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Super cruise ship dock is planned for Broadwater Spit - means massive dredging and potential destruction of our surf beaches, canals and marine environment.
"Save Our Spit Alliance" SOS needs your support to like their facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/SaveOurSpits They need 5,000 likes.
Stop any planned cruise ship dredging. Our surf beaches, waterways and marine life bring in far more in tourist dollars and local enjoyment than cruise daytime shippers do.
We care. Like the SOS facebook page and tell as as many people as you know. Post this on your own facebook page.
This is our most potent weapon to fight the powers that don't care.
See the discussions on the SOS website: www.saveourspit.com
SOS facebook: www.facebook.com/SaveOurSpit
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what you talking bout wilis? if they dont dredge the broadwater soon, i will be walking to straddie from my house. the place is one massive sand bank  |
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I understand your own concerns however will this not inject billions of dollars into the GC and lets face it Southport if fked and needs something like this.How many jobs will be gained thousands.Bring it on,just dredge the seaway and inner section for the ships to birth.
The GC is still suffering from the GFC,its the first to be hit and the last to recover.
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a lot of red herrings at the moment- tugun,broad beach,the spit etc.
the powers to be have been told by the people once, yet they keep at it.
the gold coast developer-whoops, i mean the gold coast bulletin are the prime offenders- money talks
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Personally Im all for the cruise terminal and always have been. It will inject much needed millions into the gold coast community and create a whole host of different jobs, both during constructin and in its cruise operations. IMO the terminal is well overdue and should be supported.
Red thumb me all you like - its only my opinion and I love cruising and the goldy is a perfect cruise destination.
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apart from the money to build the thing, where are you guys thinking theses millions of dollars are coming from 
i've been following this for a while. i have not seen any evidence or facts and figures of any returns, rather how much the tourists will not spend. what a cup of coffee and maybe a koala bear. everything they need is on the ship and all ready paid for.
the real money is and always will be our beaches and surf
http://www.businessgc.com.au/GCSCI
http://www.couriermail.com.au/travel/australia/threat-to-surf-breaks-on-the-gold-coast-with-plans-for-a-cruise-ship-terminal/story-e6freqx6-1226430845005
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-03/critics-say-gold-coast-plan-for-cruise-ships-wont/4176236
tate vegas and supporters of the shipping terminal need to get their heads out of the clouds and start working on our disappearing surf breaks and beach protection which are in disarray at the moment.
again -no beach, no surf, no gold coast
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Forget Kirra. In terms of quality surf on a consistent basis, Sth Straddie is the best wave in QLD by miles. Just because it doesn't have the history and glamour of the South end point breaks doesn't mean it's not worth protecting. Not going to see too much support for a Straddie style wave on a SUP forum however. Apart from Jacko and one or two others I've never even seen a SUP over there. Do SUP riders have an aversion to getting barreled? Anyway, bring on the stupid terminal but it'd be madness to destroy the best wave on the Gold Coast.
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MOST Gold Coast residents dont give a ratsars about the surf - their priorities are getting a pay cheque every week, trying to put food on the table, pay bills, coping with the abyssmal roads, lack of public transport, poor health and education facilities and real life stuff.
Yes I am a surfer and I love and care for our beaches as best I can, BUT I know that the Gold Coast needs new jobs, new attractions and some long term vision and economical prospects, and the cruise ships are just one thing that I believe will help the gold coast community as a whole.
I have been on several cruises around the world and can tell you that cruisers DO spend a lot of money onshore and cruise ships are amazing for the community to go and see coming into port and departing and as such will attract lots of interest from far afield.
I am all for protecting our waterways but jeezus, I get so sick and tired of everytime somebody wants to do something commercial there is always so much whining and negativity and its always based on environmental protection etc which is all very nice but at the end of the day whats the point in living in a pristine (gold coast is hardly pristine) environment when none of us have jobs and are all living on government handouts and the crime rate is outta control because nobody can afford to live on the goldy and earn an honest living.
