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Created by slide A week ago, 8 Aug 2019
slide
8 posts
8 Aug 2019 5:19AM
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it shrinks cancer, it stops the shaking in ms , its stops epileptic fits , is there anything important I missed, hi all , my first post , I thought i'd keep it low key at the start then work up from there

quikdrawMcgraw
1157 posts
8 Aug 2019 5:30AM
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it shrinks cancer, it stops the shaking in ms , its stops epileptic fits , is there anything important I missed, hi all , my first post , I thought i'd keep it low key at the start then work up from there


I'm all for it, cannabis oil cannabis butter cannabis muffins buds hash etc etc it's all good.

eppo
WA, 7154 posts
8 Aug 2019 8:17AM
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The proposed health affects are irrelevant. Can the government and their string pullers make money and will it be accepted by the voting electorate. The latter ultimately being influenced slowly but surely by the media, controlled by the string pullers. Watch the information flow increasingly directed towards these supposed positive health affects. Then you will know legalisation is just around the corner. Meanwhile the clever corporate foxes are positioning themselves behind the scenes to cash in once the law is changed.

Positive health affects - they don't give one Fck about them.

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
8 Aug 2019 11:36AM
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I have some very shaky hands. The doctors said i would have to take a pill everyday for the rest of my life to stop them shaking. Everyone who knows me knows its just cause im guilty.

AJEaster
NSW, 663 posts
8 Aug 2019 12:42PM
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It sure does work for me. Posted below is my experience from the other thread entitled Cannabis Debate.

I take Full Extract/Spectrum Cannabis Oil (FECO) mixed in coconut oil for my migraines. I would normally get 1-2 migraines a fortnight with all the vomiting and head pain/sound and aural sensitivities, which knocked me down for 1-2 days off work each time. I tried all of the Pharma options (including opiates), and they didn't help with pain/duration/prevention at all.

I did a heap of research on FECO for probably 6 months before jumping in, and started oral dosage of FECO and a separate batch of CBD Oil in April 2019. Migraines are down to 1 migraine every 8 weeks, so it certainly works, and mind you I am still tinkering with my dosage with the aim of minimising them further. I only take it at night and I sleep like I am dead.............best sleep in my 47 years of living.

quikdrawMcgraw
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8 Aug 2019 11:15AM
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It sure does work for me. Posted below is my experience from the other thread entitled Cannabis Debate.

I take Full Extract/Spectrum Cannabis Oil (FECO) mixed in coconut oil for my migraines. I would normally get 1-2 migraines a fortnight with all the vomiting and head pain/sound and aural sensitivities, which knocked me down for 1-2 days off work each time. I tried all of the Pharma options (including opiates), and they didn't help with pain/duration/prevention at all.

I did a heap of research on FECO for probably 6 months before jumping in, and started oral dosage of FECO and a separate batch of CBD Oil in April 2019. Migraines are down to 1 migraine every 8 weeks, so it certainly works, and mind you I am still tinkering with my dosage with the aim of minimising them further. I only take it at night and I sleep like I am dead.............best sleep in my 47 years of living.



Good for you AJeaster, yours is deemed medical and legal or you doing this yourself?

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
8 Aug 2019 1:49PM
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What about guilt? Did the guilt go away? Or the shame?

I need a priest


But seriously why not cbd?
Is feco cbd?

slide
8 posts
8 Aug 2019 2:47PM
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thx for replys - check out , dr peter mcormick's work , from the uea Norwich, 2012 search this "can cannabis oil shrink brain tumours"
and I have been told I will shrink all cancers , there is a lot of info on the internet about the medical benefits of cannabis oil , check it out ,our controllers can not hide this from us forever , and why ? the health service could save millions

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
9 Aug 2019 12:27AM
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thx for replys - check out , dr peter mcormick's work , from the uea Norwich, 2012 search this "can cannabis oil shrink brain tumours"
and I have been told I will shrink all cancers , there is a lot of info on the internet about the medical benefits of cannabis oil , check it out ,our controllers can not hide this from us forever , and why ? the health service could save millions


2 posts and he already figured out i have helpers looking after me

AJEaster
NSW, 663 posts
9 Aug 2019 6:17PM
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AJEaster said..
It sure does work for me. Posted below is my experience from the other thread entitled Cannabis Debate.

