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Corona Virus - We are all going to get it.

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Created by Crusoe 3 months ago, 12 Mar 2020
FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 9:01AM
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Rupert said..
psychojoe said..
Less than 0.01 percent of the world's population has died from or with covid, or some other form of corona that the test's don't distinguish.
More deaths please.

Begin hate...Now


From a disease that didn't exist a year ago. Half a million recorded deaths in 6 months, many in countries with relatively high hygiene standards and sophisticated health care facilities and no one knows how many in lesser developed regions.

And petermac33 provides more wonderful insight by posting another youtube clip without any personal input, just like he does on every thread where he has nothing, lucky for all us healthy specimens that it's all just a hoax and this "flu" cant hurt us, eh petie? Why dont you use your brain and start thinking for yourself just this once


Rupert I am sure it would be 'just 0.1%' if the numbers fit that, or 'only 1% of us have died' if it were worse. I guess the fundamental thing that we cannot ignore is that these guys are not after truth or accuracy, they are after something that says 'no, see, we were right, all you other people are sheep'.

Ian K
WA, 3311 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 8:33AM
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In this entire thread this is where we are at and it's pretty damn scary.


Scary for the economy maybe but look at it in lost man-years rather than death and it's no more scary than driving the car. Choose the US figures as one of the countries badly effected by the virus that's releasing reasonable data.

Average age of death by Corona virus is about 70. (Check the data on the internet, vary if necessary) . 125,000 deaths in 4 months that will be 400,000 in a one year interval. Average age expectancy is 80, that's 4million man years to be lost due to Corona.

They lose 30,000 in the US a year due to motor vehicle accidents. Average age is 30 (Check the stats on the web and adjust if you want.) That's 30,000 times 50 lost man years = 1.5 million man years lost in 12 months.

1.5M motor cars vs. 4.0M corona. But then maybe you should weight the years. Would you rather lose the year between 70 and 71 or 30 and 31?. And then for each car fatality there are multiple permanent disabilities. Without adequate exercise and community engagement people die prematurely. You'd easily double that 1.5.

I'd conclude motor accidents are a comparable hit but we're not going to suffer the economic downturn that would result if we reduced the road toll by limiting them to essential service only, ie. no driving to recreation, walk please.

Rupert
TAS, 2783 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 12:01PM
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Ian K said; "I'd conclude motor accidents are a comparable hit "




Maybe a realistic comparison would be if all motor vehicle accident fatalities had occurred in the last six months with no reported incidents . prior.

Maybe you could compare with deaths from electrocution, I'm betting there were no reported cases of death by electrocution prior to 1800. Or you may have noticed a couple of thousand years ago death by sword strike was rather prevalent, not so common nowadays.

psychojoe
VIC, 760 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 12:25PM
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When it comes down to brass tacks
The population increases by over 1% each year
It this wonderful virus starts killing 100 times more people than it currently is, it might just solve the overcrowding problem we have on this planet

Mr Milk
NSW, 2041 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 12:37PM
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It currently seems to kill about 5% of diagnosed cases, so your dream might come true.
So far, 10M cases is about 0.15% of global population. Say twice as many go undiagnosed and we're left with 99.5% of the world's population being virgins to the disease.

FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 2:44PM
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psychojoe said..
When it comes down to brass tacks
The population increases by over 1% each year
It this wonderful virus starts killing 100 times more people than it currently is, it might just solve the overcrowding problem we have on this planet


You don't understand the overcrowding problem at all if you think this is going to solve it.

If anything, it could make it worse. Do you want me to walk through the logic or are you happy to reject it straightaway?

petermac33
WA, 6242 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 12:58PM
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Around 60 to 80 thousand deaths a year in the U.S according to the C.D.C and barely a ripple of publicity or concern in the media.

edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html

hilly
WA, 5355 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 1:06PM
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petermac33 said..
Around 60 to 80 thousand deaths a year in the U.S according to the C.D.C and barely a ripple of publicity or concern in the media.

edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017--2018-cdc-bn/index.html



USA 2020 Covid 128k and climbing even with their lock down.

petermac33
WA, 6242 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 1:13PM
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Admitted in the U.S figures - if you die with covid not of covid you are counted in the official figures which makes the 127K figure look so artificial.

And the flu deaths are ongoing.

psychojoe
VIC, 760 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 3:43PM
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FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..
When it comes down to brass tacks
The population increases by over 1% each year
It this wonderful virus starts killing 100 times more people than it currently is, it might just solve the overcrowding problem we have on this planet



You don't understand the overcrowding problem at all if you think this is going to solve it.

