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Boracay closed to tourists

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Created by worrier 1 month ago, 7 Apr 2018
worrier
WA, 719 posts
7 Apr 2018 7:35AM
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So Duterte has closed the cesspool of Boracay to tourists for up to 6 months to get it all cleaned up. Sewage etc pumping straight into the ocean, unregulated buildings and all the **** that goes with it. He threatened them about 6 weeks ago and it sounds like they didn't believe he would follow through.
Wonder if the Indo boss would have the balls to do this in Bali or too much money lost.

edition.cnn.com/2018/04/04/asia/philippines-duterte-boracay-shutdown-intl/index.html

orac
QLD, 19 posts
9 Apr 2018 9:55PM
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Wow. Great spot but close your mouth. Really grossed us out the obvious sewage spewing out while we where there at the "world class kiting' location. It's actually pretty small space for all those kiters.

psychomub
111 posts
10 Apr 2018 5:48AM
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The same thing needs to happen in Bali.

I walked along the beach from Kuta to Seminyak last year, and it smelt like an open sewer the whole way.

worrier
WA, 719 posts
10 Apr 2018 4:55PM
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yeah he's talkin about the same thing on couple of other islands as well. El Nido etc.
Pretty hard on the locals for a while but worth it in the long run.
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hilly
WA, 4136 posts
10 Apr 2018 6:49PM
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You realise Bali is not in the Philippines
Bali rubbish on the beach comes from Java in our summer. I went in January it was feral, but in July not too bad in Kuta. Offshore winds made a difference. There are too many people in the world.

mazdon
767 posts
11 Apr 2018 9:43PM
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hilly said..
You realise Bali is not in the Philippines
Bali rubbish on the beach comes from Java in our summer. I went in January it was feral, but in July not too bad in Kuta. Offshore winds made a difference. There are too many people in the world.


There has been raw sewerage going straight in the sea from cliff locations near Uluwatu for decades. Depends on sea conditions and time of year as to whether you'll notice it.

the rubbish on the beaches come from their own rivers flushed out on the monsoonal rains (our summer) as you said. It just piles up in the canals where they throw it (when not burning it) in the dry season, hence why it's less dirty looking in the water April-sept.

The problem is huge and super sad.
and I've only looked at travelling to Boracay (no waves, opted out), but looking just on scale, the financial cost of pulling that Duterte move to sort Bali out would surely be orders of magnitude greater.

psychomub
111 posts
12 Apr 2018 7:51AM
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hilly said..
You realise Bali is not in the Philippines
Bali rubbish on the beach comes from Java in our summer. I went in January it was feral, but in July not too bad in Kuta. Offshore winds made a difference. There are too many people in the world.


Uhh, yes. I have spent more time in SE Asia than you could even imagine.

Bali is an open sewer regardless of where the rubbish comes from.

worrier
WA, 719 posts
12 Apr 2018 8:03AM
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yeah I stopped surfin in Bali about 10 years ago for 2 reasons, the smell of **** all over me when I came in from a surf and the second wave of bombings.
Will probably go back at some stage but in no hurry.
I work in the Philippines and they have their own set of issues with rubbish etc, I just thought it was a pretty gutsy decision to make.

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K21
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23 Apr 2018 11:57PM
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Well its good that he is trying to clean it up but sad that the place (Boracay) is already completely spoilt.
I was there several times in the 90's for the Funboard Cup and it was just magic.
Kiteschools and a golf course killed it

japie
QLD, 4038 posts
24 Apr 2018 8:50AM
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hilly said..
You realise Bali is not in the Philippines
Bali rubbish on the beach comes from Java in our summer. I went in January it was feral, but in July not too bad in Kuta. Offshore winds made a difference. There are too many people in the world.


There are not too many people in the world.

If you reduced the population by say 50% there would presumably be 50% less pollution. So we continue to pollute but we just do it at a slower rate.

The end result will be the same, just takes longer to achieve it.

The problem does not lie with the number of people. It lies with the way we do things. Our economic models do not take into consideration the degradation of the environment so the environment gets degraded with little or no consideration.

The solution is to change the way we do things.

Rails
QLD, 1085 posts
24 Apr 2018 7:56PM
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That right Japie- the real problem is what the market, and the politicians it sponsors sell us, unlimited consumption of nature in a finite world.

We are collectively the Once-ler and our habits are getting worse not better as we accelerate towards the Olduvian cliff.

rockmagnet
QLD, 991 posts
24 Apr 2018 9:02PM
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Rails said..
That right Japie- the real problem is what the market, and the politicians it sponsors sell us, unlimited consumption of nature in a finite world.

We are collectively the Once-ler and our habits are getting worse not better as we accelerate towards the Olduvian cliff.




A UK article I read recently states that if the US turned vegan, they could feed an extra 390 million people. Not that it is ever going to happen but it shows what a huge difference changing our ways would make. Consumerism is not making us better off, it's destroying us.



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