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Custom Sunova 10'4"

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Created by Hoppo3228 > 9 months ago, 23 Sep 2016
Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
23 Sep 2016 10:29PM
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Hey guys,

Just thought i'd share... :)

I picked up my new Custom Sunova today from DHL....

After much patience on Bert and the Sunova team's behalf we came up with the following:

10'4" x 28.5 x 4.1" - 140.4L - Perfomance Longboard; based off a 10'6" SURF; with some tweaks.

Compared to the standard SURF we:

reduced volume by 18L
narrowed it 1.5" and took 2" off the length
flattened the tail rocker to give it more performance / squirt off the tail
added a 4 + 1 fin set up
added a recessed deck (similar to a Nalu - but shallower)
changed the apex and shape of the rails (gave them a harder edge)
we also removed the sail mast mount and deck plugs
and finally added my nickname on the bottom ;)

I wasn't after a noserider at all as it's not really my style, I was looking for a "perfomance" longboard surfed off the tail like a short prone surfboard with added glide for long point break conditions up to around 1.5 x OH.

I didn't want to go too low in volume as I want this to be a wave catching machine for 3 hour + sessions...BTW I hover between 100-105kg...

I love the smooth ride, construction, look and customisation offered by Sunova so I never considered another brand.

Hopefully the conditions tomorrow are good!

Here's a pic of me playing around with the fin set up... I'm going to try the quad set up first.








I hope they don't mind me sharing the design pics...


cantSUPenough
VIC, 1751 posts
24 Sep 2016 1:53AM
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Nice looking board! Is the brown image a representation of the top of the board? Is that something like what they are planning for the Shroom?

I reckon it's pretty cool that they are willing to work with a customer on such a unique design. I know there are Aussie shapers who will do that, but getting Bert Berger involved is really something!

Casso
NSW, 3526 posts
24 Sep 2016 1:22PM
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Wow - looks epic. Can't wait to hear how it goes!

Tino42
85 posts
24 Sep 2016 11:34AM
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Hoppo3228 said...

I picked up my new Custom Sunova today from DHL....

After much patience on Bert and the Sunova team's behalf we came up with the following:

I hope they don't mind me sharing the design pics...



Hey Hoppo!
Sharing is caring. We are an open source company ;-)

Thanx for your stoke. Now get that baby wet and let's see some more pics.

Thanx
Tino

supthecreek
1688 posts
24 Sep 2016 12:50PM
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Hoppo.... that looks freeking great!

I like what you have done.... tonight I was writing about how good the 10'6 Surf performance is, and I think I would really like your board!

Enjoy it and break out the video cam!

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
24 Sep 2016 3:27PM
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cantSUPenough said..
Nice looking board! Is the brown image a representation of the top of the board? Is that something like what they are planning for the Shroom?

I reckon it's pretty cool that they are willing to work with a customer on such a unique design. I know there are Aussie shapers who will do that, but getting Bert Berger involved is really something!


Yeah, It's a 3d drawing of the deck. I have them also for the bottom and rocker, but they are not as interesting.

The shroom is much more of a concave deck to make a wide board more responsive, what we did on mine was so I could have a totally flat deck. The brown pic makes it look quite deep, wheras in reality it might be 5mm deep.

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
24 Sep 2016 3:37PM
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I took it out in absolute rubbish this morning and caught a couple of waves, and didn't fall in that much considering the conditions. I did need to keep moving however, but that will be different on calmer conditions and when I get used to it.

I asked Bert will it be more stable than my 9'2" Speeed and he said in a round about way; it'll be 10% more stable. I'll say easily 10% more stable.

Just from the few waves I caught I could tell straight away that this thing is gonna rock my socks off in good conditions.

Very happy!




Casso
NSW, 3526 posts
24 Sep 2016 4:43PM
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Hoppo3228 said..
I took it out in absolute rubbish this morning and caught a couple of waves, and didn't fall in that much considering the conditions. I did need to keep moving however, but that will be different on calmer conditions and when I get used to it.

I asked Bert will it be more stable than my 9'2" Speeed and he said in a round about way; it'll be 10% more stable. I'll say easily 10% more stable.

Just from the few waves I caught I could tell straight away that this thing is gonna rock my socks off in good conditions.

Very happy!






Yeeew

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
24 Sep 2016 9:30PM
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supthecreek said..
Hoppo.... that looks freeking great!

I like what you have done.... tonight I was writing about how good the 10'6 Surf performance is, and I think I would really like your board!

Enjoy it and break out the video cam!



Hey STC,

if you're ever downunder, around Bells, you can take it for a spin anytime!

Thanks Casso!

billekrub
76 posts
9 Mar 2017 9:09PM
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Interested in how the Hoppo custom Surf has fared. Learned anything since? Compared to 9/2, for example.

surfinJ
422 posts
9 Mar 2017 10:43PM
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I never saw hoppos post back when I also went for a custom thinned out 5 box Surf. Already having a 28" wide perf longboard shape I went wider to 31 to have a real anyday board as the 28" is too much work at my 95kgs in the messy stuff. I started out single finning 7-9"s which was fine but I'm now loving as a quad. While it's stable as hell the performance is there as well

Bert is just one of many shaping pros out there and I would have supported a local one if it were available. But for me the whole interchange with him on the shape, the delivery to me all the way over here and the quality of the board's construction worked out great.

Here's a vid of this beauty set up with PSH quads.

