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Jimmy Lewis Tai Stick

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Created by Donpolski 30 days ago, 17 Nov 2017
Donpolski
4 posts
17 Nov 2017 6:09PM
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Just snapped (creased?) my 9'6 Jimmy Lewis Tai Stick in relatively small surf after buying it brand new and riding it for about 2 months. Very disappointing. Was told this is just par for the course, but not convinced. Anyone else has problems likes this? Previously owned a 9'6 Ultimate Noserider and it was like new after copping a hiding for 6 years. Just really disappointed in snapping a brand new board in small surf. 1 star.

colas
2229 posts
17 Nov 2017 6:55PM
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I was lucky it didn't happen to me yet, but frankly, it is just a question of bad luck: being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Small waves can snap boards because the nose can easily block against the bottom. Big waves can snap board with the sheer water force. Fat waves can break board if they hollow up for a second with a backwash...

Careful riders know how to avoid the risky situations, but fate will always win.

Leroy13
VIC, 1170 posts
18 Nov 2017 12:17AM
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Have you talked to Jimmy Lewis before getting on and bad mouthing? FFS. Let people know if a retailer is being a ****. Don't bag the brand. It's common sense. Not very common I'm afraid. I have never owned a Jimmy Lewis but I have seen too many heroes quickly vilify a class act because of either affiliations with other brands or just plain STUPIDITY. When you have an unsatisfactory or satisfactory comment from your retailer let us know. In the meantime deal with it like a human not a lemming. I don't know why I bother but injustice is plain disturbing. Colas is spot on.

PS I LOVE A RANT AFTER a quarter of a good single malt -Glenlivet - Bloody Beautiful!!
Take the problem with a grain of salt but remember it if it happens again. Surfing for 50 and Supping for 9. Never had anything like that. Maybe I don't take off on 6ft Beach Break Board snappers. It'll no doubt happen this weekend for sure now!

colas
2229 posts
17 Nov 2017 10:54PM
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Also, I didn't knew what was a Tai Stick. I thought it was a SUP model.
JL Web site says: "The Tai Stick is a thinner performance long board."
jimmylewis.com/shop/tai-stick/

You have your answer: long, wide and thin is much more sensitive to breakage. It is just plain physics. If you use a thin longboard in powerful waves, breakage probability will rise. The first prone longboard I bought (from a French legendary shaper) broke on my second session on chest high waves. I bought my next longboards from the same shaper and never had an issue, except I was now careful to not expose my longboards to hollow conditions.

If you want to use a longboard in hollow conditions, try to use shapes with more pulled-in nose and tail to reduce water leverage, with a stronger stringer and glass job (carbon is a good idea), especially in the rails. A domed deck with a thicker centerline will also help.

Donpolski
4 posts
18 Nov 2017 4:26AM
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Leroy13 said..
Have you talked to Jimmy Lewis before getting on and bad mouthing? FFS. Let people know if a retailer is being a ****. Don't bag the brand. It's common sense. Not very common I'm afraid. I have never owned a Jimmy Lewis but I have seen too many heroes quickly vilify a class act because of either affiliations with other brands or just plain STUPIDITY. When you have an unsatisfactory or satisfactory comment from your retailer let us know. In the meantime deal with it like a human not a lemming. I don't know why I bother but injustice is plain disturbing. Colas is spot on.

PS I LOVE A RANT AFTER a quarter of a good single malt -Glenlivet - Bloody Beautiful!!
Take the problem with a grain of salt but remember it if it happens again. Surfing for 50 and Supping for 9. Never had anything like that. Maybe I don't take off on 6ft Beach Break Board snappers. It'll no doubt happen this weekend for sure now!


Yeah mate, I have so GFY. Was given short shrift by them and pissed off because I just forked out a grand for an epoxy board that I hoped would be strong but obviously isn't. It wasn't what you'd call 6' in Australia, it's what we call 3'. Apparently this 'never happens', well it has now so maybe I should be proud I'm the first?

