Jarkan vs Nantucket

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theselkie
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3 Jun 2018 11:24am
Intended for a cruising live-aboard capable of crossing Bass Strait.

Cant find any specifications on sailboatdata.com for the Jarkan.

Ideas on a hard dodger to make the flush-decked Nantucket more aesthetically pleasing?

Would the Nantucket'sailing abilities be dubious?

Thoughts?
Experience?

Many thanks
Ramona
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3 Jun 2018 5:52pm
Which Jarkan and which Nantucket?
theselkie
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3 Jun 2018 6:13pm
Ramona said..
Which Jarkan and which Nantucket?


Jarkan 10.5 and Peter Cole's Nantucket 33....both centre-cockpit.
theselkie
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3 Jun 2018 6:18pm
In particular:

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1982-JARKAN-105/SSE-AD-5350305?id=SSE-AD-5350305

vs

33 foot yacht boat sail boat for sale,
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/redcliffe/sail-boats/33-foot-yacht-boat-sail-boat-for-sale/1184722528?utm_source=com.google.android.apps.docs&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttonsVIP&utm_content=app_android

Price: $19,900

Ramona
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3 Jun 2018 7:03pm
The Jarkans were built locally and were really good boats. Mate had a 10.5 and cruised the Qld coast for 5 years and was very happy with it. On his return he had a larger Jarkan built, about 45 foot with an aft cockpit. Sadly he died from cancer shortly after she was launched. He owned several yachts over a 25 year period that he spent cruising and working on the East Coast. The 10.5 was the only centre cockpit yacht he owned. I know very little on Nantucket 33's but they certainly come up cheap occasionally.
Bushdog
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3 Jun 2018 7:12pm
The Jarkan will provide a much more comfortable livaboard space, with a centre cockpit you can be in, not on... it also lends itself to a good Bimini. I had one made for an Adams 31CC that worked really well. While the Nantucket has a lot of new electronics etc, the Jarkan's new Yanmar is worth a heap more, plus the Jarkan is ready to use, whereas the Nantucket is cheap, but has significant work to be done, and possibly a few surprises given systems - engine/gearbox, electrics, fridge etc have not been operated for a number of years.
Bananabender
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3 Jun 2018 7:43pm
Either will handle Bass Strait but your comparing a 33 with a 35.
The nantucket replaced the east coast 31 and the Pawtucket the Bounty 35.
The Australian made Cole boats are good strong dry seaboats with a high freeboard . The downside to this is a long way down into the cabin and not the easiest to climb aboard from sea level. A big plus is the flush deck with heaps of room on deck and full headroom below The Nantucket was used a fair bit as a bare boat up north. I did a trip or two crossing/ in Bass Strait in a Bounty I owned and had no issues.
The Jarkans are proven sea boats . Young family in pen opposite back in the 80's sailed the pacific in one ,no issues.
Chris 249
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3 Jun 2018 7:57pm
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Just to make it clear, the Nantucket (Island) 33 is not the Nantucket 32 that replaced the East Coast.
Chris 249
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3 Jun 2018 8:03pm
theselkie said..

Ramona said..
Which Jarkan and which Nantucket?



Jarkan 10.5 and Peter Cole's Nantucket 33....both centre-cockpit.


Just one point is that the Nantucket 33 (originally called the Nantucket Island 33, I believe) has had the anti-foul stripped off and the Jarkan looks due for it. I've had quotes from about $5000-9,000 for my 36'er to have a strip back and re-paint, so it's not a cost to ignore when totalling prices.

Both look nice. A well geared Jarkan goes quite well when sailed well, keeping up with the racier boats of their vintage downwind.
Toyboata
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3 Jun 2018 8:06pm
The cruising kitty is $25K bigger if you go the Nantucket.... Both look like great boats!!
Bananabender
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3 Jun 2018 8:57pm
Chris 249 said..
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Just to make it clear, the Nantucket (Island) 33 is not the Nantucket 32 that replaced the East Coast.


