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Diesel service cost?

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Created by Gos2017 A week ago, 16 May 2018
Gos2017
NSW, 29 posts
16 May 2018 5:05PM
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Hi all
Just curious, what kind of price are you paying for a general service on your marine diesel. Nothing out of the ordinary, just fluids, maybe an impeller and labour.

Cheers
Gos

UncleBob
NSW, 238 posts
16 May 2018 5:12PM
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Gos2017 said..
Hi all
Just curious, what kind of price are you paying for a general service on your marine diesel. Nothing out of the ordinary, just fluids, maybe an impeller and labour.

Cheers
Gos


Gos, I have to ask, why do you not DIY, it is so simple, oil, filter, a means of extracting the old oil, a few rags to clean and some coolant if required. The big bonus is that you become intimately acquainted with the big lump of iron that propels your boat when you NEED it.

MorningBird
NSW, 1917 posts
16 May 2018 7:39PM
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Gos2017 said..
Hi all
Just curious, what kind of price are you paying for a general service on your marine diesel. Nothing out of the ordinary, just fluids, maybe an impeller and labour.

Cheers
Gos



Gos, I have to ask, why do you not DIY, it is so simple, oil, filter, a means of extracting the old oil, a few rags to clean and some coolant if required. The big bonus is that you become intimately acquainted with the big lump of iron that propels your boat when you NEED it.


Absolutely.

oldboyracer
NSW, 171 posts
16 May 2018 8:15PM
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I was quoted nearly $500 for my old Volvo , did it myself after I picked myself up from the floor. With the new beta diesel its so easy. YouTube and google are your friends.

Cav30
NSW, 72 posts
16 May 2018 9:04PM
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After finding receipts for $1100, $800 and $700 for engine services for the previous owner I took it on myself to DIY. It really is so simple, a little time consuming but very rewarding. Basically oil and filter change. Primary and secondary fuel filters. Also impeller. Took me about four hours. Can probably get that down to two next time.

Every other year you will need to change cooling fluid and flush sea water cooling system.

Add in some diesel bug killer once in a while and the above is basically my engine service protocol.

Lots of YouTube vids to help you on you way.

I have found anyone in the marine industry wants a full days work. They make stuff up on the bill to add a few hours labour on. Always ends up being $800 to $1k if you get someone else involved, esp
someome who goes to your mooring, whack on 30 mins travel there and back.

With DIY you will learn how to change primary fuel filter and prime the fuel pump / system. Two very key skills if you are out of rescue services reach.

sorry that was war and peace. Good luck whatever u decide to do.

:-)

Ed

garymalmgren
25 posts
16 May 2018 9:28PM
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what kind of price are you paying for a general service

The answer seems to be between $500 and $1100.
Makes you think, doesn't it.
gary

Gos2017
NSW, 29 posts
17 May 2018 8:29AM
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All
Thanks for the replies. The reason for my post was because i fell over backwards when I got a quote for the job. Was curious if this was the "norm" around the area.
I will in fact DIY as this is money I can spend elsewhere.

Cheers

Bristolfashion
VIC, 341 posts
17 May 2018 3:39PM
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Good topic

I do all my routine servicing, but I have just got to the 3 items in the schedule that are marked for an authorised dealer to do. These are:

1. Injectors. Test pressure
2. Valve clearance. Adjustment
3. Reverse gear. Replacing propeller shaft seal

Do people get this done, do it themselves or ignore?

Cheers

Bristol

Gravy7
NSW, 139 posts
17 May 2018 6:06PM
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From Marine Tune, Bayview for a Yanmar 21hp:
Travel to boat on mooring and carry out engine service, drain and refill engine oil and replace oil filter, replace fuel filters and bleed system, strip water pump and replace impeller, clean out sea water strainer. Check belt condition and tension. Check coolant level and test strength. Check mounting, check all cables and linkages, check all hose clamps, wipe out bilge, run and check operation.
Labour
Engine oil
Oil filter
Secondary fuel filter
Impeller
Consumables
Total $502.66

Jode5
QLD, 579 posts
17 May 2018 6:19PM
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Bristolfashion said..
Good topic

I do all my routine servicing, but I have just got to the 3 items in the schedule that are marked for an authorised dealer to do. These are:

1. Injectors. Test pressure
2. Valve clearance. Adjustment
3. Reverse gear. Replacing propeller shaft seal

Do people get this done, do it themselves or ignore?

