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Kite Flipped inside out

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Created by paperfolder 4 months ago, 14 Mar 2018
paperfolder
QLD, 9 posts
14 Mar 2018 7:13PM
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Background:
Event 1 ( late last year)
front stalled 17m, mid air kite flips inside out, unsure what to do, flew it back to shore.
Event 2 (today Southern end Goldie)
crashed 10m on the surf, set wave hits kite, relaunched inside out, flying it back to shore. Kite crashes again and relaunched back to normal, but now right front line and right center lines are twisted.

Q.: is there a sound way of "Unflipping" the kite in the water? Will it always come back with lines twisted?

Plummet
4203 posts
14 Mar 2018 6:49PM
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I've chucked em back in the water and pulled a front line till it flipped back. Not sure its an actual technique. Just me trying **** whilst floating in the ocean.

pulling the safety and resetting might have the same effect. But i havent tried it.

cauncy
WA, 6097 posts
14 Mar 2018 7:10PM
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I hated this with my Naish PARK
inside out I was flying a KRAP

bramber
VIC, 38 posts
14 Mar 2018 11:11PM
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Doesnt flying it inside out f**k the kite?

theDoctor
NSW, 4327 posts
15 Mar 2018 1:25AM
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Most naish kites fly better that way

VRBones
115 posts
15 Mar 2018 5:30AM
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Flying inside out puts a lot of stress on the inside seams of the leading edge. Popped my 10m once from this. Better to punch out and grab one steering line to let the kite flag out and settle.

crakas
QLD, 362 posts
15 Mar 2018 7:34AM
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Paperfolder,

For the inversion, try hitting the safety, flag the kite out, resetting and relaunching. As for the crossed lines, it happens and usually the safest thing to do is to fly it back to the beach, land it and re-rig.

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paperfolder
QLD, 9 posts
15 Mar 2018 1:01PM
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crakas said..
Paperfolder,

For the inversion, try hitting the safety, flag the kite out, resetting and relaunching. As for the crossed lines, it happens and usually the safest thing to do is to fly it back to the beach, land it and re-rig.

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Thanks for the tips, will give this a go if needed.

paperfolder
QLD, 9 posts
15 Mar 2018 1:05PM
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VRBones said..
Flying inside out puts a lot of stress on the inside seams of the leading edge. Popped my 10m once from this. Better to punch out and grab one steering line to let the kite flag out and settle.


I didn't know that it would be that bad, don't get me wrong I new that it wasn't doing any good either. However, it was a split sec decision. So it raises another question:

What has the potential to cause greater damage to the kite, flying it inside out or letting it cope 3-5ft waves untill out of impact zone?

cheers

G

paperfolder
QLD, 9 posts
15 Mar 2018 1:07PM
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Plummet said..
I've chucked em back in the water and pulled a front line till it flipped back. Not sure its an actual technique. Just me trying **** whilst floating in the ocean.

pulling the safety and resetting might have the same effect. But i havent tried it.


Thanks mate, appreciate the advice. When I crashed I was on the impact zone 3-5ft surf. Had to make a call in a split second.
next time I will try and fly it past the break and flag it.
cheers

VRBones
115 posts
15 Mar 2018 3:42PM
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What has the potential to cause greater damage to the kite, flying it inside out or letting it cope 3-5ft waves untill out of impact zone?


Hard call as both are bad. If you're talking outright damage, waves can completely trash a kite whereas if it pops from inversion it's likely to be localized to the failure point. If flying inverted, try to limit the stress on the kite by depowering as much as possible. Maybe get the kite up out of the wave zone and body drag in?

Ragzilla
VIC, 237 posts
16 Mar 2018 1:58AM
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Two most common ways the kite inverts is-
1- not redirecting the kite during a jump, and making the kite stall as you pendulum / swing underneath.
2- crashing the kite, and continuing to ride..... Making the lines slack and causing invert. (Most common)

You can just punch out and let the kite flag all the way.
It'll pull the LE upwind and get the inversion out every time......... but its 50/50 whether your front lines are wrapped around the rear lines.

In lightwind, if they're all twisted you can sometimes unhook and counter-invert the bar.
Its a f@#! around but!..
Majority of the time its easier to head in and fix it up.

Give'r a shot next time....

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 628 posts
16 Mar 2018 10:39AM
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Depends on the kite too. Bigger kites need probably a lot more air to hold their shape better. Next time, try and pump an extra 10-15 pumps. Really pump the kite hard to the point of you not being able to bend one of the wing tips. Just don't crash it though!



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