Why don't we complain every single time council approves the building of another rich bastards house along the beachfront or on a canal or other waterway, - surely all these developments have a combined impact on our beaches and surf also.
Anyway just my own personal opinion and I know most will disagree with me but ya get that I guess.
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show us the money |
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as a local paddler to the area this will be great, it all need dredging there's enough shallows through there to build seven shipping terminals
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 ASI said...
Super cruise ship dock is planned for Broadwater Spit - means massive dredging and potential destruction of our surf beaches, canals and marine environment.
"Save Our Spit Alliance" SOS needs your support to like their facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/SaveOurSpits They need 5,000 likes.
Stop any planned cruise ship dredging. Our surf beaches, waterways and marine life bring in far more in tourist dollars and local enjoyment than cruise daytime shippers do.
We care. Like the SOS facebook page and tell as as many people as you know. Post this on your own facebook page.
This is our most potent weapon to fight the powers that don't care.
See the discussions on the SOS website: www.saveourspit.com
SOS facebook: www.facebook.com/SaveOurSpit
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Cruise ships have good wave riding wakes |
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teatrea said...
Cruise ships have good wave riding wakes
and what would BB care anyway he moved to another country 
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These ideas are ironic to say the least.
Why ironic? You have a local government looking to bring in income to the city but not encouraging local business to exist.
Rather than creating stable jobs and business investment to service the growing permanent population they look instead to tourism and gambling as quick fixes.
Wouldn't a better idea be to spend the money on business incubation to encourage people to start real businesses and hire people with long term opportunity?
They have a enonomic development department who themselves believe that council fees actively discourage the inception of business via zonings, approvals, fees, advertising, extended waits for assessment etc etc.
I'm with Lacey, why ruin a beautiful place, threaten our most valuable resources for no substantial local benefit. Rather, invest the money into local business existing and new so that they can keep staff, hire new etc etc.
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^ fair points CMC.
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i agree cmc...but the broadwater still needs to be dredged. then again i can save 6 bucks if they dont and ride my pushy to straddie  |
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Gassa said...
as a local paddler to the area this will be great, it all need dredging there's enough shallows through there to build seven shipping terminals
gassa, so they dredge out your paddling area- whoopie. now have you considered you may very well be banned from paddling any where near the place.
probably will ban crossing the seaway on surfboards too.
ps cmc- you've don't again 
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Flounder said...
Forget Kirra. In terms of quality surf on a consistent basis, Sth Straddie is the best wave in QLD by miles. Just because it doesn't have the history and glamour of the South end point breaks doesn't mean it's not worth protecting. Not going to see too much support for a Straddie style wave on a SUP forum however. Apart from Jacko and one or two others I've never even seen a SUP over there. Do SUP riders have an aversion to getting barreled? Anyway, bring on the stupid terminal but it'd be madness to destroy the best wave on the Gold Coast.
hi, think it's more of a courtesy thing to the short board guys, the same with d/bar.
d/bar is more or less accepted as a no go for sup
cheers
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Lacey you make some good points and those questions and some very important enviro questions would have to be answered before anything should go ahead. But as for dredging the Broard water it is well over due.
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Hi All,
There's a little confusion here about the ship terminal guys so here's some stuff to consider:
1. No one disputes the Broadwater needs dredging for recreational boating safety reasons. No one. The State govt has allocated $30M to do it. We do not need a ship terminal to get this done.
2. The amount of dredging required to get cruise ships which are now 268m plus (many 300m) long - dredged to 12 - 15 metres, is massive. Mr Tate's preferred option seems to be to locate the terminal near SeaWorld on The Spit- his own docs say that means 5.1M m3 of dredging. HUGELY expensive.
3. The dredging required to get these HUGE ships in at the Seaway entrance is 500,000 m3 - this is estimated to cost $12 - 15M every year- alone. This dredging will destroy the famous surf break TOS, which has been valued by Griffith at $20M pa to our economy. This will be lost. And that's before they start paying to strengthen the Seaway walls against the thrusters required to manouvre these boats... if they can get in at all.
