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Balin Downwinder vs Balin Monster Leash

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Created by Area10 A week ago, 8 Sep 2018
Area10
1350 posts
8 Sep 2018 5:46PM
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My favourite leash for non-surfing activities is the Balin Downwinder calf/knee leash. But they are sold out in Europe. There's a Balin Monster Coil 8mm double swivel knee SUP leash 10ft available and the description of it (with 1m of straight section plus a coiled section) makes it sound very similar to the Downwinder. So what's the difference between these two? No-one here locally (in the UK) seems to know.

Cheers for any info you have.

cbigsup
221 posts
9 Sep 2018 3:39AM
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Looked at the pic. Double swivel completely different than the Monster Coil Knee which is my all time favorite.

Almost impossible to get here in the US. But I have a couple.


Area10
1350 posts
9 Sep 2018 10:13PM
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Ok, so now I'm even more confused. I can't work out exactly what you are trying to tell me or show me. The picture you are showing me is not the same as the Balin Downwinder I have. We're you just showing me the Monster in the picture and then underneath the details for the Downwinder?

To reiterate, my problem is:

The Balin DWer leash I already have has a coil plus a metre-long straight section and a calf leash.

And the blurb at my local retailer for the Balin Monster leash says:

BALIN MONSTER COIL 8MM DOUBLE SWIVEL KNEE SUP LEASH
Features:
2x Naval brass swivels
8.0mm cord
Coil section with 1m straight
Detachable tail saver
20ft (3.1M)

So, is this blurb wrong, and the Monster leash does not actually have the metre-long straight section?

Or am I wrong, and the leash I actually have already isn't in fact a DWer, but a Monster?

cheers.

JEG
VIC, 861 posts
10 Sep 2018 7:28AM
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Area10 said..
Ok, so now I'm even more confused. I can't work out exactly what you are trying to tell me or show me. The picture you are showing me is not the same as the Balin Downwinder I have. We're you just showing me the Monster in the picture and then underneath the details for the Downwinder?

To reiterate, my problem is:

The Balin DWer leash I already have has a coil plus a metre-long straight section and a calf leash.

And the blurb at my local retailer for the Balin Monster leash says:

BALIN MONSTER COIL 8MM DOUBLE SWIVEL KNEE SUP LEASH
Features:
2x Naval brass swivels
8.0mm cord
Coil section with 1m straight
Detachable tail saver
20ft (3.1M)

So, is this blurb wrong, and the Monster leash does not actually have the metre-long straight section?

Or am I wrong, and the leash I actually have already isn't in fact a DWer, but a Monster?

cheers.


Area10, just message balin direct with your query - shop.balin.com.au/pages/contact-us-for-any-queries-regarding-sizes-colours-etc-or-even-where-you-can-view-a-product-close-to-you-wed-be-happy-to-help

DavidJohn
VIC, 15995 posts
10 Sep 2018 4:34PM
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Pretty sure the Balin Downwinder Leash is a shorter 2.1 meter coil leash that has no straight section and mostly used on UL boards that have a front or back mounting point.. and race SUP boards.. and pretty sure it was originally designed as a ankle cuff leash but now available in both.

The Balin Monster coil 3.1 meter SUP leash is the half straight and half coiled leash and was originally designed as a knee only cuff but they are also made in both.

I helped them design this leash and my thinking was to have a coil that drops from your knee cuff to your ankle and a straight section that goes from there to the leash plug at the tail of the board.. so if there is any part of the leash that drags off the rail of the board and into the water its that straight section causing less drag than a coil leash.. and also if you were to step onto it it's only ever going to be the straight section of the leash because stepping on a coil is not nice.

So.. although both knee and ankle cuffs are available I'd recommend the knee cuff.

Pretty sure the one you have is the 8mm 3.1 meter Monster coil SUP leash.

Area10
1350 posts
10 Sep 2018 3:01PM
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Ah, ok, that explains a lot...

The 3.1m one with a straight bit is definitely the one to have for my UL DW boards.

Has anyone here tried downwinding in strong winds with a 6ft coiled leash? I presume since it's only 6ft it might be designed to fasten to a front leash mount. What happens to the board if you wipe out in 35+ knots with a 6ft coiled leash fixed to the front of your board? It's dangerous enough sometimes on a UL board with a 12ft straight leash, even if you fall upwind.

Maybe the Balin DWer leash is intended just for very mild winds and front leash mounts, or elite racers who never fall?

I'm surprised that everyone else doesn't just use the Balin Monster Coil calf/knee for anything except surf. It's so good. If you were involved in the design of it DJ then respect to you.

cbigsup
221 posts
11 Sep 2018 12:41AM
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Thanks DJ for your reply. I have used my Monster Coil leashes on all of my surf sups as well as my raceboards.

Even took one apart and connected it to a waist belt!

Works a treat as you folks are inclined to say!



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