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Created by Donk107 A week ago, 10 Feb 2020
Donk107
TAS, 2358 posts
10 Feb 2020 1:13PM
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Hi all

I was talking to one of the Etchells racers from another club and they are using a locally made boat bag on a swing mooring with chlorine it it to keep the bottom clean with a lot of success

Just wondering if any forum members are using one as a mate of mine is looking at buying one

I think he is going to contact these people www.boatbag.com.au/ for some information on them

Regards Don

twodogs1969
NSW, 950 posts
10 Feb 2020 1:18PM
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I don't use one but have raced on boats that use them.
They do work but can be a real pain in the ass to get the boat into. We don't have fast current flow so.not sure how that would effect but windy days are near impossible to get into them.

Donk107
TAS, 2358 posts
10 Feb 2020 1:20PM
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Hi Twodogs

Thanks for that

My mate is actually in a pen in a sheltered Marina so it might not be too bad

Regards Don

twodogs1969
NSW, 950 posts
10 Feb 2020 2:30PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi Twodogs

Thanks for that

My mate is actually in a pen in a sheltered Marina so it might not be too bad

Regards Don


I would think it would be worse .

Donk107
TAS, 2358 posts
10 Feb 2020 2:34PM
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twodogs1969 said..

Donk107 said..
Hi Twodogs

Thanks for that

My mate is actually in a pen in a sheltered Marina so it might not be too bad

Regards Don



I would think it would be worse .


Hi Twodogs

Interested in why you think it would be worse in a sheltered pen (pontoon on one side) than on a swing mooring

Regards Don

Planeray
NSW, 163 posts
10 Feb 2020 7:37PM
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Know a bloke here in Sydney who owns a Soling and uses one.

Absolutely magic in terms of keeping the bottom clean without extra antifoul and saves diving on the boat to keep things clean. It's on a swing mooring, fairly unprotected, so swings nicely with the wind. He sails into it under main alone.

Price wise, much on a par with antifouling up here. An antifoul for a Soling is about $1000 a year (or slightly more), boat bag was about $4k, but lasts about 4 years. Not sure about disposal though.

Jethrow
NSW, 831 posts
10 Feb 2020 7:41PM
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I think using chlorine is a definite no no. If it was discovered you were using it there could be big pollution fines.
The newer boat bags actually pump the water out so the bag is up against the hull.

twodogs1969
NSW, 950 posts
11 Feb 2020 7:40AM
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Donk107 said..

twodogs1969 said..


Donk107 said..
Hi Twodogs

Thanks for that

My mate is actually in a pen in a sheltered Marina so it might not be too bad

Regards Don




I would think it would be worse .



Hi Twodogs

Interested in why you think it would be worse in a sheltered pen (pontoon on one side) than on a swing mooring

Regards Don


I have never put one in while in a pen but my thoughts are.
Pens are tight bag works best coming straight into it.
Bag will not be hanging inline with any current causing the bag to lift.

waikikin
NSW, 27 posts
11 Feb 2020 8:50PM
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I used to work at a firm that used them for J24s, some were set up with some pvc conduit frame that held them open & made entry easier. The ones without sometimes had the float lanyard long so you could pick up early and swim/roll the keel in or have the crew on the bow reaching down either side to spread.
Not sure on the chemistry with the chlorine- might be fine when it escapes as surely there's plenty of chlorides in the water anyway?
Was a little daunting first go but after that was just normal..
I never dosed them with chlorine but believe that a tablet was chucked in now & then.
Jeff.

Chris 249
NSW, 2269 posts
Saturday , 15 Feb 2020 9:29PM
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Jethrow said..
I think using chlorine is a definite no no. If it was discovered you were using it there could be big pollution fines.
The newer boat bags actually pump the water out so the bag is up against the hull.



I think I checked years ago and chlorine was OK in practical terms, since it breaks down so quickly under UV. Just going from memory, the definition of pollution in NSW is ridiculously broad (something like "introducing any matter into waters which changes the physical, chemical or biological condition of the water") that you could get fined for throwing in fishing bait on a hook, piddling into your wetsuit while surfing (not that you or I would ever do that), washing poop from a low-flying seagull off your deck or your hat, or running an Environmental Protection Authority powerboat....... Therefore in reality they only prosecute the most severe cases. This is, IIRC, almost the very definition of a badly conceived law but this is NSW, and AFAIK those who draft legislation have enormous egos and therefore would not condescend to seek any advice on such an issue.



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