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Futures fins - what do you use?

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Created by Fepsi 1 month ago, 12 Feb 2019
Fepsi
NSW, 71 posts
12 Feb 2019 10:19PM
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Just tried Craig Anderson futures and HS1 on my Prowave - wow, totally transformed the board. Ando's loosened up the board and fast but predictable in small head high point break. HS1 had a nice carve feel but easy tail slides and loves the pocket...hope I get to try them in decent waves soon
Keen to hear what other futures are being used out there

Zeusman
NSW, 1223 posts
14 Feb 2019 12:42PM
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FireWire Quads are awesome!
so are the John John Florence thrusters

benjl
203 posts
14 Feb 2019 3:19PM
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I've had the jjf thrusters on a surfboard and loved them too.

my favourite fins are the futures EA quads in fibreglass. It's the only quad set I've ever liked, has gone well on every single sup I've tried! Fast, loose and can hold big stuff.

for a thruster, a template like the am1 style

MattBailey
NSW, 39 posts
14 Feb 2019 7:22PM
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I loved the Josh Kerr 3d fins in my prowave. Noticeable difference in speed and therefore 'nimbleness'

benjl
203 posts
14 Feb 2019 4:38PM
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Hey mate, I have a set of the 3d Fins,
although mine are quad. I found mine quite stiff and slow compared to thrusters?

Which were yours?

colas
3008 posts
14 Feb 2019 6:10PM
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I do not use boards with future boxes, but I would definitively use Quobba fins in them, no question!

For FCS II boxes, quobba fins have the drawback of having to use screws, but there is no reason not to use quobba fins in future boxes.

Kami
1312 posts
14 Feb 2019 9:28PM
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Because of being sealed flush and square to the bottom surface Futures Boxes or FCS II boxes don't allow to play with different fin cant angles. This cant angle once the toe has been chosen is the only way to tune up the board from the fin position. Buying another fin is less a matter of fin template or foil but more a matter of cant.
Only the old system from FCS allows playing around the approximative 5? of the cant side fins without buying those expensive fins.

Zeusman
NSW, 1223 posts
15 Feb 2019 6:05AM
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Kami said..
Because of being sealed flush and square to the bottom surface Futures Boxes or FCS II boxes don't allow to play with different fin cant angles. This cant angle once the toe has been chosen is the only way to tune up the board from the fin position. Buying another fin is less a matter of fin template or foil but more a matter of cant.
Only the old system from FCS allows playing around the approximative 5? of the cant side fins without buying those expensive fins.


I thought that each futures find set has different cant set into them where the base connects to the beginning of the fin:

Slatz
NSW, 150 posts
15 Feb 2019 9:25AM
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I am a big fan of futures - well the plugs anyway. I feel they are the strongest plugs especially in EPS foam.As for fins, I constantly change my fins, trying different sizes, materials and even swapping around the back fin or front fins and mixing up sets. I designed a thruster set & quad set and got them made, they had a carbon base with hex core which gave the base less flex to give drive but allowed the tips to still flex to give that needed squirt.

I like the 3D fins and use them a lot too, I like the front set of the Christian Fletcher set but find the rear fins too big for quads so use a smaller set in the rear. I would like to test the channel tip Jamie O'Brien ones to see if that makes a difference.

Flex is really important, I find plastic fins way too flexy and feel they cavitate too much making the board all jittery, but then carbon fins for example are way too stiff and you loose that squirt through turns. It's a matter of finding a happy medium to suit your own style of surfing.

I am currently experimenting with some fins where we put 2 different sized hex core in the fin to try get a different flex around half way up the fin, we also cut a small wedge out of the trailing edge to add more flex.

But what works insane on 1 board, may go like crap on the next board so just keep trying new things. You don't have to own a heap of sets either, just mix and match and find what works

Johndesu
NSW, 207 posts
15 Feb 2019 3:46PM
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Slatz said..
I am a big fan of futures - well the plugs anyway. I feel they are the strongest plugs especially in EPS foam.As for fins, I constantly change my fins, trying different sizes, materials and even swapping around the back fin or front fins and mixing up sets. I designed a thruster set & quad set and got them made, they had a carbon base with hex core which gave the base less flex to give drive but allowed the tips to still flex to give that needed squirt.

I like the 3D fins and use them a lot too, I like the front set of the Christian Fletcher set but find the rear fins too big for quads so use a smaller set in the rear. I would like to test the channel tip Jamie O'Brien ones to see if that makes a difference.

Flex is really important, I find plastic fins way too flexy and feel they cavitate too much making the board all jittery, but then carbon fins for example are way too stiff and you loose that squirt through turns. It's a matter of finding a happy medium to suit your own style of surfing.

I am currently experimenting with some fins where we put 2 different sized hex core in the fin to try get a different flex around half way up the fin, we also cut a small wedge out of the trailing edge to add more flex.

But what works insane on 1 board, may go like crap on the next board so just keep trying new things. You don't have to own a heap of sets either, just mix and match and find what works



I use old plastic fins like the white ish FCS SF4 or any black plastic fins when the waves are small because they flex so much that you get more out of your waves when it is very small or tiny, also if you scratch them on the reef or rocks it does not matter so much. But when the waves are more then a few feet then stiffer fins are of course much better:-)

Kami
1312 posts
15 Feb 2019 2:08PM
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Zeusman said..

Kami said..
Because of being sealed flush and square to the bottom surface Futures Boxes or FCS II boxes don't allow to play with different fin cant angles. This cant angle once the toe has been chosen is the only way to tune up the board from the fin position. Buying another fin is less a matter of fin template or foil but more a matter of cant.
Only the old system from FCS allows playing around the approximative 5? of the cant side fins without buying those expensive fins.



I thought that each futures find set has different cant set into them where the base connects to the beginning of the fin:


Yes, Zeusman Futures have cant set into the base fin. But it should have different cant for every kind of fins. I mean when a board get more or less concave the settled fin has still the same cant relative to the surface where the fin is settled but not from the whole planning area and rail which is the most important feature.

MattBailey
NSW, 39 posts
13 Mar 2019 9:33PM
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A set of Josh Kerr (biggest available) by 3d made a noticeable improvement.definitely try some of the 3D ones - makes the board get up and moving faster for sure...



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