Beware Buy/Sell Scam

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CJF91
CJF91
WA
26 posts
WA, 26 posts
9 Sep 2010 9:50pm
Hey guys i just found out before it got to far on myself that there is a scammer that is going through the Seabreeze listings of Boats and maybe more.

I received a text message asking if the boat was still available and to email her on [email protected]

The email i received back was:
Hello,Thanks for the swift reply, What is your asking price and i want youto get back to me with more pictures because i am not available at themoment, i am in Malaysia and i will be using the boat here in Malaysia.I will be handling the pick up of this merchandise through alegitimate shipping agent that has their headquarter situated inMalaysia . Please note that i will not be needing the boatregistration because it will be invalid over here so please remove theregistration. The boat will be picked up after you receive the fullpayment, so i really need to know the mode of payment because i needthis boat urgently. Hope to read from you asap. Sophia

After typing her email adress into google i found that it is the exact same email she has used to scam many car sellers
Try it and see if you dont beleive me just be careful with what you put over the internet

here is another related forum
forum.gumtree.com.au/post-21503.html
whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/60122375403/2

Thanks for your time all Stay safe
CJF91
CJF91
WA
26 posts
WA, 26 posts
9 Sep 2010 9:55pm
Also the email [email protected] just came through pretty sure its the same deal
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
9 Sep 2010 9:57pm
If it sounds to good to be true ....it always is....
This scam is put up on the net in a thousand different ways every day
and their English is sooooooooooooooooo good! Not
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
CJF91
CJF91
WA
26 posts
WA, 26 posts
9 Sep 2010 10:08pm



Yeah that forum sums it up pretty much what happened to us
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
9 Sep 2010 11:49pm
So what exactly is the scam, your obviously not going to let the boat go without payment, and if you think your being scamed get them to pay through paypal then your both protected.
GypsyDrifter
GypsyDrifter
WA
2371 posts
WA, 2371 posts
9 Sep 2010 11:11pm
waxman said...

So what exactly is the scam, your obviously not going to let the boat go without payment, and if you think your being scamed get them to pay through paypal then your both protected.


Hi waxman....I would never except paypal from this type of buyer...Paypal so called protection is crap and over the years...with even giving them photo's of items sent and receipts from the post office they have given back large sums of my money back to my buyers that say they have not got the goods. It's a good scam if you know what you are doing.
CJF91
CJF91
WA
26 posts
WA, 26 posts
10 Sep 2010 9:58am
waxman said...

So what exactly is the scam, your obviously not going to let the boat go without payment, and if you think your being scamed get them to pay through paypal then your both protected.


I believe they use fake pay pal and counterfit pay pal emails so when they ask you to set up a pay pal account you arn't giving pay pal the details you are giving them your bank details. hence how they steal your money
r_puig
r_puig
WA
6 posts
WA, 6 posts
10 Sep 2010 10:23am
Just got an offer from [email protected] - hmmm not sure about this one... any suggestions? ignore? Any advice? Very sad

"Hello,Thanks for the mail,How i wish to view the add,but due to my job i cant make it cos am an oceanographer busy on an assignment and presently now am in Bermuda coast on a ship...So i close to use PayPal because of the distance between us...I hope you can read this mail an understand me better...Please if you don't have PayPal account yet,It is easy to set up,just log onto www.paypal.com and get it set up...And i will only need the e-mail address which you use in registration with PayPal.

As for the pick up,my pick up agent will be accessing that and they will also be coming for the pick up immediately the payments have been made to you..Please send me your address so that my pick up agent can figure it out and come for the pick up and other necessary things after the payments have been made,they will also be coming with all the information needed,my details and transferring the name of ownership to me will be done by the pick up agent so you don't have to worry about that.Send me your registered email address with PayPal so i can pay in.

Thanks.............'s"
Poodle
Poodle
WA
868 posts
WA, 868 posts
10 Sep 2010 11:06am
r_puig said...

Just got an offer from [email protected] - hmmm not sure about this one... any suggestions? ignore? Any advice? Very sad

"Hello,Thanks for the mail,How i wish to view the add,but due to my job i cant make it cos am an oceanographer busy on an assignment and presently now am in Bermuda coast on a ship...So i close to use PayPal because of the distance between us...I hope you can read this mail an understand me better...Please if you don't have PayPal account yet,It is easy to set up,just log onto www.paypal.com and get it set up...And i will only need the e-mail address which you use in registration with PayPal.

As for the pick up,my pick up agent will be accessing that and they will also be coming for the pick up immediately the payments have been made to you..Please send me your address so that my pick up agent can figure it out and come for the pick up and other necessary things after the payments have been made,they will also be coming with all the information needed,my details and transferring the name of ownership to me will be done by the pick up agent so you don't have to worry about that.Send me your registered email address with PayPal so i can pay in.

Thanks.............'s"


We received same scam from that email. Of course I never touch paypal. My approach was to set up an "empty" stand alone account, and give swift, BSB & aco**** number details. So they could not get anything. I also had my banker keep a careful eye on it. A quick internet search showed it to be a scam - Not sure exactly how they get your $$$, probably some fake paypal account to get bank details. We just closed the empty account & walked away. They did keep emaling us for a while.

Sad really, I though I'd sold my old yacht to some dodgey malaysian gun runners or drug smugglers!!

poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
10 Sep 2010 11:15am
Get the punter to come and see the items for sale.
No see no sale - unless you know them via Seabreeze or they put the cash in your account first.

Don't be motivated by a quick sale and $$.
r_puig
r_puig
WA
6 posts
WA, 6 posts
10 Sep 2010 11:20am
I have notified Pay Pal about this case, for their info...

Cheers all
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
10 Sep 2010 1:21pm
I had a scammer try to get my net bank login details, I was out so did a search to find the net bank login and attempted to log in. But it said accounts frozen contact bank.
I then realised the address bar was one letter short, the page looked identical. i quickly loged on to the real net bank and changed my login password. Luck i realised what was going on, if i ignored it and contacted my bank there would be a chance everything i had would be gone..

The internet is a great place for getting a deal but you do need to protect yourself, i use a separate account linked to pay pal mostly now, and keep records of all receipts etc.

I have always been mindful of the saying, buyer beware, but these days its more like seller be warned. What a world we live in.
laurie
laurie
QLD
3901 posts
QLD, 3901 posts
10 Sep 2010 8:17pm
As many holes as we plug in the site, they find new ones, and, as in real life, you must take care.

Thanks for alerting us about this character...
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23684 posts
WA, 23684 posts
10 Sep 2010 6:28pm
I don't really see a problem - like Poor Relli said. This site is not like eBay it is local and safe as the intent of the buy and sell is to let members buy and sell stuff. I have no issues with selling anything on here to an aussie who has been an active member of seabreeze for a while (lets say couple of months).
The advantage is we all sell large items that are in most cases not suitable for freight, and are sold to real enthusiasts who will want to look at the item or ask technical questions.

The scammers are obvious here unlike on ebay / gumtree / whatever

Then again, when some perosn from overseas wiht poor english tries the "I have all my money tied up so I will send you $5K in travellers cheques for your $1K item and you refund me the difference" ........ if you get stung you deserve to be stung. With some of the retards out there who fall for that I seriously don't know how they made it to 30 or 40 or 50 years old when they fall for that stuff.
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