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I'm looking for one (ad in Wanted), but I thought it might also be an interesting topic.
In Europe they apparently had a Div 2 regatta last month. http://www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21988
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I don't have one but if circumstances fell into place I'd race lechners again for sure. Those boards are high-performance machines and an awesome test of smarts and technique, far more credible than the retarded, worst-of-both-worlds olympic train wreck that is currently making windsurfing look stupider than necessary. Sure, they'll only appeal to a minority of sailors but for that minority either lechners or open divII is the perfect class. And for reasonably skilled riders they make excellent sub-planing recreational boards.
There must be a few dozen divII boards sitting in garage roofs across Australia. Come on hoarders, fess up.
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I still use my Davison div ii with an 8.5. Usually after a spell of hot weather and light wind. Great fun to cruise on - on rail and hooked in with 8 knots of wind. Bloody wet though compared to slalom wave board. Also still use Mistral One design also for cruising up coast and back.
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someone find me a Crit D2.  |
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Would someone be willing to build a new Div 2 board? Couldn't an established dinghy/skiff builder knock one up pretty easily in foam/carbon? It would be a lot simpler than even a Moth.
I found this tantalising lead, but nothing more, on the website of Bloodaxe, who make high-performance dinghies in the UK. Look under One-Offs, bottom right. http://homepages.wightcable.net/~apaterson/frames.htm
I'm definitely not a home builder, but if my budget for a new Starboard or Exocet raceboard is going to be $3K or more, I'd be willing to spend the same on a new Div 2 for sure.
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Timber is also an option. Back in the 80s several guys were making timber displacement boards to race in the "construction" class as it was known.
I was thinking (yonks ago now) of doing one with a central stringer of timer that was sandwiched to become a double stringer either side of the centreboard case. Then make a bulkhead every foot or so and wrap thin ply around that. The deck would be thicker ply with a bit of wrap at the rails, varnish the inside as you go, then a layer of glass and reo over the outside. Was the simplest DIY method I came up with, and very repairable.
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greenleader said...
someone find me a Crit D2.
Funny, Crit in general was such piece of crap, but their D II was quite nice to handle.
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djdojo said...Come on hoarders, fess up.
I ain't no hoarder, I NEED more than one Div 2 board! 
They don't have as much of an edge over Raceboards now that Raceboards are carrying 9.5s, but then again you can get good light wind speed from a Div 2 board with a smaller sail.
Three of us (Pat, Glen and I) in NSW have sometimes raced our Lechners - Glen and I were on ours at the Illawarra 8 hour and had no issues leading early on,although my sail was stuffed because both cambers fell off the 8.5 and my boom was too short - that's what happens when you drag a board and rig out once every couple of years.
Great boards, and someone like Dolly Divola could knock up some for about the price of a new Raceboard one would think.
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Dartboy. That's a nice board. Does anyone know what it is? Better yet, does anyone have the moulds in their back yard!
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Yep it's a Jim French Dart .
Not mouldedfrom a female mould . Dyvinicell formed over a male mould.pretty much built like a dinghy or skiff. Lachlan Gilbert has it now . He is in Sydney somewhere.
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What about a serenity class
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Little Jon said...
What about a serenity class
We don't hear much about those since the original product launch.
Many of them in your area really ?
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Exocet is coming up with a new D2 board with the following spec:
The goal is to have a fun and efficient board for light wind conditions but still able to get planing and perform well.
Upwind the board gets on its rail naturally in almost no wind (the main goal) without being as extreme as older D2 boards that were "barrel" like and quite narrow. A modern board that offers fun sensations being comfortable in all directions.
The rocker is typical, an inverted 'thruster' going round and finishing on a V at the back. A flatter middle section similar to a more 'conventional' planing board for planing ability.
Getting on the plane is real quick and it is easier to get in the straps than a typical raceboard as it is wider at the back and a more natural position off the wind.
In decent wind, 25 knots should be accessible for most sailors...
This board will be registered in the raceboard class as well.
Enjoy,
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i have one in the roof of the garage & ric has one under the house might use it one day
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Did Wayler make a Div 2 board ? If so, i know of one hanging in a carport close to my place.... I could safely say it hasn't been used in the last 10 or more years that i have noticed.