I take Full Extract/Spectrum Cannabis Oil (FECO) mixed in coconut oil for my migraines. I would normally get 1-2 migraines a fortnight with all the vomiting and head pain/sound and aural sensitivities, which knocked me down for 1-2 days off work each time. I tried all of the Pharma options (including opiates), and they didn't help with pain/duration/prevention at all.

I did a heap of research on FECO for probably 6 months before jumping in, and started oral dosage of FECO and a separate batch of CBD Oil in April 2019. Migraines are down to 1 migraine every 8 weeks, so it certainly works, and mind you I am still tinkering with my dosage with the aim of minimising them further. I only take it at night and I sleep like I am dead.............best sleep in my 47 years of living.




Good for you AJeaster, yours is deemed medical and legal or you doing this yourself?


Quickdraw, I am not ill enough to get the legal medical stuff. That is so hard to be part of, and so expensive from all reports I have seen, depsite being legal.
Mine is made by a lovely lady down the road, it is affordable and wonderfully effective for me, and very soon she is educating me on how to make my own (reduces her own risk). She uses a slightly different method to that popularised by Rick Simpson (popularly known as RSO, or Rick Simpson Oil), so I am looking fwd to learning and having the satisfaction of making my own.

AJEaster
NSW, 663 posts
9 Aug 2019 6:35PM
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What about guilt? Did the guilt go away? Or the shame?

I need a priest


But seriously why not cbd?
Is feco cbd?


FECO (Full Extract Cannabis Oil) is the full extract from the plant containing all cannabinoids, flavonoids and terpenes from the Cannabis plant. This oil contains THC which is the psychoactive component of the plant when smoked. THC is the pain killer and can be registered on a roadside drug test. FECO is fantastic for pain and a whole bunch of nasty things such as MS, Parkinson's, and cancerous tumour reduction to name a few. I personally know a lady with MS, and another with Parkinson's who get remarkable results using FECO.

CBD Oil contains only one isolated cannabinoid, CBD. CBD is great for depression, sleep, anxiety and other things.

515
255 posts
9 Aug 2019 4:51PM
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Hi Slide,

Welcome to Seabreeze. I checked out your profile and understand your recent journey and your love of living life to its fullest.
I have friends with MS and seen dementure with mother in law.
Life isn't fair but oil can make a difference to the quality of sufferers.
In NZ our politicians are currently debating our laws and hope they see sense.
Peace out

Kite285
QLD, 97 posts
9 Aug 2019 7:52PM
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As we are talking about the 'truth', are there any credible studies that prove cannabis heals or helps sick people? Credible studies I mean. If someone uses cannabis and it helps them, then they should definately use it, whether it's legal or not. Whether anyone thinks it works or not, use it, definately use it. I don't have a bias against or for it particularly. I smoked heaps of it years ago but don't see the point of it any more personally, yet if I wasn't well, perhaps I would?? Yet there seems to be far more claims of medicinal benefits than there is studies to support the benefits.

Just saying again, I think people should definately use it if they are truly benefiting from cannabis, regardless of whether the cops say you can or can't.

The theory about the government not being able to tax it effectively isn't a reason to keep it illegal. Revenue from pot sales tax would be neglegable compared to the savings in Medicare outgoings if cannabis was the wonder drug some people claim it to be. The government would be more than happy for a wonder drug to help so many people and keep costs down.

cauncy
WA, 7395 posts
9 Aug 2019 9:50PM
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I have some very shaky hands. The doctors said i would have to take a pill everyday for the rest of my life to stop them shaking. Everyone who knows me knows its just cause im guilty.


