUPs were never intended for crowded lineups. as ive said earlier at most beaches in WA there are sup lineups, further down, not as good, a bit fuller etc, but still a blast on a sup. There are obvioulsy guys who rip and can cut it with the shortboarders. These guys are the exception and not the rule. I also think that to surf safely in a crowded line up you need surfing experience. New sup riders are paddlers long before theyre surfers. There is absolutely no way that those guys should be any where near a crowded lineup. Untill we acknowledge that sup awesome as it is has its own place in the surfing world, and that place is away from others riding smaller less dangerous watercraft, then people will rightly get pissed off at us.
VIC
3360 Posts
Posted 03/03/2012, 9:44 pm        Report Show Profile
Looks to me like a longboarder with a paddle in his hand and your right it is kook material, didnt see much SUP in that vid???
supanimal said...
For many in the industry, SUP has been and is purely the business of making money with no interest in the sport or experience in the rules and regs we as surfers follow so with new entrants entertaining the idea of being involved especially doing homework by reading forums and mags before having a crack, it's always going to end in tears. Sups can ride rivers, creeks, oceans and the like, take advantage of that and piss off out of the surf breaks cause you are an absolute pain in the arse entering 'surfboard' line-ups. Yes, I've ridden sups in the surf and absolutely hated trying to twist and turn a blob of a board around surfers with not a pinch of stoke that you get from a surfboard. Go downwind, go creek adventuring and ripple riding but stay out of the surf unless your in the 1% who rip it apart and can gain respect quickly or know spots that are not populated or are far away from the known and / or crowded banks. SUK'n a gold coast point is not using common sense for the majority, it's plain stupid. (Stand Up Kook)
Happy with red thumbs.....they'll be from non surfers, REAL surfers will totally understand what I'm saying.....The video says it all. Pretenders.
QLD
7830 Posts
Posted 03/03/2012, 9:58 pm        Report Show Profile
OG SUP said...
Looks to me like a longboarder with a paddle in his hand and your right it is kook material, didnt see much SUP in that vid???
supanimal said...
For many in the industry, SUP has been and is purely the business of making money with no interest in the sport or experience in the rules and regs we as surfers follow so with new entrants entertaining the idea of being involved especially doing homework by reading forums and mags before having a crack, it's always going to end in tears. Sups can ride rivers, creeks, oceans and the like, take advantage of that and piss off out of the surf breaks cause you are an absolute pain in the arse entering 'surfboard' line-ups. Yes, I've ridden sups in the surf and absolutely hated trying to twist and turn a blob of a board around surfers with not a pinch of stoke that you get from a surfboard. Go downwind, go creek adventuring and ripple riding but stay out of the surf unless your in the 1% who rip it apart and can gain respect quickly or know spots that are not populated or are far away from the known and / or crowded banks. SUK'n a gold coast point is not using common sense for the majority, it's plain stupid. (Stand Up Kook)
Happy with red thumbs.....they'll be from non surfers, REAL surfers will totally understand what I'm saying.....The video says it all. Pretenders.
yeh for sure. if thats not a sup. stupid post
NSW
196 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 8:47 am        Report Show Profile
Not going to write too much about this article cause this subject has been beaten to s..t.!! I feel though for you guys who ride sup's on the goldy doing the right thing. I just hope that the article which was printed doesn't incite violence towards you guys out in the water.