If anything, it could make it worse. Do you want me to walk through the logic or are you happy to reject it straightaway?


You must have me confused with someone else.
And whilst I'm unlikely to align with your take on overcrowding, I still wanna read it. Could be good.

FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 4:25PM
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psychojoe said..
FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..
When it comes down to brass tacks
The population increases by over 1% each year
It this wonderful virus starts killing 100 times more people than it currently is, it might just solve the overcrowding problem we have on this planet



You don't understand the overcrowding problem at all if you think this is going to solve it.

If anything, it could make it worse. Do you want me to walk through the logic or are you happy to reject it straightaway?


You must have me confused with someone else.
And whilst I'm unlikely to align with your take on overcrowding, I still wanna read it. Could be good.


Do you think we are overcrowded in Australia? I don't. I think there is just the right amount of people, but birth rates seem to be declining.

Similarly in most developed nations, birth rates are declining. People are just getting to the point where they don't want to have large families anymore and are choosing to have smaller families or waiting too late to try and have families.

Given that the increase in population is coming from somewhere, its obviously the developing world that's creating them. Why would you have a large family if you live in a dirt poor area where you struggle just to get enough for yourself? Because you have no social security so your kids need to look after you in your old age, and your kids might die too young to be able to do that. Have more kids and it increases the chances that you will be taken care of.

Now throw Covid19 into the mix and watch people around you die, and you get even more worried about having children to survive long enogh to look after you in your old age.

Despite the people that seem to misunderstand Bill Gates' approach to saving the world, he is arguing that improving health care in these developing areas is a way to decrease the populations. No need for nefarious vaccines to kill off people, he wants them to live, and by letting a greater chance of them living to productive age, the need to have larger families falls.

I think after Covid19 goes through some of these areas, probably killing off more of the elderly than anyone else, there will be an increase in population growth.


About mistaking you for someone else, yeah, it happens a lot. I'm not even sure who I am most of the time.

psychojoe
VIC, 760 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 4:49PM
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Well, I like your spiel FN.
Unsurprisingly I won't agree until I see it play out in reality, if I get the chance.

Rupert
TAS, 2783 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 4:53PM
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petermac33 said..
Admitted in the U.S figures - if you die with covid not of covid you are counted in the official figures which makes the 127K figure look so artificial.

And the flu deaths are ongoing.


Why don't you drop this effing fixation with the Flu you blockhead, Covid19 is NOT the Flu and it is NOT an effing Hoax! If you have PROOF otherwise that it is please notify the authorities and the media, post a dopey youtube clip, tell Henry and all your other demi Gods and the rest of the world how you know this. You do this then all the politicians, medicos and scientists on the planet will beat a path to your door and shower you in riches.

Bottom line is you don't know squat, you are just regurgitating crap that you have read on the internet. You carried on about Mr Gates but have refused to answer my question just what proof you have to substantiate whatever it is you're accusing him of 5 times now.

This disease did not exist a year ago! The 127.000 deaths in the US and 500,000+ worldwide have all occurred in the last 6 months. Countries are scrambling and spending millions of dollars in an attempt to develop a vaccine that you and the rest of the Pro Diseasers wont have (Good more for those who will have it). But it's all a ploy to make big pharma a ****load of money and propel the illuminati lizard mob to their ultimate goal - World Domination of the NWO. Fair Dinkum, you're barking mad.

Malaria is a big killer worldwide, should you die from malaria your heart stops beating. So cause of death must be Cardiac arrest. Yeah, don't worry about the malaria, it didn't kill anyone, his heart stopped beating, alternatively, malaria causes your heart to stop, Covid19 cause your heart to stop beating, so they must be the same thing.


kiterboy
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Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 4:59PM
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psychojoe said..
Well, I like your spiel FN.
Unsurprisingly I won't agree until I see it play out in reality, if I get the chance.


You lack commitment to your convictions. Be part of the solution you want to have happen.

petermac33
WA, 6242 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 8:38PM
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The smirk on his face at 10 seconds is a give away. Interesting they decided to turn off the comments?


FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 10:44PM
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petermac33 said..
The smirk on his face at 10 seconds is a give away. Interesting they decided to turn off the comments?


I think they stop that because people do become all emotional. It would be like someone like me getting onto a Henry Mackow video and having a go at him and insulting him and making fun of the people that believe his drivel.