I'd recommend putting them around ya knob so not wasted

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
9 Aug 2019 11:51PM
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I compressed my vertabraes a fair wack and had like a chunk of bome missing made my spine look like a jigsaw. Was on a heap or tramadol etc that worked.

Tried smoking dope for the back pain... Did nothing... Was just stoned with a broken back. So im unsure why all these claims of pain relief are from etc but its so commonly said i just assume im the freak lf nature and everyone else had a different experience where it cured them.

The trammys worked! By god take a few tramadols and a bottle wine and you can realllly go places its like ketamine

cauncy
WA, 7395 posts
9 Aug 2019 9:58PM
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As we are talking about the 'truth', are there any credible studies that prove cannabis heals or helps sick people? Credible studies I mean. If someone uses cannabis and it helps them, then they should definately use it, whether it's legal or not. Whether anyone thinks it works or not, use it, definately use it. I don't have a bias against or for it particularly. I smoked heaps of it years ago but don't see the point of it any more personally, yet if I wasn't well, perhaps I would?? Yet there seems to be far more claims of medicinal benefits than there is studies to support the benefits.

Just saying again, I think people should definately use it if they are truly benefiting from cannabis, regardless of whether the cops say you can or can't.

The theory about the government not being able to tax it effectively isn't a reason to keep it illegal. Revenue from pot sales tax would be neglegable compared to the savings in Medicare outgoings if cannabis was the wonder drug some people claim it to be. The government would be more than happy for a wonder drug to help so many people and keep costs down.



In my case my lower spine is rooted through hard wear and tear in the forces , heavy impact landings , constant loading , the neuro surgeon said it'll have to be welded together/ fusion, when it goes I wouldn't wish the pain or discomfort on anyone, I take a strong anti inflammatory , clonac 50, but farks with your organs and head, I've been trying a drop of cannabis oil under the tongue each night
and hand on heart it's been miraculous , just ordered another bottle from us and it's been stuck in customs for 10 days so unlikely I'll see it, so back on the tablets, Eppo's correct to a T, and it's driven from the highest levels

quikdrawMcgraw
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10 Aug 2019 8:22AM
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I compressed my vertabraes a fair wack and had like a chunk of bome missing made my spine look like a jigsaw. Was on a heap or tramadol etc that worked.

Tried smoking dope for the back pain... Did nothing... Was just stoned with a broken back. So im unsure why all these claims of pain relief are from etc but its so commonly said i just assume im the freak lf nature and everyone else had a different experience where it cured them.

The trammys worked! By god take a few tramadols and a bottle wine and you can realllly go places its like ketamine


Ingestion has different effects than smoking, smoking mainly cerebral

slide
8 posts
10 Aug 2019 4:52PM
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and it is not addictive , I started a new job years ago and had 6 months off of it , with no problems , and it will not kill you like other drugs if you overdose (what proof do I have ?), several years ago a friends brother went to the usa for a holiday , and he wrapped some hash in shrink wrap a swollowed it expecting to retrieve it when he arrived in the us, but it opened up in his stomach and I said was he allright ? and his sister said he was fine , just really stoned for a few days
can cannabis, send you mental ((we hear this all the time in the uk,from the doubters), only if if was in you anyway , ganja, exaggerates feelings
when you are stoned ,(I have known hundreds of stoners and not one has had problems) .and indesting or vaping oil is something I love because I have played guitar since I was 12 , 57 now, and playing when I've had a few beers is ****e and sounds rough and clumbsy, yet with some ganja I am gentle, feeling and play at my best -you really get into it

I can not see any reason why it isn't allowed everywhere in every country, I see it as helpful not harmful ,proberly best not to smoke anything tho , I know that from family loss , smoking anything is evil on yourself especially long term, its when you get cancer you regret some parts of your previous life style
just vape it or digest it......lol , I hope i'm putting a smile on some of ya face's , as you can see, I've spent 2/3 0f my life learning about it , despite what our controllers force on us

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
11 Aug 2019 8:05AM
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When you say controllers it makes you sound like a nutjob and loose credibility

I personally hate the restrictiveness of this country to many regulations etc etc but i dont call the government our controllers or large companys our controllers

If i want to break a law ill just break it

If i dont want to buy or use something i just wont buy or use it

The only real "controller" in my life is seabreeze mods and you can buy them off with pictures of dogs in sailors hats





So dont get too hung up on that **** its a big country with plenty of places to hide.

