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Hydrofoil kite from ZEEKO

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Created by RAL INN > 9 months ago, 20 Nov 2015
RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
20 Nov 2015 7:11AM
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Zeeko, being the first kite company some 4 or so years ago to sell production hydrofoils and their owner and designer and everything else Nicolas, having 8 years foiling experience including being at the top level of Course racing on foils, have come up with an inflatable kite dedicated to use with hydrofoils.
2 sizes 8m and 12m that can be used with of without 8m extension lines.

check out the PDF here

issuu.com/zeeko-kites.com/docs/zeeko_notus_air_2016_uk/1?e=15407849/31438814

RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
13 Mar 2016 6:54AM
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first video of Notus Air which also looks good for strapless surfing

Gorgo
VIC, 4134 posts
13 Mar 2016 10:57AM
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How much is it?
What does it weigh?
What are the specifications? (flat and projected area, aspect ratio, span and chord)

Sorry for the detailed questions but all that stuff will matter for a hydrofoil specific kite, especially for the 12m. If you're trying to ride in winds dropping down below 10 knots you really need the most optimised kite for those conditions.

RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
13 Mar 2016 2:00PM
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Prices are pinned to top of Facebook page.
Weight is lighter than Notus Rev.
The target for this kite is for having fun and general free riding and making foiling easier in winds not at extreme low ends.

snalberski
WA, 624 posts
13 Mar 2016 1:22PM
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Are demo kites available in WA?

RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
14 Mar 2016 8:24AM
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snalberski said..
Are demo kites available in WA?


Sorry no demo kites yet.

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
14 Mar 2016 10:38AM
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How can a kite without struts hold the load that we put on it using hydrofoils? Pretty sure if you send it powered though the window it will fold in half.

Livit
WA, 430 posts
14 Mar 2016 8:58AM
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INTHELOOP said..
How can a kite without struts hold the load that we put on it using hydrofoils? Pretty sure if you send it powered though the window it will fold in half.


Firstly it has one strut. The designer has 8 years experience riding hydrofoil so maybe you can ask him.

Secondly, have you watched any of the BRM videos? No struts, no folding in half.

Those kites are freeride kites, never it has been mentioned they were designed for racing which is probably what you have in mind with this comment.

Freeriding hydrofoil is a fast growing part of the sport and I won't be surprise to see more of those kite designs in a near future.

Gorgo
VIC, 4134 posts
14 Mar 2016 12:10PM
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RAL INN said..
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The target for this kite is for having fun and general free riding and making foiling easier in winds not at extreme low ends.


In moderate winds you don't need anything special in a kite to go foiling. Any modern, agile kite with a bit of range will do fine. A good top end is desirable because it is easy for hydrofoil newbies to get overpowered.

Hydrofoils let you ride in light wind marginal conditions where it is very likely that you will drop the kite. You want light weight so it is less likely to fall in the first place, and exceptionally easy relaunch so you can get the kite up in a puff.

Agility is good so you can get the kite in position to power out of a gybe, but not too fast so that you are stuck with short pulses of power.

If the Notus Air is a hydrofoil specific kite then they need to clearly state the things that will make it good for foiling and support that with information and videos etc. Just saying it is a hydrofoil specific kite is not enough.

Is the $1750 price complete with a bar and bag and pump? The separate prices on your Facebook page imply that bar and lines are $440 extra.

RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
14 Mar 2016 4:41PM
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That's a lot of good input Gorgo.
I believe you are spot on in what is needed in a hydrofoil specific kite.
And I'm equally sure that when Nico from Zeeko designed this kite he had the same ideas in mind.
prices are kite only. Bars are seperate as you noted.

HappyG
VIC, 259 posts
14 Mar 2016 6:56PM
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Everyone Likes the one Strut Even North Kiteboarding... Works for Foiling Waves and Freeride Jesus I hope its not tooooo expensive....






bjw
NSW, 2671 posts
14 Mar 2016 7:40PM
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North Hijacked this thread.
Not the first time.

snalberski
WA, 624 posts
14 Mar 2016 9:38PM
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HappyG said..
Everyone Likes the one Strut Even North Kiteboarding... Works for Foiling Waves and Freeride Jesus I hope its not tooooo expensive....







An Evo with a flapping trailing edge

RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
15 Mar 2016 3:56AM
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I asked Nicolas some of your questions and comments.
this is his reply.

to summarize, we have 2 different way to design a kite for hydrofoil and it depends on the hydrofoil you use. Zeeko Hydrofoil are medium to fast foils. Then you need a fast kite in the wind window to work with those foils. Also, the main trouble when you hydrofoil is you can use smaller kite in a defined wind (ex you use a 12m in 8knots when you need 13knots to use it with a twintip).
Then the Air kite is borned to use a performance hydrofoil and to have fun with it. It turns fast, it has a medium to high aspect ratio to be fast in the wind window and it is light (weight is about 2.4Kg for the 8m²). The target is to do all the tacks, jibes, 360° with a kite dedicated for it. We put a central strut as we noted the relaunching is safer in different condition with at least one strut, also the kite have a wider wind window with one strut. About the aspect ratio and the feeling of the kite is closer to our High aspect ratio kite but with a shorter turning radius. Hope it will help. I ride a lot with this kite and love it. Ride easy Nicolas

hope this helps

Rolavi
1 posts
23 Mar 2016 11:04AM
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I own a quiver of Notus Airs. I like them a lot. I have been riding Naish parks 2013/14 with surfboards for the past few years. I also bought a Zeeko Notus 2015 10m last fall.

i have had the 12 since November and have used it 6-7 times. It has been too cold here to use it more. I liked it so much I bought the 8m last week and have used the 8m twice.

the kites are better for foiling then my parks or standard Notus. They are lighter kites then I have owned and behave well overhead in light wind and lulls. The kites stay drier then my other kites. They are as lively as my parks for turning and looping. they have lots of range. I havent used my 10m since I've owned the 12 and go from 12 to 8m as an easy transition. Using a extra bar and line set with super long extensions has been a fun option.

I havent relaunched the kites much They seem to be okay once the canopy fills. However with one strut and resulting droopy canopy you need the kite to drift downwind to catch the wind. In light wind this can take some extra time. Maybe I need to yanks on the lines to pivot the canopy to catch wind Earlier.

My my friends who foil with me are digging my kites andare asking me how much I paid.










RAL INN
VIC, 2674 posts
1 Apr 2016 10:06AM
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Rolavi, some people ask about top end of 12m.
Have you tested that yet?



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