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Created by bigmtn > 9 months ago, 17 Jun 2020
bigmtn
51 posts
17 Jun 2020 6:46AM
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I just picked up a Signature Albatross 210 from a buddy. I know that most of the Signature wings are the same as the Unifoil wings, just wondering if they are all the same, or only certain models. Anyone know which are the same/different? Also do the Uni wings fit on a the Signature masts, and vice versa?

foilsunnycoast
QLD, 8 posts
11 Oct 2020 8:10PM
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Hi bigmtn

I have recently become the importer for Signature Foils Australia. I realise this is an old post, I thought I would respond anyway . Unifoil and Signature do share a few of the same wing designs in there lineup that were designed by Clifford from Unifoil . The Unifoil Vortex 175 And Signature Stealth 175 are the same .
The Unifoil hyper 210 and the Signature Albatross 210 are the same . Apart from that there other models are different . Unifoil have the Hyper 210,190,170,150
Signature have the Albatross 250,210,165

Unifoil Vortex 150,175
Signature Stealth 175,200

Signature have now brought out another line of wings called the Game Changer which is a mid aspect wing and a great all rounder .

Both brands now have a modular fuselage although they will not interchange .

The mast connection joint is the same and all wings will interchange as far as I'm aware .

I'm Happy to answer any questions when it comes to Signature Foils .
Robbie 0401 774 448

martyman
WA, 314 posts
2 Jul 2021 11:15AM
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foilsunnycoast said..
Hi bigmtn

I have recently become the importer for Signature Foils Australia. I realise this is an old post, I thought I would respond anyway . Unifoil and Signature do share a few of the same wing designs in there lineup that were designed by Clifford from Unifoil . The Unifoil Vortex 175 And Signature Stealth 175 are the same .
The Unifoil hyper 210 and the Signature Albatross 210 are the same . Apart from that there other models are different . Unifoil have the Hyper 210,190,170,150
Signature have the Albatross 250,210,165

Unifoil Vortex 150,175
Signature Stealth 175,200

Signature have now brought out another line of wings called the Game Changer which is a mid aspect wing and a great all rounder .

Both brands now have a modular fuselage although they will not interchange .

The mast connection joint is the same and all wings will interchange as far as I'm aware .

I'm Happy to answer any questions when it comes to Signature Foils .
Robbie 0401 774 448


I'm confused, you say in one sentance that they wont interchange-then in the next say that they do. Can you clarify please?

Piros
QLD, 6890 posts
2 Jul 2021 1:57PM
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martyman said..

foilsunnycoast said..
Hi bigmtn

I have recently become the importer for Signature Foils Australia. I realise this is an old post, I thought I would respond anyway . Unifoil and Signature do share a few of the same wing designs in there lineup that were designed by Clifford from Unifoil . The Unifoil Vortex 175 And Signature Stealth 175 are the same .
The Unifoil hyper 210 and the Signature Albatross 210 are the same . Apart from that there other models are different . Unifoil have the Hyper 210,190,170,150
Signature have the Albatross 250,210,165

Unifoil Vortex 150,175
Signature Stealth 175,200

Signature have now brought out another line of wings called the Game Changer which is a mid aspect wing and a great all rounder .

Both brands now have a modular fuselage although they will not interchange .

The mast connection joint is the same and all wings will interchange as far as I'm aware .

I'm Happy to answer any questions when it comes to Signature Foils .
Robbie 0401 774 448



I'm confused, you say in one sentance that they wont interchange-then in the next say that they do. Can you clarify please?


The early stuff is interchangable but not the later models

foilsunnycoast
QLD, 8 posts
2 Jul 2021 7:33PM
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martyman said..

foilsunnycoast said..
Hi bigmtn

I have recently become the importer for Signature Foils Australia. I realise this is an old post, I thought I would respond anyway . Unifoil and Signature do share a few of the same wing designs in there lineup that were designed by Clifford from Unifoil . The Unifoil Vortex 175 And Signature Stealth 175 are the same .
The Unifoil hyper 210 and the Signature Albatross 210 are the same . Apart from that there other models are different . Unifoil have the Hyper 210,190,170,150
Signature have the Albatross 250,210,165

Unifoil Vortex 150,175
Signature Stealth 175,200

Signature have now brought out another line of wings called the Game Changer which is a mid aspect wing and a great all rounder .

Both brands now have a modular fuselage although they will not interchange .

The mast connection joint is the same and all wings will interchange as far as I'm aware .

I'm Happy to answer any questions when it comes to Signature Foils .
Robbie 0401 774 448



I'm confused, you say in one sentance that they wont interchange-then in the next say that they do. Can you clarify please?


Hi Martyman

Yes I probably should have worded it better.

So basically what I was saying is the modular fuselage is not compatible to be changed (SPG to Uni) but the mast connection is . The mast connection joint is still the same shape but the screw size has changed. SPG V1 has M8 screws (same as Unifoil ) and the V2 SPG has M6 screws. This allows for smaller inserts in the mast leaving more surrounding carbon making it stronger. The carbon has always been the weak point not the screw . I have M6 insets to suit the V1 mast that are pretty simple to swap out.
V1 SPG and Unifoil will exchange
V1 SPG / Unifoil will exchange with V2 SPG if the mast inserts are swapped over and it still allows for either type of front wing to be used.

Hope this clarifies things. It is dam confusing at times.

martyman
WA, 314 posts
4 Oct 2021 1:42PM
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foilsunnycoast said..

martyman said..


foilsunnycoast said..
Hi bigmtn

I have recently become the importer for Signature Foils Australia. I realise this is an old post, I thought I would respond anyway . Unifoil and Signature do share a few of the same wing designs in there lineup that were designed by Clifford from Unifoil . The Unifoil Vortex 175 And Signature Stealth 175 are the same .
The Unifoil hyper 210 and the Signature Albatross 210 are the same . Apart from that there other models are different . Unifoil have the Hyper 210,190,170,150
Signature have the Albatross 250,210,165

Unifoil Vortex 150,175
Signature Stealth 175,200

Signature have now brought out another line of wings called the Game Changer which is a mid aspect wing and a great all rounder .

Both brands now have a modular fuselage although they will not interchange .

The mast connection joint is the same and all wings will interchange as far as I'm aware .

I'm Happy to answer any questions when it comes to Signature Foils .
Robbie 0401 774 448




I'm confused, you say in one sentance that they wont interchange-then in the next say that they do. Can you clarify please?



Hi Martyman

Yes I probably should have worded it better.

So basically what I was saying is the modular fuselage is not compatible to be changed (SPG to Uni) but the mast connection is . The mast connection joint is still the same shape but the screw size has changed. SPG V1 has M8 screws (same as Unifoil ) and the V2 SPG has M6 screws. This allows for smaller inserts in the mast leaving more surrounding carbon making it stronger. The carbon has always been the weak point not the screw . I have M6 insets to suit the V1 mast that are pretty simple to swap out.
V1 SPG and Unifoil will exchange
V1 SPG / Unifoil will exchange with V2 SPG if the mast inserts are swapped over and it still allows for either type of front wing to be used.

Hope this clarifies things. It is dam confusing at times.


It's like a riddle. Will the Game changer front wing thing fit onto a uni-foil system-(m6-m8 bolts aside)?



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