Cheers

Bristol


1. Injectors. Test pressure if motor is running fine and no smoke, ignore
2. Valve clearance. Adjustment. As above
3. Reverse gear. Replacing propeller shaft seal. If not leaking oil, ignore

MorningBird
NSW, 1917 posts
17 May 2018 6:56PM
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Jode5 said..

Bristolfashion said..
Good topic

I do all my routine servicing, but I have just got to the 3 items in the schedule that are marked for an authorised dealer to do. These are:

1. Injectors. Test pressure
2. Valve clearance. Adjustment
3. Reverse gear. Replacing propeller shaft seal

Do people get this done, do it themselves or ignore?

Cheers

Bristol



1. Injectors. Test pressure if motor is running fine and no smoke, ignore
2. Valve clearance. Adjustment. As above
3. Reverse gear. Replacing propeller shaft seal. If not leaking oil, ignore

Agree. You will hear a loose tappet telling you it wants adjusting

Jolene
810 posts
17 May 2018 5:20PM
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Gravy7 said..
From Marine Tune, Bayview for a Yanmar 21hp:
Travel to boat on mooring and carry out engine service, drain and refill engine oil and replace oil filter, replace fuel filters and bleed system, strip water pump and replace impeller, clean out sea water strainer. Check belt condition and tension. Check coolant level and test strength. Check mounting, check all cables and linkages, check all hose clamps, wipe out bilge, run and check operation.
Labour
Engine oil
Oil filter
Secondary fuel filter
Impeller
Consumables
Total $502.66



That seems a very reasonable price

Agent nods
QLD, 512 posts
17 May 2018 10:15PM
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Here is a quote for a maybe unreasonable amount?



Service Chrysler Nissan marine

engine in yacht. R&R engine and

gear oil. Oil and fuel filters.

Impellor, anodes, belts as required.

General inspection of hoses,

mounts, coolant etc. Test run and

observe. Report on any further

work required.

6 hours labour @ $120 = $720 excl GST



MISC parts

2 x Racor 10 Micron

1 x Racor filters

1 x impellor

5 x Rubia TIR7400 15/W/40

1 x oil filter LF247

Rags, sealants, anodes, belts, solvents etc

Waste oil disposal gov levy

Liability insurance

Total misc parts = $670.10 excl GST



No allowance has been made for

raw water pump overhaul if

required, seized or snapped bolts,

engine cleaning, touch up or

detailing, stripping of primary fuel

filters if required etc.



Total service cost $1,390.10 excl GST






GKandCC
NSW, 134 posts
17 May 2018 11:02PM
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I have noticed that a replacement of the coolant impeller is mentioned frequently, I only have experience with a regularly flushed outboard so I don't come up against this issue. So my question is, 'what is actually, or possibly, happening to the impeller that it requires such regular attention'. Is there such an encrustation of barnacles or other shelled creatures that it really needs needs this replacement, or is it a wearing away of a metal impeller due to corrosion?

fishmonkey
NSW, 293 posts
18 May 2018 8:23AM
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GKandCC said..
I have noticed that a replacement of the coolant impeller is mentioned frequently, I only have experience with a regularly flushed outboard so I don't come up against this issue. So my question is, 'what is actually, or possibly, happening to the impeller that it requires such regular attention'. Is there such an encrustation of barnacles or other shelled creatures that it really needs needs this replacement, or is it a wearing away of a metal impeller due to corrosion?


we have a fairly new Beta 25, and find that the impeller fins are quite fragile. we're lucky to get a year out of an impeller, and we don't even use the motor much...

Cav30
NSW, 72 posts
18 May 2018 9:10AM
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Agent nods said..
Here is a quote for a maybe unreasonable amount?



Service Chrysler Nissan marine

engine in yacht. R&R engine and

gear oil. Oil and fuel filters.

Impellor, anodes, belts as required.

General inspection of hoses,

mounts, coolant etc. Test run and

observe. Report on any further

work required.