Therefore, you understand why they would disable the comments. Like anything on the internet, the most vocal will be the ones with something they want to say, me included!

FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 10:49PM
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petermac33 said..
The smirk on his face at 10 seconds is a give away. Interesting they decided to turn off the comments?



Oh my, you really have to be spoon fed don't you?

Don't you feel a little bit insulted, even just a tiny bit, that someone has to cut that interview down to 29 seconds and even then repeat the section so that you don't miss it? They must assume the viewers are dumb or something?

My guess, based on what their reactions are, both Bill and Melinda, is that the host or someone off camera did something funny, which is why he smirked, and then later both of them laughed and smiled. Clearly, obviously, and not even attempting to hide it, so its very unlikely they had anything they wanted to hide.

With all his money, you would think Bill would get his own interviews done by his people and release them instead of using regular journalists? Sort of like how that big crazy church goes and releases their own propoganda, and they stage manage things.

If Bill can't buy that sort of production with his Billions, he is shopping in the wrong place.

petermac33
WA, 6242 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 9:07PM
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Bill Gates is being promoted like our new saviour. Fortunately the majority are not falling for his lies.

I would not trust that piece of filth to inject any concoction of chemicals in to my body.

FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 11:11PM
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petermac33 said..
Bill Gates is being promoted like our new saviour. Fortunately the majority are not falling for his lies.

I would not trust that piece of filth to inject any concoction of chemicals in to my body.


Yeah, well lucky for us, he is happy to spend his billions on people, even knowing that they will be ungrateful for it, and in some cases will think he is the devil.

Still, in society we have to cater for dumb people too, so what can you do about it?

Mr Milk
NSW, 2041 posts
Tuesday , 30 Jun 2020 11:35PM
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I guess PM33 pays the premium price to belong to the Apple cult.

Rupert
TAS, 2783 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 6:55AM
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petermac33 said..
Bill Gates is being promoted like our new saviour.

Fortunately the majority are not falling for his lies.

I would not trust that piece of filth to inject any concoction of chemicals in to my body.


Even a five year old knows that Henry Makow is our "new saviour".

Fortunately the majority are aware that Henry Makow is a false God and is a fraud.

What are YOU accusing Mr Gates of? What PROOF or EVIDENCE do YOU have to support your accusations?

It is highly unlikely Mr Gates would want to inject you with ANYTHING, in fact he would probably not want to be within cooee distance of a nutter like you.

psychojoe
VIC, 760 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 7:02AM
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I don't buy into the whole Gates conspiracy thing.
But I can see where it may stem from.
Gates bought a considerable amount of shares in Monsanto, the most evil company on the planet.

holy guacamole
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Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 6:00AM
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Pm33 sure as hell gets the trolls on this website really fired up.

Sorry, I meant REALLY FIRED UP!

Rupert
TAS, 2783 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 8:38AM
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holy guacamole said..
Pm33 sure as hell gets the trolls on this website really fired up.

Sorry, I meant REALLY FIRED UP!


Scared that he's taken your title Bono? You must try harder.




holy guacamole
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Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 6:40AM
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Rupert said..




holy guacamole said..
Pm33 sure as hell gets the trolls on this website really fired up.

Sorry, I meant REALLY FIRED UP!




Scared that he's taken your title Bono? You must try harder.





Scared? How ridiculous!

What title Rupert?

And who the fark is bono FFS?

Gotta say, whenever I see these posts where trolls claim not to be interested I take it as the exact opposite. I reckon inside you're actually fuming.

Sorry, I mean FUMING*.

*Bold and randomised CAPS doesn't mean I'm angry.

As for trying harder I think not. Seems to be working fine on one troll at least.

Pugwash
WA, 7276 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 7:06AM
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holy guacamole said..
Rupert said..




holy guacamole said..
Pm33 sure as hell gets the trolls on this website really fired up.

Sorry, I meant REALLY FIRED UP!




Scared that he's taken your title Bono? You must try harder.





Scared? How ridiculous!

What title Rupert?

And who the fark is bono FFS?

Gotta say, whenever I see these posts where trolls claim not to be interested I take it as the exact opposite. I reckon inside you're actually fuming.

Sorry, I mean FUMING*.

*Bold and randomised CAPS doesn't mean I'm angry.

As for trying harder I think not. Seems to be working fine on one troll at least.