QLD
278 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 9:37 am        Report Show Profile
Typical Gold Coast Bulletin crap that we put up with on a daily basis. This stuff sells papers as it is "sensational journalism." Sure beginners need to be away from the pack and learn how to handle these big boards before moving closer to a crowded bank/spot. However there are a lot of competent sup guys/girls who do show respect and can competently handle their boards and surf these places regularly without any issues. As usual it only takes a small minority to ruin it for the greater majority. Gold Coast Bulletin paper makes a great firestarter P.S The outline of the sup paddler on the page looks a lot like you Jacko
VIC
1061 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 11:57 am        Report Show Profile
This is all eerily familiar. Substitute "Cyclist" or "Lycra Menace" for "SUPer" and substitute "Beach Road" for "Currumbin Alley" and you could be reading the Melbourne Age, Herald-Sun or Bayside Leader. Take: A sport with low barriers to entry and fast growing participation rates; A finite resource; Gung-ho newcomers; A lack of education about etiquette and "the rules" (and ready ways to get it); Hubris and a disproportionate sense of entitlement (among a noisy and visible few on all sides); An absence of mutuality and common sense (among a noisy and visible few on all sides); Add a pinch each of "Slow News Week" and "Lazy Media", stir liberally..and Voila! If everyone just behaved 10% better we wouldn't be having the discussion. Humans...can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
QLD
Austria
8588 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 12:41 pm        Report Show Profile
the bully reporters should come down to the alley, the pirate park, winders and the creek and just see the numbers of people surfing, paddling around on all sorts of craft and generally having a good relaxed time on a lazy sunday morning. but wouldn't sell papers would it- way too feel good
NSW
729 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 2:33 pm        Report Show Profile
Ok, I am coming into this a little late but seeing as I got a mention from SUP.......no SURFanimal thought I'd throw my 120 kgs around for a bit. Firstly.......I am still a kook, so surf at greenhills trying to be far away from everyone, but its all sort of coming together so The (infamous) Wall I'm coming back Secondly........even when surfing (or shall we say) attempting to surf at Greenhills can all you fricken longboarders stay the hell away from me, and dont get me started on kids playing the shore break, there are flags go swim between them Thirdly.........if I ever come to the goldie, I am going straight to Jackos shop and getting him to give me surf lessons at where ever it is the problem is, I reckon he's the meanest looking mother on the GC so I am going to join his 1%ers Fourthly..........Scotty "Ours" in the shire, nuff said And Last.......SURFanimal can I have my paddle back obviosuly you have no need for it anymore...........
VIC
602 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 2:44 pm        Report Show Profile
HumanCartoon said...
This is all eerily familiar. Substitute "Cyclist" or "Lycra Menace" for "SUPer" and substitute "Beach Road" for "Currumbin Alley" and you could be reading the Melbourne Age, Herald-Sun or Bayside Leader. Take: A sport with low barriers to entry and fast growing participation rates; A finite resource; Gung-ho newcomers; A lack of education about etiquette and "the rules" (and ready ways to get it); Hubris and a disproportionate sense of entitlement (among a noisy and visible few on all sides); An absence of mutuality and common sense (among a noisy and visible few on all sides); Add a pinch each of "Slow News Week" and "Lazy Media", stir liberally..and Voila! If everyone just behaved 10% better we wouldn't be having the discussion. Humans...can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
Your spot on Mr Toon.. Though I must admit I no longer ride a bike because of 'Kook' car drivers. The laminectony I just had is probably directly attributable to being hit a number of times by car drivers that weren't concentrating. (I've nearly done it my self.) My whole complaint about this SUP thing being an issue is that down here we have the opposite, I go out by myself, catch a couple of reasonable waves because of the increased volume of the board and within minutes, I'll have ten longboarders and five shortboarders as company all taking off on the shoulder. They all usually go for the first wave of the set and get cleaned up, so then you have all these obstacles in the water that very rarely paddle to the inside after being cleaned up. They paddle to the face. Most of them then get angry that you are getting waves because they can't either make the sections or the wave is too slow. Fortunately (touch wood) I haven't hit anyone so far in the 3 years I've been out in the water (scared a few though.) Everybody has their gripes. The suppers on the GC should use their Go Pro's to document the idiots on shortboards and mals and present the evidence to that rag that passes itself off as a newspaper on a slow news day. I really do feel sorry for you guys.. By the way I'm pretty sure that the clip itself is of Malibu, I remember seeing it a couple of months ago somewhere when a shortboarder was having a big glass of whine. As for the break known as "Ours". It doesn't really matter where it is. You gotta pay your dues to ride a place like that! It is no place for a SUP! I don't know why I keep on getting sucked into these exchanges, probably because people like, Piros, Wazza, Lacey and a whole heap of other crew are clearly good enough to Sup surf anywhere they want to, at anytime they want to on the GC (all points included) they have the water safety and surfing ability/knowledge required. Maybe if all the hot guys up there in all surfing disciplines got full face Moko tattoos then the 95% of wannabes would be clear on who you don't drop in on!! Hopefully I'm still here in twenty years time, and I betcha there will still be the same arguments going on about something new. Good luck and don't forget to have fun!!