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The Windsurfing Shed said...
Exocet is coming up with a new D2 board with the following spec:
The goal is to have a fun and efficient board for light wind conditions but still able to get planing and perform well.
Upwind the board gets on its rail naturally in almost no wind (the main goal) without being as extreme as older D2 boards that were "barrel" like and quite narrow. A modern board that offers fun sensations being comfortable in all directions.
The rocker is typical, an inverted 'thruster' going round and finishing on a V at the back. A flatter middle section similar to a more 'conventional' planing board for planing ability.
Getting on the plane is real quick and it is easier to get in the straps than a typical raceboard as it is wider at the back and a more natural position off the wind.
In decent wind, 25 knots should be accessible for most sailors...
This board will be registered in the raceboard class as well.
Enjoy,
Remi
VERY COOL REMI
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Are any of the other manufacturers thinking the same way as Exocet?
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NO wet dreams said...
Did Wayler make a Div 2 board ? If so, i know of one hanging in a carport close to my place.... I could safely say it hasn't been used in the last 10 or more years that i have noticed.
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Saw 2 of them at the recycling tip few (6?) month ago was at Tamala park Clarkson!
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Hi Guys,
I'm glad to find some fans of Div II boards in this forum. We need troops at the time we are trying to revive this serie...because, YES, this is what we are trying to do!
Where are the Div II boards? There are almost back
First, click here on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=123929387624580#!/group.php?gid=123929387624580&v=photos
Second, join the group (just ask to join) and start browsing the forum, check the pics and video.
Those of you who still have their Lechner, Davidson, Crit D2, etc...upload your pics and share your experience. Everyone speaks english. We have members from the US, the UK, Irland, Germany..Greece, Canada...more than 240 members now.
About the event recently organized in Strasbourg, France, check the pics of the race, also on my friend's blog:
http://pavdivision2.blogspot.com/2011/05/rassemblement-open-plobsheim-deux.html
If you need help, ask me...
Answering some of your questions on this page,
- Yes, we can still find some Div II, even Crit D2 (the gold standard of Div II)
- Yes Wayler made a Div II. So if you've found one in your neighbor's garage, please, rescue it quickly. No need to build a new one (No so easy by the way)
Look forward to further chat with you guys.
Cheers
Eric |
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wet dreams, i don't remember a Wayler Div2, i do recall the Wayler, Shark, Chipper, YPSI, Fencer, Breeze. Around here, the fastest guy in Div1 sailed an original Wayler with a custom centreboard and 6.8 sail. have a look at the one down the road, if it is polyethelene and weighs a ton, then its probably the same board.
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Djdjo,
I even never seen a Wayler, but I have been told that this one is a Wayler Div II...It looks like.
http://www.windpowerwindsurfing.com/gallery/picture.php/161-26-walleye/category/7-2010_walleye_wagatta |
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that boards appears in a few photos, don't know what it is, looks like a displacement board of some sort...
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One of the two d2 sailors that was a regular at the club in the 80s dropped around yesterday he still has his eliminator in his shed at home
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Guys,
To challenge the Exocet above, there is this; don't be confused: None of them are Div II, rather a kind of hybrid.
Check the link and the video. No doubt it is very performant.
http://www.waterhound.com/windsurfing/gear-report/2676-ahd-tactik-windsurfer-designed-for-zero-to-fifteen-knots.html |
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Why didn't they make it a decent length? Its only 320 long, I think.
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I have two Lechners in the shed - a '92 model and an '88 model - both in good nick. The mast track and centre board slot are a little further aft on the 92 model. Both are great fun to sail and a real challenge in 15 knots +. I sail one in the lighter winds at club racing most Saturdays in the summer and they are very hard to beat upwind. The board carries big sails surprising well - I've used a formula 10.7 quite succesfully, but normally use my raceboard 9.5 sail.
Just like a raceboard delivers a different windsurfing enjoyment to a formula board, the Lechner delivers something different again. I love the challenge and the "pureness" of the experience - it certainly exposes your sailing weaknesses!!
Remi - great to see the vision of the new Exocet board. It is good that some manufacturers are returning to (and perhaps improving) some successful concepts from the past.
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