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New Rigging - Expectations

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Created by Cabron A week ago, 12 Aug 2019
Cabron
NSW, 260 posts
12 Aug 2019 9:52AM
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Just paid a small fortune to get Standing Rigging, and Mast/Boom painted. I supplied new sail bag to go back on after work complete.

Now a month plus over schedule and rigger tells me this morning it's ready to go....but I have to put all sails on, put on sail bag, and make new lazy jacks after he cut the old ones off.

When questioning him, he says he only quoted to do the rigging...
Whats others experiences? I presumed that I would of been returning to a boat complete with sails and lazy jacks??

Not to mention the paint scrapped off the freshly painted mast while stepping it, and lots of other small damage left afterwards.

i won't name and shame yet.. I should of read between the lines when I was asked who was rigger and Shipwright was... got told that that's a great Shipwright.... but here's a contacts for other riggers.....

wongaga
290 posts
12 Aug 2019 10:55AM
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Telling just the facts, including the rigging company's name is not "naming and shaming", It's simply telling the truth.

Cabron
NSW, 260 posts
12 Aug 2019 2:48PM
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Well my call to the rigger this morning must of done something, yacht now has sails, lazy jacks... but can see from the photo he sent that he hasn't even bothered with the reef lines.... guess a inspection is required to see what else he hasn't done.

Zzzzzz
239 posts
12 Aug 2019 5:19PM
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He is not in QLD is he ? Just north of Brisbane?

Cabron
NSW, 260 posts
12 Aug 2019 8:11PM
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Zzzzzz said..
He is not in QLD is he ? Just north of Brisbane?


There's probably more than 1 dodgy rigger, no this ones out of well known Pittwater marina.
Standard of the rigging looks great, just the delay, laziness and lack of care to the yacht.

Even after I asked.... (though would think it would be standard practice, when restepping the mast and doing all sheeves, rigging etc, you would run and messenger/mouse down the mast for future stuff)... to suffice... no messenger/mouse...

Andrew68
VIC, 257 posts
12 Aug 2019 8:12PM
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I specifically excluded that sort of stuff I can do myself so I wouldn't get charged for it. Despite this, when the stick went back in, the rigger double checked that I didn't want him to set up the sails, reefing etc. There was a protective chock missing between the mast and the roof where the mast went in and he came back, de tensioned the rig and added the chock in. I am sure if there was chipped paint, he would have fixed that too.

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Cabron
NSW, 260 posts
12 Aug 2019 10:06PM
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Andrew68 said..
I specifically excluded that sort of stuff I can do myself so I wouldn't get charged for it. Despite this, when the stick went back in he double checked that he didn't want me to set up the sails, reefing etc. There was a protective chock missing between the mast and the roof where the mast went in and he came back, de tensioned the rig and added the chock in. I am sure if there was chip paint, he would have fixed that too.

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Yep, probably my presumption that you drop off a boat as is, however upgraded when picked up. Quote said disassembled and reassembled rig blar blar... they disassembled sails/lazy jack/bag... just thought it would go back on.
Next time I guess to go into more details, I would of been fine doing it myself...if I had known, or told.. Imagine arriving without inspection to sail Pittwater/Sydney with hours work setting up the rig...
Lesson learnt... glad I pre-checked

rumblefish
TAS, 746 posts
Friday , 16 Aug 2019 9:02AM
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As a rigger....

We send a detailed pdf about what the owner can do before and after the work. Remove sails and boom, electrics and halyards.
If the owner asks me to do this it will be in the quote (extra labour).

Scratches on the rig are hard to avoid from stays but on a freshly painted mast I put bags around the turnbuckles.

Lazy Jack's should of been discussed before cutting.
Out of interest was the mouse run in place of a halyard or just run in a general spot?

Unfortunately rigging is not like an IKEA flatpack, unforeseen things happen but communication is the key.

I just had to do the lot on a boat just purchased, move boat, take sails off, disconnect electrical and put all back together.
I labeled all electrics, tested when the lights when the mast was out and it all worked. But whe I put it back together exactly the same way it came apart, masthead light wouldn't work.
There was an issue with the boats wiring and a sparky was needed to fix.
Owner wanted me to pay for the sparky ??
So it's easy to make things complex!!



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