Vatican City
4214 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 2:49 pm        Report Show Profile
ShireSUP said...
Ok, I am coming into this a little late but seeing as I got a mention from SUP.......no SURFanimal thought I'd throw my 120 kgs around for a bit. Firstly.......I am still a kook, so surf at greenhills trying to be far away from everyone, but its all sort of coming together so The (infamous) Wall I'm coming back Secondly........even when surfing (or shall we say) attempting to surf at Greenhills can all you fricken longboarders stay the hell away from me, and dont get me started on kids playing the shore break, there are flags go swim between them Thirdly.........if I ever come to the goldie, I am going straight to Jackos shop and getting him to give me surf lessons at where ever it is the problem is, I reckon he's the meanest looking mother on the GC so I am going to join his 1%ers Fourthly..........Scotty "Ours" in the shire, nuff said And Last.......SURFanimal can I have my paddle back obviosuly you have no need for it anymore...........
Yes, but it's still 'ours'.
NSW
859 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 5:28 pm        Report Show Profile
ShireSUP said...
And Last.......SURFanimal can I have my paddle back obviosuly you have no need for it anymore...........
Could be a problem there ShireSUK.
NSW
4055 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 5:38 pm        Report Show Profile
@ leroy, Yep the video is not on the GC it is as you said at Malibu maybe Rincon but definitely in the Us. Supposedly it was the guys 3rd drop in in a row so he got the treatment he deserved, not because he is on a sup because he is a knob. If someone puts the actual link up not just the video it is explained under the clip but I guess misrepresentation of actual facts was better to push someone's point, a bit like the actual article
VIC
2752 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 5:40 pm        Report Show Profile
supanimal said...
ShireSUP said...
And Last.......SURFanimal can I have my paddle back obviosuly you have no need for it anymore...........
Could be a problem there ShireSUK.
Looks like the tribe has spoken.
Vatican City
4214 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 5:46 pm        Report Show Profile
PTWoody said...
supanimal said...
ShireSUP said...
And Last.......SURFanimal can I have my paddle back obviosuly you have no need for it anymore...........
Could be a problem there ShireSUK.
Looks like the tribe has spoken.
Who has immunity ?
NSW
729 Posts
Posted 04/03/2012, 6:15 pm        Report Show Profile
supanimal said...
ShireSUP said...
And Last.......SURFanimal can I have my paddle back obviosuly you have no need for it anymore...........
Could be a problem there ShireSUK.
you environmental vandal..........that was a carbon paddle that had locked that carbon up for at least another 3 months and you go and release into the atmosphere!!!! Just checked was it the GSI or the Ke Nalu
53 Posts
Posted 05/03/2012, 8:20 am        Report Show Profile
sameh said...