6 hours labour @ $120 = $720 excl GST



MISC parts

2 x Racor 10 Micron

1 x Racor filters

1 x impellor

5 x Rubia TIR7400 15/W/40

1 x oil filter LF247

Rags, sealants, anodes, belts, solvents etc

Waste oil disposal gov levy

Liability insurance

Total misc parts = $670.10 excl GST



No allowance has been made for

raw water pump overhaul if

required, seized or snapped bolts,

engine cleaning, touch up or

detailing, stripping of primary fuel

filters if required etc.



Total service cost $1,390.10 excl GST








What size engine is this for?

6 hours labour and they don't do a coolant or sea water flush? What are they doing for six hours? Perhaps they do two hours of "observing".

Looking at the parts prices I don't see how they can get to $650. Is that 5L of oil or 5x5L (25L total).

Everyone has to make a living but this is ridiculous.

EC31
NSW, 307 posts
18 May 2018 10:54AM
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Cav30 said..

Agent nods said..
Here is a quote for a maybe unreasonable amount?

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Total service cost $1,390.10 excl GST



What size engine is this for?

6 hours labour and they don't do a coolant or sea water flush? What are they doing for six hours? Perhaps they do two hours of "observing".

Looking at the parts prices I don't see how they can get to $650. Is that 5L of oil or 5x5L (25L total).

Everyone has to make a living but this is ridiculous.


Perhaps for 6 hours labour they have removed the engine to make it easier to do the service............

sirgallivant
NSW, 1170 posts
18 May 2018 12:06PM
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Excerpt of a recent phone call:
"Hi. I would like to have my two cylinder Vetus engine serviced."
'Sure, you know it's going to cost you over a thousand dollars?'
"Hm. Isn't that a bit dear, just over the phone, you reckon?'
"Nah. It could be as much as fifteen hundred or more if we find some problem.'
"Thanks."

To myself:
You f&%$!/@ imbecile.
Well, l am not going to ignore my motor but sure, l am going to ignore the mechanic at Balmain Marina!

samsturdy
NSW, 1137 posts
18 May 2018 1:28PM
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I do my own servicing ( Bukh DV10 ) with the help of Missus. I can just get under the sump, so I cut a 3 litre
milk bottle in half lengthwise, I insert this under the sump plug, ease the plug out to half fill the container
then put the plug back in and missus takes the container off me ( I'm lying prone on the cabin sole ) and
pours it into a 2 litre milk bottle then we repeat the process until the sump is empty. I much prefer to do it
this way rather than try to suck the oil out through the dipstick hole. I'm just lucky that I have good access
to the engine. Oh, and I change the impeller every year, regardless.

Planeray
70 posts
18 May 2018 11:43AM
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GKandCC said..
I have noticed that a replacement of the coolant impeller is mentioned frequently, I only have experience with a regularly flushed outboard so I don't come up against this issue. So my question is, 'what is actually, or possibly, happening to the impeller that it requires such regular attention'. Is there such an encrustation of barnacles or other shelled creatures that it really needs needs this replacement, or is it a wearing away of a metal impeller due to corrosion?


My understanding is they're all just rubber and if too much crap makes it through the water intake, they just disintegrate. They spend their time twisted into place and over time, especially if they're not used, can get brittle, break and send bits through the engine. Big impact thanks to a cheap part, so everyone makes sure to check them and replace them at the drop of a hat.

warwickl
NSW, 927 posts
18 May 2018 6:16PM
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I do 2x 6 litre Cummins turbo diesels with 30l of premium Cummins oil, 6 filters, coolant test kit, replace annodes etc and my labour for $350 per year for both engines.
Do all checking of heat exchangers, turbos etc replace raw water impellers every 3 yrs but keep spares including belts.
I have had this boat for 12 years and it runs like a dream.
Like a lot on here I know ever sound the boat makes.

AusCan
SA, 84 posts
Monday , 21 May 2018 9:18AM
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Since I installed my engine myself, I've continued doing the servicing as well. Just follow the maintenance manual.

I wouldn't ignore adjusting the valves when recommended as per the manual. It's a quick simple task, and will minimise the chance of bigger problems developing.

My manual suggests changing the raw water impeller every 500 hours, but that sounds a bit long to me. I've checked it a couple times but I'll probably change it after 300 hours. Occasionally I've left the seacock closed for a minute or so when starting up, which can't be good for the impeller.



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