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Naish prone surf + sup surf

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Created by Foam 4 months ago, 21 Jan 2019
Foam
WA, 700 posts
21 Jan 2019 1:49PM
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Was looking at the naish XL
I'm 87kg plus wetsuit
Max wave for prone would be 2ft
I'm rather confused if I need XL Vs large

JB
NSW, 1961 posts
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22 Jan 2019 12:30PM
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Hey Foam,

Here's a few questions,

- What type of surfing do you already do if any (i.e. Longboarding, shortboarding)?
- what is it that is drawing you to foiling? more along the line of super long glides, pumping out and linking up waves, downwinding or is it more doing amazing snowboard like turns at high speeds and getting that carving buzz?

Some insight.
At 87kg you can easily go either way and get tonnes of performance either way. With good technique you can pump out and link up on the Large wing, and the XL will carve and do turns better than you would imagine. But if I use myself for instance, the longest wave I ride is about 1.3km's (yes 1300m). It is bets when it's only about waist to chest high and has multiple sections with some long full swell riding connections involved. Normally I would recommend the XL for a wave like this, however I know I prefer the L 90% of time out there. mostly if I'm in a carving mood and want to feel the "G's". Same wave I also sometimes ride the XXL out there, but it is a totally different experience and honestly not as exciting. With the XL I can make the sections most of the time, but will get caught out on a big fast one, where as the Large I generally make them every time. The XXL I have to change waves each section, sometimes riding 3 or 4 waves as I can not ride fast enough. Each of these options is heaps of fun, but totally different styles of riding. The Large you will have to work a little harder in the fat sections, but get awesome pay back when it walls up and hits light speed allowing you to do more turns and still make it, the XL will easily cruise through the fat sections and make most speed sections but without many turns with the exception of the really fast ones which you won't make no matter how hard you try. The XXL easily shoots the flats but can not make the fast sections and wave transfers are required.

All the wings are different, and have different draw cards. I usually say relate them like this,

M - Performance Shortboard
L - Performance Fish or Stepdown Shortboard
XL - Performance Longboard or Mini-Mal
XXL - Ocean Kayak or Logger/Mal

All are fun in most conditions, some give a lot of lift for little effort but have limited top end performance and others make you work a little harder but pay it back in dividends at the top end.

I hope this helps,

Regards,

JB

Mwstard
54 posts
22 Jan 2019 3:44PM
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Great description, wish we had a wave like that nearby!
In the scenario you describe, are you using the standard rear wing or XL with the XL front wing?

Foam
WA, 700 posts
22 Jan 2019 6:08PM
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JB said..
Hey Foam,

Here's a few questions,

- What type of surfing do you already do if any (i.e. Longboarding, shortboarding)?
- what is it that is drawing you to foiling? more along the line of super long glides, pumping out and linking up waves, downwinding or is it more doing amazing snowboard like turns at high speeds and getting that carving buzz?

Some insight.
At 87kg you can easily go either way and get tonnes of performance either way. With good technique you can pump out and link up on the Large wing, and the XL will carve and do turns better than you would imagine. But if I use myself for instance, the longest wave I ride is about 1.3km's (yes 1300m). It is bets when it's only about waist to chest high and has multiple sections with some long full swell riding connections involved. Normally I would recommend the XL for a wave like this, however I know I prefer the L 90% of time out there. mostly if I'm in a carving mood and want to feel the "G's". Same wave I also sometimes ride the XXL out there, but it is a totally different experience and honestly not as exciting. With the XL I can make the sections most of the time, but will get caught out on a big fast one, where as the Large I generally make them every time. The XXL I have to change waves each section, sometimes riding 3 or 4 waves as I can not ride fast enough. Each of these options is heaps of fun, but totally different styles of riding. The Large you will have to work a little harder in the fat sections, but get awesome pay back when it walls up and hits light speed allowing you to do more turns and still make it, the XL will easily cruise through the fat sections and make most speed sections but without many turns with the exception of the really fast ones which you won't make no matter how hard you try. The XXL easily shoots the flats but can not make the fast sections and wave transfers are required.

All the wings are different, and have different draw cards. I usually say relate them like this,

M - Performance Shortboard
L - Performance Fish or Stepdown Shortboard
XL - Performance Longboard or Mini-Mal
XXL - Ocean Kayak or Logger/Mal

All are fun in most conditions, some give a lot of lift for little effort but have limited top end performance and others make you work a little harder but pay it back in dividends at the top end.

I hope this helps,

Regards,

JB


Hi jb

Thanks for the great info, to be honest I just want something easy and different.
I surf sup 8,5x29 starboard pro
When it's to small or a bit adverse I had the thought of prone surfing the foil mostly small 1ft waves Max 2ft .

I don't think I'll bother with sup foiling so much but as I understand it I can use the wings for any discipline .

At 87kg plus wettie and wanting to prone foil I though the XL naish but the large seems appealing also
But for a easy time of it and just a fun time the XL maybe



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