Bono was an infamous, over-emotional forum user/troll. He kept getting banned and was eventually banned permanently as he couldn't control himself when sharing his right opinion from a position of self-proclaimed superior intelligence. I'm pretty tolerant, so I found him interesting - some of the time.

I understand he drove a Skoda in the real world, probably to project a sense of calm and try to stay cooler on the roads than he could on a forum.

Bono left such a mark on this place that when new users come along that are inflammatory, those user(s) are sometimes referred to as bono.

psychojoe
VIC, 760 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 9:46AM
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I like Skodas, had one for a hire car in Poland. That little thing sat comfortably on 160.
I'm so disenfranchised with the whole VW group now after it took them 7 tries to replace a leaky fuel tank under warranty that I don't even think I could buy another Audi even though my last Audi was my favourite car ever.
What was the topic again?
Where am I?

FormulaNova
NSW, 11064 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 11:31AM
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Pugwash said..

holy guacamole said..

Rupert said..





holy guacamole said..
Pm33 sure as hell gets the trolls on this website really fired up.

Sorry, I meant REALLY FIRED UP!





Scared that he's taken your title Bono? You must try harder.






Scared? How ridiculous!

What title Rupert?

And who the fark is bono FFS?

Gotta say, whenever I see these posts where trolls claim not to be interested I take it as the exact opposite. I reckon inside you're actually fuming.

Sorry, I mean FUMING*.

*Bold and randomised CAPS doesn't mean I'm angry.

As for trying harder I think not. Seems to be working fine on one troll at least.



Bono was an infamous, over-emotional forum user/troll. He kept getting banned and was eventually banned permanently as he couldn't control himself when sharing his right opinion from a position of self-proclaimed superior intelligence. I'm pretty tolerant, so I found him interesting - some of the time.

I understand he drove a Skoda in the real world, probably to project a sense of calm and try to stay cooler on the roads than he could on a forum.

Bono left such a mark on this place that when new users come along that are inflammatory, those user(s) are sometimes referred to as bono.


Is that what happened to him? Are you sure? I thought he self censored himself from heavy weather as he was trying to get it closed down and then kept coming back. Almost like campaigning for heroin to be illegal and then coming back for another hit because you had to.

Maybe Meth is a closer analogy?

I do agree with your last comment though. When a new user gets on here and immediately seems to know everyone and has the same viewpoints, I just think to myself 'oh wow, another Bono'.

Pugwash
WA, 7276 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 10:04AM
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FormulaNova said..

Pugwash said..


holy guacamole said..


Rupert said..






holy guacamole said..
Pm33 sure as hell gets the trolls on this website really fired up.

Sorry, I meant REALLY FIRED UP!






Scared that he's taken your title Bono? You must try harder.







Scared? How ridiculous!

What title Rupert?

And who the fark is bono FFS?

Gotta say, whenever I see these posts where trolls claim not to be interested I take it as the exact opposite. I reckon inside you're actually fuming.

Sorry, I mean FUMING*.

*Bold and randomised CAPS doesn't mean I'm angry.

As for trying harder I think not. Seems to be working fine on one troll at least.




Bono was an infamous, over-emotional forum user/troll. He kept getting banned and was eventually banned permanently as he couldn't control himself when sharing his right opinion from a position of self-proclaimed superior intelligence. I'm pretty tolerant, so I found him interesting - some of the time.

I understand he drove a Skoda in the real world, probably to project a sense of calm and try to stay cooler on the roads than he could on a forum.

Bono left such a mark on this place that when new users come along that are inflammatory, those user(s) are sometimes referred to as bono.



Is that what happened to him? Are you sure? I thought he self censored himself from heavy weather as he was trying to get it closed down and then kept coming back. Almost like campaigning for heroin to be illegal and then coming back for another hit because you had to.

Maybe Meth is a closer analogy?

I do agree with your last comment though. When a new user gets on here and immediately seems to know everyone and has the same viewpoints, I just think to myself 'oh wow, another Bono'.


Look, the number of skoda driving windsurfers from somewhere south of Melbourne that draw beach houses for a living is crazy high... there's at least 4, maybe 5, on this website alone. The fact that they have similar political views and posting styles is just a coincidence and that style fits the demographic of middle-aged skoda driving, southern european-descended, house drawer windsurfers... Could be thousands of bonos like that all around Victoria, sorry, Sicktoria

Rupert
TAS, 2783 posts
Wednesday , 1 Jul 2020 12:21PM
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Pure coincidence. Although HG claims not to live in the "Plague State".



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