As for me my broken back and trying weed. Yeah i definitely smoked it and it did nothing for the pain so i guess ill try eating it next time. Kind of vital information wonder what my housemate was thinking she must have been too stoned to remember that part


slide
8 posts
11 Aug 2019 2:24PM
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I was referring to the people who make our laws , the politicians , who don't want to do anything about cannabis as a medicine
in the last 2 years we have heard many stories of young children who suffer many epileptic fits every day , the Victoria deryshire show featured this a lot and the law makers said ok we will allow cannabis oil on precriptions when these children need it to stop these fits , they said go to your doctor and he or she will sort it , but it hasn't happened , and parents are still having going to go to ampsterdam to get the oil themselves , so there you go , that's why they control us , cause they are scared of it ,because they know it will be the start of a Canada type situation and they don't want that - that's what I mean by control , after the touching story's of children suffering , still, the oil is not being allowed for medical purpose's

plz don't pick holes in my threads , I have come to this forum to disscuss a miracle medicine and it is a miracle use's , and of course the medical drug makers don't want its legalisation cause they make huge amounts of money selling their medicines-plz don't take the piss out of my remarks or jump on certain words I use -you knew what I meant , didn't you ?

I only want to disscuss facts not hearsay -and let me ask you this - do you not think its control , there is massive proof of cannabis and its medical use's but still we are no further forward, those who make our laws still call cannabis a drug , which it is not -cocaine is huge in the uk being sniffed in the pub toilets and being mixed with lots of achohol , it is out of control ,its everywhere . cannabis is a herb that has been used for at least 8000 years-my first post said the truth , and I stand by my remarks about cannabis oil is a miracle medicine , that is still denied for the seriously ill when it could help them , its mad and unfair for the people suffering , and that could be so different

and on a lighter note , I love dogs , I have a beagle that is 7 and he still barks when he gets excited , I thought he might lose that as he grew up but no, I have had 4 dogs since I was 18 , some big ones , my beagle is called tommy and his bark is the loudest , not the deepest but the loudest , and everytime people ,friends,the post man, just anybody at the door come round he starts

boofta
NSW, 136 posts
11 Aug 2019 4:34PM
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Long-term cannabis use can have many effects on an individual:Brain: Impaired concentration, memory and learning ability.Lungs: Smoking cannabis can result in a sore throat, asthma and bronchitis.Hormones: Cannabis can affect hormone production. Research shows that some cannabis users have a lowered sex drive. Irregular menstrual cycles and lowered sperm counts have also been reported.Immune system: There is some concern that cannabis smoking may impair the functioning of the immune system.Mental health: Cannabis use, especially heavy and regular use, may be linked to a condition known as a "drug-induced psychosis", or "cannabis psychosis".There is some evidence that regular cannabis use increases the likelihood of psychotic symptoms in people who are already vulnerable due to a personal or family history of mental illness. Cannabis also appears to make psychotic symptoms worse for people with schizophrenia, and using cannabis can lower the chances of recovery from a psychotic episode.



poor relative
WA, 8993 posts
11 Aug 2019 3:32PM
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I was referring to the people who make our laws , the politicians , who don't want to do anything about cannabis as a medicine
in the last 2 years we have heard many stories of young children who suffer many epileptic fits every day , the Victoria deryshire show featured this a lot and the law makers said ok we will allow cannabis oil on precriptions when these children need it to stop these fits , they said go to your doctor and he or she will sort it , but it hasn't happened , and parents are still having going to go to ampsterdam to get the oil themselves , so there you go , that's why they control us , cause they are scared of it ,because they know it will be the start of a Canada type situation and they don't want that - that's what I mean by control , after the touching story's of children suffering , still, the oil is not being allowed for medical purpose's

plz don't pick holes in my threads , I have come to this forum to disscuss a miracle medicine and it is a miracle use's , and of course the medical drug makers don't want its legalisation cause they make huge amounts of money selling their medicines-plz don't take the piss out of my remarks or jump on certain words I use -you knew what I meant , didn't you ?