4. Even if they - soz WE - pay for ALL this dredging & wall fixing, the turbidity and bad effects upon our marine life - which is substantial in The Seaway (370 species) - will seriously affect both water quality, the ecosystem and marine life. WHY would we do this when the Broadwater is one of our 3 greatest tourism and community assets?
5. Aside from all this ship terminals DO NOT MAKE MONEY! Overseas experts confirm this. Av passenger spend is $64 in most recent WA survey - even using Midwood Report estimate of $70 pp, it is chicken feed compared to the crazy costs of dredging, loss of local industries - diving & surfing, loss of marine life, damage to the ecosystem, etc etc.
6. And finally... what if there is an accident like the Costa Concordia? It would be an environmental disaster in the Broadwater.
Stand up paddle and stand up for your community & our environment too - pls go to www.facebook.com/SaveOurSpit & support us with a 'like'. Any questions please message us any time - thanks :)
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SOSA said...
Hi All,
There's a little confusion here about the ship terminal guys so here's some stuff to consider:
1. No one disputes the Broadwater needs dredging for recreational boating safety reasons. No one. The State govt has allocated $30M to do it. We do not need a ship terminal to get this done.
2. The amount of dredging required to get cruise ships which are now 268m plus (many 300m) long - dredged to 12 - 15 metres, is massive. Mr Tate's preferred option seems to be to locate the terminal near SeaWorld on The Spit- his own docs say that means 5.1M m3 of dredging. HUGELY expensive.
3. The dredging required to get these HUGE ships in at the Seaway entrance is 500,000 m3 - this is estimated to cost $12 - 15M every year- alone. This dredging will destroy the famous surf break TOS, which has been valued by Griffith at $20M pa to our economy. This will be lost. And that's before they start paying to strengthen the Seaway walls against the thrusters required to manouvre these boats... if they can get in at all.
4. Even if they - soz WE - pay for ALL this dredging & wall fixing, the turbidity and bad effects upon our marine life - which is substantial in The Seaway (370 species) - will seriously affect both water quality, the ecosystem and marine life. WHY would we do this when the Broadwater is one of our 3 greatest tourism and community assets?
5. Aside from all this ship terminals DO NOT MAKE MONEY! Overseas experts confirm this. Av passenger spend is $64 in most recent WA survey - even using Midwood Report estimate of $70 pp, it is chicken feed compared to the crazy costs of dredging, loss of local industries - diving & surfing, loss of marine life, damage to the ecosystem, etc etc.
6. And finally... what if there is an accident like the Costa Concordia? It would be an environmental disaster in the Broadwater.
Stand up paddle and stand up for your community & our environment too - pls go to www.facebook.com/SaveOurSpit & support us with a 'like'. Any questions please message us any time - thanks :)
Thanks for the informative post SOSA. Great info.
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The official council response received today.............
While Council respects your views on this matter, it is our intent to pursue the proposal to develop this facility on the Gold Coast. To date, Council has considered a number of locations and is currently looking at three sites; inside the Broadwater to the north of Seaworld, Wave Break Island and a southern option. Naturally the social, environmental and economical outcomes of any such proposal will need to be considered as part of this process.
In the short term we are proceeding with a Navigational Simulation Assessment to ensure appropriately sized vessels can navigate the Broadwater as well as an Economic Analysis to ensure the facility provides an adequate return on investment for the city.
Should you have any further queries in relation to this project, please don't hesitate to contact Council's Manager Major Projects, Mr Darren Stewart, on (07) 5581 7763.
Kind regards,
Wayne Moran
Chief of Staff
Office of the Mayor
Gold Coast City Council
Ph: 07 5581 5244 Fax: 07 5581 6054
PO Box 5042 Gold Coast Mail Centre Qld 9729
www.goldcoastcity.com.au
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can someone tell me why the spit which was developed in the mid 80s is such a no go zone for development now .
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