let me start by saying that ive surfed short boards for 35 plus years, was competent to good on my day. 2 years ago i started surfing a sup. No choice really, fused vertebrae in my back, too much middle aged spread etc. the option was to give up surfing altogether or hop on a tanker. Now i sup whenever i can and i absolutely love it. however and heres the rub, in spite of 35 years of surfing, including being president of the university boardriders, i will never take a sup into any crowded line up. Never !!! SUPS are just too big and cumbersome to safely surf around other craft. The natural order of things means that in perth there are now defined sup breaks as opposed to the better known short board breaks. SUPS can catch pretty much anything, we dont need to hang out at the traditional breaks. The fundamental reason why we cant and shouldnt surf sups in crowded lineups is that you cannot duck dive a sup like you can a short board or even a much lower volume mal. Inevetably you will end up with 10 to 15 kg of board hurtling through already crowded lineups. In any surf situation where the swell is big you will get caught inside. I dread to think what my 9.6 allwave or even my 8.10 starby would do hurtling behind me in the line up. I know there is a feeling here that we should be able to surf anywhere we like, but i humbly disagree. SUPs were never intended for crowded lineups. as ive said earlier at most beaches in WA there are sup lineups, further down, not as good, a bit fuller etc, but still a blast on a sup. There are obvioulsy guys who rip and can cut it with the shortboarders. These guys are the exception and not the rule. I also think that to surf safely in a crowded line up you need surfing experience. New sup riders are paddlers long before theyre surfers. There is absolutely no way that those guys should be any where near a crowded lineup. Untill we acknowledge that sup awesome as it is has its own place in the surfing world, and that place is away from others riding smaller less dangerous watercraft, then people will rightly get pissed off at us.
I think there is some good sense in this quote-I'm predominantly a shortboarder but really enjoy SUP surfing as well.I guess I'm lucky enough to live in an area where there is a pretty SUP friendly zone(as well as some 'no go' zones)
VIC
602 Posts
Posted 05/03/2012, 8:30 am        Report Show Profile
Your'e absolutely right doc, unfortunately common sense isn't very common!
NSW
984 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 10:11 am        Report Show Profile
I agree with Appsy, for all you guys up there doing it right thing these types of articles suck. A note for SUPanimal. If you ever north side mate, I would like to hear you call Tom, Andre, Juz and the boys kooks as rip the bags out of it, and have a blast at the same time. If you don't like it, don't do it, and don't bag those who dig it.
WA
15849 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 11:57 am        Report Show Profile
Wow what a great read, no need for my input lol
QLD
21490 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 12:27 pm        Report Show Profile
doggie said...
Wow what a great read, no need for my input lol
Come on doggie match the rubbish story with some of your rubbish
WA
15849 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 12:29 pm        Report Show Profile
62mac said...
doggie said...
Wow what a great read, no need for my input lol
Come on doggie match the rubbish story with some of your rubbish
sukanimals girlfriends
QLD
21490 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 1:31 pm        Report Show Profile
Nasty little poodlewhen are you going to come up with some new material Been called all sorts but that was low doggie
WA
15849 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 1:52 pm        Report Show Profile
62mac said...
Nasty little poodlewhen are you going to come up with some new material Been called all sorts but that was low doggie
When I have time, Im working ok?!?
VIC
602 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 2:32 pm        Report Show Profile
So where is the place we can go and pick up those "sexy SUP chicks" you took photos of !! Does the SUK thing mean they wear dentures?? You hang out at all the good places Doggie, the pool, your VDU, this forum, ah what a life... nearly as fulfilling a life as mine!!!! *(Lucky you can still shortboard)
NSW
1576 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 2:36 pm        Report Show Profile
doggie said...
62mac said...
Nasty little poodlewhen are you going to come up with some new material Been called all sorts but that was low doggie
When I have time, Im working ok?!?
More like this methinks
Vatican City
3570 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 2:39 pm        Report Show Profile
I was thinking more like this.
VIC
445 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 2:44 pm        Report Show Profile
CMC said...
I was thinking more like this.
some interesting reading doggie http://www.poodleforum.com/3-poodle-pictures/12410-poodles-their-famous-people-2.html
WA
15849 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 2:56 pm        Report Show Profile
boofy said...
doggie said...
62mac said...
Nasty little poodlewhen are you going to come up with some new material Been called all sorts but that was low doggie
When I have time, Im working ok?!?
More like this methinks
I did say working, not working hard!!
WA
15849 Posts
Posted 06/03/2012, 2:57 pm        Report Show Profile
CMC said...
I was thinking more like this.
Ha Ha
 
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