Tidal Effects on Ocean Currents

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jev7337
jev7337
QLD
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24 Sep 2015 9:28am
Has anyone got any good information about how tides affect ocean currents. E.g. does the tide affect the EAC, how and to what extent?
Toph
Toph
WA
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24 Sep 2015 11:55am
Jev, I will start by saying I wouldn't have a clue. But just thinking out loud in the hope that it will cause discussion.

A current is a continual flow, while a tide is a rise and fall of water. That rise in water also causes a flow of sorts or a localised current (for want of a better analogy).

The EAC for example runs from approx. Fraser Is in QLD to Tasmania before it heads off back to the east below NZ. So for the guys heading to Norfolk Is, they would primarily be concerned about the north/south aspect of the current.

The coast line closest to the EAC would be the east coast of Aust. So a rise in tide, could cause a westerly flow in localised water, possible deflecting the EAC slightly west and opposite for a failing tide. If this is true, or even measurable, I wouldn't have the faintest. But logical in my mind. I am happy to learn otherwise.

Does an oceanic chart have Tidal Diamonds?
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
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24 Sep 2015 6:56pm
Off Sydney the tidal flow is very small. Somebody on here once pointed out the chart shows it is up to 0.5kts close to the coast. In truth it is negligible but if the inshore eddy coincides with the tidal flow it might be noticeable.
It doesn't affect the EAC down here which is usually a long way offshore near Sydney.
The EAC is close in further north , say near Smoky Cape where it can be very close in. Tidal flows may impact up there, I don't know.
Bottom line, tidal flows on a nearly north south coast is negligible. Offshore there is no tidal impact on currents.
Yara
Yara
NSW
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24 Sep 2015 7:20pm
You can see the currents here:www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/forecasts/idyoc14.shtml?region=14&forecast=2
SandS
SandS
VIC
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24 Sep 2015 7:34pm

question for the nsw crew ...whats the tide range up there say around Sydney ?
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
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24 Sep 2015 8:44pm
SandS said..

question for the nsw crew ...whats the tide range up there say around Sydney ?



The range between a neap low and high tide is about 1 metre, between low and high of a spring tide about 2 metres.
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
25 Sep 2015 1:20am
MorningBird said..
Off Sydney the tidal flow is very small. Somebody on here once pointed out the chart shows it is up to 0.5kts close to the coast. In truth it is negligible but if the inshore eddy coincides with the tidal flow it might be noticeable.
It doesn't affect the EAC down here which is usually a long way offshore near Sydney.
The EAC is close in further north , say near Smoky Cape where it can be very close in. Tidal flows may impact up there, I don't know.
Bottom line, tidal flows on a nearly north south coast is negligible. Offshore there is no tidal impact on currents.


Yes, from what i gathered on the web tide does not affect currents except where two large landmasses are on close proximity, e.g. Torres Strait.

Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
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NSW, 1317 posts
25 Sep 2015 7:39am
plenty here on tides ocean temp and swell,not much on the EAC
the swell buoys are very useful if you are going offshore or through a bar (or are a surfer )

new.mhl.nsw.gov.au/data/realtime/oceantide/

new.mhl.nsw.gov.au/docs/project_sheets/NSW%20Coastal%20Conference%202011%20OceanWaterLevels.pdf
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