I only want to disscuss facts not hearsay -and let me ask you this - do you not think its control , there is massive proof of cannabis and its medical use's but still we are no further forward, those who make our laws still call cannabis a drug , which it is not -cocaine is huge in the uk being sniffed in the pub toilets and being mixed with lots of achohol , it is out of control ,its everywhere . cannabis is a herb that has been used for at least 8000 years-my first post said the truth , and I stand by my remarks about cannabis oil is a miracle medicine , that is still denied for the seriously ill when it could help them , its mad and unfair for the people suffering , and that could be so different

and on a lighter note , I love dogs , I have a beagle that is 7 and he still barks when he gets excited , I thought he might lose that as he grew up but no, I have had 4 dogs since I was 18 , some big ones , my beagle is called tommy and his bark is the loudest , not the deepest but the loudest , and everytime people ,friends,the post man, just anybody at the door come round he starts


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I dont believe that there is a miracle cure all cure for everyone to rid the world of all its disease type solution.
I dont believe in selling false hope to those that need life prolonging treatment.

Cannabis oil/CBD etc no doubt has its place but the medical nerds need to research and study it, run clinical trials and work out exactly what it treats and how it treats it before it is unleashed on the community.
A dr's reluctance to prescribe it often isn't based around the legalities its because of the lack of valid peer reviewed research.

slide
8 posts
11 Aug 2019 4:01PM
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I did wonder if the topic was a good idea , but I thought people should know , but there you go , never mind , bye all

slide
8 posts
11 Aug 2019 4:01PM
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I did wonder if the topic was a good idea , but I thought people should know , but there you go , never mind , bye all

eppo
WA, 7154 posts
11 Aug 2019 5:10PM
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slide said..
I was referring to the people who make our laws , the politicians , who don't want to do anything about cannabis as a medicine
in the last 2 years we have heard many stories of young children who suffer many epileptic fits every day , the Victoria deryshire show featured this a lot and the law makers said ok we will allow cannabis oil on precriptions when these children need it to stop these fits , they said go to your doctor and he or she will sort it , but it hasn't happened , and parents are still having going to go to ampsterdam to get the oil themselves , so there you go , that's why they control us , cause they are scared of it ,because they know it will be the start of a Canada type situation and they don't want that - that's what I mean by control , after the touching story's of children suffering , still, the oil is not being allowed for medical purpose's

plz don't pick holes in my threads , I have come to this forum to disscuss a miracle medicine and it is a miracle use's , and of course the medical drug makers don't want its legalisation cause they make huge amounts of money selling their medicines-plz don't take the piss out of my remarks or jump on certain words I use -you knew what I meant , didn't you ?

I only want to disscuss facts not hearsay -and let me ask you this - do you not think its control , there is massive proof of cannabis and its medical use's but still we are no further forward, those who make our laws still call cannabis a drug , which it is not -cocaine is huge in the uk being sniffed in the pub toilets and being mixed with lots of achohol , it is out of control ,its everywhere . cannabis is a herb that has been used for at least 8000 years-my first post said the truth , and I stand by my remarks about cannabis oil is a miracle medicine , that is still denied for the seriously ill when it could help them , its mad and unfair for the people suffering , and that could be so different

and on a lighter note , I love dogs , I have a beagle that is 7 and he still barks when he gets excited , I thought he might lose that as he grew up but no, I have had 4 dogs since I was 18 , some big ones , my beagle is called tommy and his bark is the loudest , not the deepest but the loudest , and everytime people ,friends,the post man, just anybody at the door come round he starts



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I dont believe that there is a miracle cure all cure for everyone to rid the world of all its disease type solution.
I dont believe in selling false hope to those that need life prolonging treatment.