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
10 Mar 2017 11:31AM
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billekrub said..
Interested in how the Hoppo custom Surf has fared. Learned anything since? Compared to 9/2, for example.








I've now had it for 6 months, used in varied spring / summer conditions, with different fin set ups etc.

For me:

- It can be a bit tricky to stand in heavy chop (at 107kg + gear), but in smoothish stuff it's fine.
- It rocks when the waves have a bit of power in them
- Allows me to do top turns on smaller surf and not come off the back like the 9'2" Speeed did.
- has plenty of glide
- It's smooth and loves speed!!!
- has the skatey feel I wanted due to the hard edge on the rails
- so far works best as a 2+1 with small/med sides with a 7.5 centre - too stiff as a quad and too stiff as a 2+1 with large sides for the average conditions its been used in, havn't tried a Single yet.
- slow to pivot when turning to try and catch a wave compared to my shortboard style board, but changing technique is fine
- is very tough and is light enough

What would I change if I bought another:

- wouldn't bother with the 4+1
- would give the deck more of a dome to thin the rails through the middle more and not bother with the recessed deck.
- lose 10kg (i'm working on that ) so I could make it a 120L ish board
- change handle to a ledge style handle (but don't know if Sunova are willing to option that)
- maybe do a full deck pad (cos I have nose ridden it a bit)

Compared to the 9'2" Speeed:

- It has way more glide
- easier to stand on even though it's 2" narrower
- has more drive in turns (cos of the rocker through the tail) and does not snap quite as quickly - I guess that's from the hip in the speeeds outline : but there is not much in it.
- way easier to catch smaller waves in strong offshore's which was one of my peeves of the Speeed
- is more fun in smaller waves as it's more maneuverable from the middle, or just back from middle
- just as fun in bigger surf

Other Observations:

Wasn't finished quite as well as the stock Speeed was; deck pad not quite on straight at the tail; slightly uneven sanding on the bottom and rails; with fins in, the carry handle isn't quite on the balance point.

Conclusion:

I'm more than happy overall and would certainly buy a Sunova again. Bert, Tino and the boys were great to deal with directly. The board does exactly what I asked it to do when we were speccing it. I do prefer it to the Speeed overall for everyday conditions. Overall finish was good but not perfect.

Langers
VIC, 69 posts
10 Mar 2017 12:00PM
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Like to see it someday Hoppo. Wheres your favorite spot .

McGuane
TAS, 480 posts
10 Mar 2017 12:00PM
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Great report. Great thread.

PS. Just as far as deck grip / traction goes. I've got this stuff on the front of my Speeed and I love it.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/RSPro-Traction-Grip?page=1
Cheers.

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
10 Mar 2017 12:55PM
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McGuane said..
Great report. Great thread.

PS. Just as far as deck grip / traction goes. I've got this stuff on the front of my Speeed and I love it.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/RSPro-Traction-Grip?page=1
Cheers.


Yeah, i've got that on all of my boards

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
10 Mar 2017 12:56PM
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Langers said..
Like to see it someday Hoppo. Wheres your favorite spot .


Mostly around Torquay and Anglesea - Roaknight, Urquarts, Torquay Point etc

dools111
VIC, 41 posts
10 Mar 2017 3:26PM
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hey hoppo i might see you around the traps - i'm local to bells area too, and have picked up a custom sunova speed 2nd hand off this site at 9 5, 30 wide, quite a bit thinner and with a flatter deck than std, more rounded nose and tail v pulled in, comes in at 135 litres... have had a 8 8 speed in the past, this one is my easy fun board, using it as my longboard/ cruising sup and loving it. also think it will be great in some juice... has a US fin box and currently using 2 + 1 but will try as a single soon (agree with comments in other posts re the sunova fin boxes being loose, couldn't use a new FCS II longboard fin i bought with it as it would fall out). only been out in crap so far, lets get rid of those easterlies!

Slab
901 posts
10 Mar 2017 2:13PM
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Was interested to see the drawings early on and that it was based on the 10 6 Surf. Does anyone know if the Surf and Style has a similar rocker line or is the Surf a wee bit more banana like?

BRodd
SA, 13 posts
10 Mar 2017 5:58PM
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Hey SurfinJ,

Loved the clip. Surfing looked great, BUT, Jethro Tull. YEEEWW.

Why don't more people use this music on their clips!

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
10 Mar 2017 7:13PM
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Slab said..
Was interested to see the drawings early on and that it was based on the 10 6 Surf. Does anyone know if the Surf and Style has a similar rocker line or is the Surf a wee bit more banana like?


The Style has a much more pronounced tail flip and less rocker through the front.

Hoppo3228
VIC, 297 posts
10 Mar 2017 7:15PM
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dools111 said..
hey hoppo i might see you around the traps - i'm local to bells area too, and have picked up a custom sunova speed 2nd hand off this site at 9 5, 30 wide, quite a bit thinner and with a flatter deck than std, more rounded nose and tail v pulled in, comes in at 135 litres... have had a 8 8 speed in the past, this one is my easy fun board, using it as my longboard/ cruising sup and loving it. also think it will be great in some juice... has a US fin box and currently using 2 + 1 but will try as a single soon (agree with comments in other posts re the sunova fin boxes being loose, couldn't use a new FCS II longboard fin i bought with it as it would fall out). only been out in crap so far, lets get rid of those easterlies!


Sounds cool.

I lost a FCS 2 Box fin at OG on my second day with one...never again!

Damn Easterlies!!!!



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