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Link to lifejacket/pfd rule review

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Created by alverstone 24 days ago, 29 May 2017
Matt988
WA, 113 posts
29 May 2017 9:45AM
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Am I reading that right? Jet skis don't need it but a kiter and poley do?

Bara
WA, 175 posts
29 May 2017 10:39AM
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yep and flares if more than 400m from land

farcical eh?

Bara
WA, 175 posts
29 May 2017 10:51AM
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and a bucket for bailing too.

Matt988
WA, 113 posts
29 May 2017 10:56AM
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Bara said..
yep and flares if more than 400m from land

farcical eh?

Plenty of under deck storage on my twin tip for all the gear. From looking at the rest of the survey jet skis and kiters are mixed up.

Piros
QLD, 4646 posts
29 May 2017 1:08PM
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Bara said..
and a bucket for bailing too.


and oars.....

Bara
WA, 175 posts
29 May 2017 1:08PM
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Piros said..

Bara said..
and a bucket for bailing too.



and oars.....


no not in wa. oars not necessary. had some fun on the feedback survey though. encourage all to get involved.

Gazuki
WA, 488 posts
29 May 2017 1:39PM
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Bara said..
and a bucket for bailing too.


I always take a few buckets before kiting ;)

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1186 posts
29 May 2017 2:16PM
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Deffo worth responding to. I think they have mixed up the current legislation. Am pretty sure you don't need an anchor and oars on a kiteboard at the moment. Though I can think of a few crew for whom it may be handy.

Juddy
WA, 993 posts
29 May 2017 4:38PM
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^^^
it was the question about whether or not kiters; windsurfers & SUP's should carry a "fire extinguisher" that got me.

DoT has done some reasonable, albeit contentious work regarding PFD's & on water safety with Surf Life Saving WA & WAKSA over recent years.

The authors of that survey showed their ignorance & contempt for kiters, poleys & SUP crew by asking some remarkably stupid & arrogant questions. DoT & the authors got responses from me pointing that out. What might have been a productive process certainly has IMO, to a degree, shot itself in the foot.

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 371 posts
29 May 2017 7:51PM
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Bara said..
yep and flares if more than 400m from land

farcical eh?


Meh! One for foilers to worry about. And who cares about foilers?

lotofwind
NSW, 4676 posts
29 May 2017 9:52PM
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I think just the windsufers should carry flare, bucket, PFD, fire extinguisher, anchor and oars as they have to go to the horizon and back to get back upwind to the take off spot,
and they have plenty of room on their boats to carry it all.
They like to call themselves real sailors , so they should comply to the sailing rules. No??

Mark _australia
WA, 16620 posts
30 May 2017 5:39PM
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Much of the (non "boating") rules that are proposed are due to kiting deaths and the windsurfers are backing up the kiters, with a united front from WWA and WAKSA.
Some people can't stop being a knob though can they. Yeah the Govt / Dept Transport Marine etc don't read all this for info.... as if.


lotofwind
NSW, 4676 posts
31 May 2017 2:44AM
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I think you take everything waaaaaaaaay too seriously old timer, chill out a bit, laugh for once, stop ya whining and let your grumpiness go.

rod_bunny
WA, 722 posts
1 Jun 2017 11:20AM
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Mark _australia said..
Yeah the Govt / Dept Transport Marine etc don't read all this for info.... as if.




I'm sure they do... but cmon... bailing devices? anchors?


www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/General-Discussion/Chat/WA-lifejacket-review-link-original-statement-and-survey-?page=1#2

For Bailing device sail/kite boards are lumped in with motorboats but paddlecraft are exempted until they are 400m from shore.


Its shows an astounding ignorance of the facts for something so obvious (that they should have more than a passing interest in) - how can we trust them with issues that are more nuanced?

Mark50
NSW, 109 posts
10 Jun 2017 6:38AM
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Surely a misprint? Having said that KA had to argue to have new PFD laws that were a major risk for kiters reversed here in NSW last year. Get in early and make sure the regulators understand the practicalities before they legislate.



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