Oops ,your right.
theselkie
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3 Jun 2018 10:37pm
Chris 249 said..
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Just to make it clear, the Nantucket (Island) 33 is not the Nantucket 32 that replaced the East Coast.


+
theselkie
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3 Jun 2018 10:40pm
Toyboata said..
The cruising kitty is $25K bigger if you go the Nantucket.... Both look like great boats!!


How so???
FoolishBehaviour
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3 Jun 2018 11:01pm
A Jarkan 10.5 (#16th built) named FreeSpirit has been fitted with a hard dodger and was then cruised extensively. Google their Blog


Agree that Chowringhce's hull could do with a total strip back and re prime. Our Warrina III had this done in 2009 @ $4,000 approx. and then antifoulded.

boty
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4 Jun 2018 7:11am
i know the guy who did the major refit on the nantucket and everything was replaced
theselkie
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4 Jun 2018 8:21am
theselkie said..

Toyboata said..
The cruising kitty is $25K bigger if you go the Nantucket.... Both look like great boats!!



How so???


I'm envisaging a lot of money to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
theselkie
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4 Jun 2018 8:25am
boty said..
i know the guy who did the major refit on the nantucket and everything was replaced


Except the engine which is in a dubious state.
Boty, you know the Nantucket is not Aussie Trekka hey?!
theselkie
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4 Jun 2018 8:27am
Warrina III said..
A Jarkan 10.5 (#16th built) named FreeSpirit has been fitted with a hard dodger and was then cruised extensively. Google their Blog


Agree that Chowringhce's hull could do with a total strip back and re prime. Our Warrina III had this done in 2009 @ $4,000 approx. and then antifoulded.


I love that hard dodger
theselkie
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4 Jun 2018 8:55am
Ramona said..
The other Jarkan is the 10. Shorter but actually a bigger boat with the cockpit in the right place. They sail well too. There is a local one for sale but this one up your way is surprisingly cheap.

https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jarkan-10-5/200855


I quite like this one.

Simple but effective. And close by!!

Bathroom is in the right place and I love the quarter double. It looks like a padded cell
Chris 249
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4 Jun 2018 11:26am
I think those 10s were extended 925s, and the 925 was a real "sleeper" in performance terms as far as I can recall; that is, they didn't look too fast but performed very well.
Newmo
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4 Jun 2018 11:55am
The 925 and the 10.5 are the same hull design. 10.5 has a sugar scoop and internally totally a different story.
I have a Jarkan 925 and a mate has a 10.5, they are totally different layouts inside and the 925 has to be the one of the largest internal volume 30 footers going around.
It is also very slippery through the water, has standing headroom of 6"1 through to the compression post and with a beam of 3.2 M there is more space than you can imagine for storage.





Bushdog
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4 Jun 2018 12:06pm
The 10 is a good looking boat for the price, though a 14hp engine would be hard pressed to move it well against wind and tide. Not what you want for extended cruising.
Windancer
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7 Jun 2018 11:01am
theselkie said..

theselkie said..


Toyboata said..
The cruising kitty is $25K bigger if you go the Nantucket.... Both look like great boats!!




How so???



I'm envisaging a lot of money to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.


I have always liked the look and design of the Nantucket 33 island. I like the interior fit out as well. On the one advertised I think if you spent an extra $40,000 (making sure the hull and mast are sound) on her you would have a sensational boat worth the money you spent. More importantly most of the money would be spent on new items or rejuvenating the boat to a high standard. That should give you quite a few good years of life out of her.More importantly you will get to know the boat and fit-out much better. off course it all comes down to a budget. if I was buying this boat myself i would allow the figure mentioned and then some to get her right up to speed.
theselkie
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7 Jun 2018 11:44am
Thanks Windancer for your thoughts. Have decided against the Nantucket and, at the moment, the Jarkan Europa 10 is high on the list.
Ramona
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7 Jun 2018 6:15pm
Went close past the local Jarkan 10 this morning while showing a bloke some moorings. This one is parked close to a Brolga and looks enormous in comparison!
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