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Now Thats A Sail Boat

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Created by BROWNSMTRACE 2 months ago, 15 Sep 2018
BROWNSMTRACE
WA, 120 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:03AM
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Subsonic
WA, 1381 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:12AM
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Nice.

theres something quite majestic about sailing boats from that era. Things were getting sleeker but still setting a monsterous amount of sail.

samsturdy
NSW, 1269 posts
15 Sep 2018 2:12PM
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However did they stay upright with all that power trying to blow them over ?.

Yara
NSW, 747 posts
15 Sep 2018 2:30PM
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samsturdy said..
However did they stay upright with all that power trying to blow them over ?.

A lot of ballast and a lot of crew.

2bish
TAS, 223 posts
15 Sep 2018 5:18PM
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Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?

Ramona
NSW, 4460 posts
15 Sep 2018 5:23PM
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2bish said..
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?


Schooner.

woko
NSW, 269 posts
15 Sep 2018 5:54PM
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2bish said..
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?


Back to front you would have mainsil,atop of that would be main topsil, then looks like main staysil, onto the fore mast we got foresil with a foresil topsil, then I think it's inner jib, outer jib and flying jib. That's my guess anyway

2bish
TAS, 223 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:00PM
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Ramona said..

2bish said..
Wow that looks impressive! So what sails are we looking at here, front to back? Is that large yellowish sail the mizzen with the main just in front of it?



Schooner.

Ah I see, just looked up a sail plan, the schooner main is enormous!

All@Sea
TAS, 49 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:13PM
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Judging by the number of crew, or lack there of (that I can see), I'd say it may have powered winches. Kinda detracts from the sail thing. Not knocking it, but if we're talking classics, these are more my style. I've never been such a fan of the clipper bow, nor (generally) schooners.

SandS
VIC, 5323 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:25PM
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that would fun to sail !!!

BROWNSMTRACE
WA, 120 posts
15 Sep 2018 4:52PM
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All@Sea said..
Judging by the number of crew, or lack there of (that I can see), I'd say it may have powered winches. Kinda detracts from the sail thing. Not knocking it, but if we're talking classics, these are more my style. I've never been such a fan of the clipper bow, nor (generally) schooners.


Could they have made that Mizzen any smaller ?

All@Sea
TAS, 49 posts
15 Sep 2018 7:09PM
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Agnetta. I raced against her a decade ago. the only tie anyone was close was in the start line, after that she took off into the distance. I'd imagine the mizzen would be a rule cheater - no doubt it also helps with balance.

Bananabender
QLD, 408 posts
15 Sep 2018 7:24PM
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All@Sea said..
Agnetta. I raced against her a decade ago. the only tie anyone was close was in the start line, after that she took off into the distance. I'd imagine the mizzen would be a rule cheater - no doubt it also helps with balance.


Just read she's now for private charter.

All@Sea
TAS, 49 posts
15 Sep 2018 7:53PM
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Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?

woko
NSW, 269 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:08PM
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All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?


That's just plain old silly, look at the way the foresil has been scandalised to let the main staysil breath ! Not to mention the main boom and a bowsprit that's as long as the most of the boats we sail ! Those old timers must of had the biggest balls ! Imagine jibing that lot !

GKandCC
NSW, 143 posts
15 Sep 2018 11:56PM
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All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?



Without my glasses on that looks like Marilyn Monroe doing the Dance of the seven veils/sails

shaggybaxter
QLD, 1241 posts
16 Sep 2018 5:25AM
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GKandCC said..

All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?



Without my glasses on that looks like Marilyn Monroe doing the Dance of the seven veils/sails


Hehehehe!

Trek
NSW, 773 posts
16 Sep 2018 10:14AM
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All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?


Amazing! I would love to watch them gybe.

2bish
TAS, 223 posts
16 Sep 2018 10:15AM
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woko said..

All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?



That's just plain old silly, look at the way the foresil has been scandalised to let the main staysil breath ! Not to mention the main boom and a bowsprit that's as long as the most of the boats we sail ! Those old timers must of had the biggest balls ! Imagine jibing that lot !


Or worse, imagine a Chinese Gybe! That would probably rip the whole rig of the boat wouldn't it?

BROWNSMTRACE
WA, 120 posts
16 Sep 2018 11:30AM
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All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?


I don't think they are letting much wind go past

Windancer
QLD, 98 posts
16 Sep 2018 4:51PM
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BROWNSMTRACE said..

All@Sea said..
Now this is a magnificent schooner - and a real sailboat!
easily handled though...?



I don't think they are letting much wind go past


You need a boat that size to stow away the sails.!

All@Sea
TAS, 49 posts
16 Sep 2018 8:36PM
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Susanne 1911 (edit, 1906)
. Pretty that's the pre-winch era. Think about that...

SandS
VIC, 5323 posts
17 Sep 2018 6:51PM
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All@Sea said..
Susanne 1911 (edit, 1906)
. Pretty that's the pre-winch era. Think about that...


every race boat should have this pic on board to show the crew when they start grizzling about too many tacks !!!

woko
NSW, 269 posts
17 Sep 2018 8:21PM
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All@Sea said..
Susanne 1911 (edit, 1906)
. Pretty that's the pre-winch era. Think about that...

I'll Say it again those old timers must of had the biggest balls !
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cisco
QLD, 10782 posts
17 Sep 2018 11:17PM
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What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy


boty
QLD, 426 posts
18 Sep 2018 8:59AM
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cisco said..
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy



absolute love the mullet boats so cool great designs

BROWNSMTRACE
WA, 120 posts
18 Sep 2018 7:07AM
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boty said..

cisco said..
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy



absolute love the mullet boats so cool great designs


Isn't the Mullet boat the forefather of the Hartley 16??

cisco
QLD, 10782 posts
18 Sep 2018 9:45AM
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boty said..

cisco said..
What do you reckon, about an acre of sail to about an eighth of an acre of deck??

The Kiwis have been doing the same ratio for over 100 years on their "Mullet Boats", just on a smaller scale.




www.stuff.co.nz/sport/boating/76036232/rekindling-the-mullet-legacy



absolute love the mullet boats so cool great designs


If you are ever in Auckland make sure you visit the Ponsonby Cruising Club just beside the harbour bridge. www.pcc.org.nz/

It is the home of the Mullet Boat racers. I think the rule is on these 18 to 24 footers is that the mast may be no higher than 40 foot. That is radical.
They are that heavy on the helm it usually take three burly guys to steer them as it looks like in that photo.



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