Cannabis oil/CBD etc no doubt has its place but the medical nerds need to research and study it, run clinical trials and work out exactly what it treats and how it treats it before it is unleashed on the community.
A dr's reluctance to prescribe it often isn't based around the legalities its because of the lack of valid peer reviewed research.


Research? Literally used since recorded history doesn't count I suppose. Need to pump it into some lab rats and monkeys to make sure. Peer research ... blah. More like big pharma" patent pending potential research.

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
11 Aug 2019 8:55PM
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I asked an investment banker from the states who was on a holiday in cairns about bitcoin and he said well you know what they say when your barber butcher and baker are all talking about investing in the same thing dont go effing near it.

CBD oil is the bitcoin of 2019

And this nutjob is probably a bot. Why would his icon be a flysurfer soul?! Its like... Screaming HAY IM ONE OF YOU!! You can trust me!!

Very inorganic. Clearly if he was a real seabreezer itd be of a god damn gollywog

I got $50 says "slide" is a AI to pump cbd sales .... SLIDE ... flysurfer soul.... First post...

Ill raise it to $100 if he can select all the squares with a street light in them

Why would a LANDBOARDER from united kingdom be posting here?!? And solely about this?

Its bananas

Then the weird begging not to be called out on **** thing... Sounds very american to me.... An englishman would have scoffed down a pastie and told me to bollocks off ya bobby pinned womble or something


And then the BYE ALL never to return so any future readers can google search and itll display for eternity as some sort of credible research...

amirite
238 posts
11 Aug 2019 8:57PM
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not a conspiracy theory
if you have proof

poor relative
WA, 8993 posts
Monday , 12 Aug 2019 8:50AM
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I'm all for something that helps treat or alleviate suffering.
...and if CBD oil can do that then bring it on.
However to say it cures all is wrong without significant research, clinical trials and peer review of said research.
and to say its been around for 100's of years as a successful treatment?? again did we have the knowledge of disease that we do today 100's years ago? Mortality rates suggest not.

FlySurfer
NSW, 3999 posts
Monday , 12 Aug 2019 11:59AM
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Why would his icon be a flysurfer soul?

What ya talkin bout Willis?
Cannabidiol main benefit for my condition is muscle relaxation, it's no where near as effective as some opiods, but Drs would prefer to see you disabled at home and in pain than to prescribe them to you now and you develop tolerance very quickly.

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However to say it cures all is wrong without significant research, clinical trials and peer review of said research.

Knock yourself out www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=cannabidiol

evlPanda
NSW, 8750 posts
Monday , 12 Aug 2019 3:35PM
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FECO (Full Extract Cannabis Oil) is the full extract from the plant containing all cannabinoids, flavonoids and terpenes from the Cannabis plant. This oil contains THC which is the psychoactive component of the plant when smoked. THC is the pain killer and can be registered on a roadside drug test. FECO is fantastic for pain and a whole bunch of nasty things such as MS, Parkinson's, and cancerous tumour reduction to name a few. I personally know a lady with MS, and another with Parkinson's who get remarkable results using FECO.


HASH (H-a-sh)

causehecan
QLD, 553 posts
Tuesday , 13 Aug 2019 7:56AM
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Gibson

Slide your not from australia so this is what we do to people who shrink cancer around here.

We let them hide theyre millions of dollers made from ripping off cancer sufferers then we give them welfare payments while they go on holidays abroad in designer clothes then we deduct like $20 a week off theyre 500 or so that they get from welfare to pay off theyre $400000 fine.


But seriously anyone who says they can help with cancer and doesnt have 100% proof is praying on the desperate sick and dieing and im surprised everyone else is just COOL with you claiming this bull**** on your first post.

Either you dont realise how dumb you are or your a monster who doesnt care



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