18 Nov 2017 8:37AM
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Funnily enough the customer forgot to mention HE told me he "crunched" it in the shore break! I ride a 9'1 Tai Stick & have had no problems with mine & it doesn't even have a dent in the deck from my knee from duck diving or my feet from surfing it... I've ridden it in 2-6' waves & never had a problem but I guess i don't run it into the shorey....
Nature of the sport & I've sold surfboards & sup's for over 20 years & anything will break/crease when put in the wrong spot....Especially in small waves/sandbanks & shore breaks...

Slab
788 posts
18 Nov 2017 6:13AM
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Jimmy's construction is very tough....but all boards can break if you dig the nose into the sand etc

Gone to dark side
NSW, 317 posts
18 Nov 2017 9:52AM
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Welcome to seabreezes Donpolski Love first posts that is a whinge . I have had Jimmy Lewis boards never had any problems.

Bowerboy
NSW, 62 posts
18 Nov 2017 9:57AM
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I think the hire fleet of Jimmy Lewis sups in sanur Bali is testament to how strong they are. These boards have copped a pounding in serious surf for years and are still going.

1fox
122 posts
18 Nov 2017 8:35AM
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IMO JL (sup) boards have the most reliable construction.

juniorburger
14 posts
18 Nov 2017 4:56PM
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Full disclosure, I work for Sunova and I'm happy to say that Jimmy's boards are one of the most well constructed on the market, they come out of an amazing factory and I rarely hear anyone giving them a bad rap compared to other big brands!!

Im sorry that you've had a bad experience mate, but unfortunately if a board is in the wrong spot at the wrong time it's going to break, it's just the way it is!!

Donpolski
4 posts
18 Nov 2017 6:51PM
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Like I stated in my original post, I had a JL Ultimate Noserider for 6 years that was like new after copping a pounding. I'm not trying to just bag the brand. I also snapped a McTavish EVO II after 12 months, which is the reason I decided to go back to an epoxy board. I was just shocked at how easily it snapped. Anyway, as the retailer pointed out to me, I'm on the wrong forum and I just want to have a rant. I'll get on the right forum. Bye

Donpolski
4 posts
18 Nov 2017 7:09PM
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Jimmy Lewis Boards said..
Funnily enough the customer forgot to mention HE told me he "crunched" it in the shore break! I ride a 9'1 Tai Stick & have had no problems with mine & it doesn't even have a dent in the deck from my knee from duck diving or my feet from surfing it... I've ridden it in 2-6' waves & never had a problem but I guess i don't run it into the shorey....
Nature of the sport & I've sold surfboards & sup's for over 20 years & anything will break/crease when put in the wrong spot....Especially in small waves/sandbanks & shore breaks...


I don't remember telling you that I crunched it in the shorebreak, I think I said something about there being a crunching shorebreak. Anyway, instead of accusing me of 'never being happy' and 'never wanting to accept responsibility', maybe you should look at your own business model and read my post, I said I had a JL Ultimate Noserider for 6 years that never had a ding. The customer is always right mate

viatormundi
80 posts
19 Nov 2017 4:03AM
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Jimmy Lewis boards that I have used had very good build quality. This discussion should be in a surf forum not in a SUP forum IMHO.

bigmc
NSW, 118 posts
19 Nov 2017 7:09AM
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This happens ..... unfortunately. I had a 8'10" chunky brand name SUP. Creased it in 2ft dribble. Fell of the back, got back on the board and it was creased. Just couldn't believe that it happened in that weak surf.

808-Obsession
QLD, 258 posts
19 Nov 2017 9:08AM
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It's probably possible to build an indestructible SUP or surfboard but...it would likely weigh 30kgs and be useless for anything other than a bench seat. Reality is, the amount of hydro-dynamic force generated by waves/rivers etc. is enough to carve out rock over time - combine that with a hard surface (sand) and not much will stand up to it. Yes - it absolutely sucks when you break a board, and it's costly & painful, but you really can't blame it on poor construction (unless it's blatantly obvious) - sometimes it's just wrong place/wrong time and there's nothing that can be done about it. Feel for you, I do, but I also feel for the manufacturer being smashed in public forum

Slab
788 posts
19 Nov 2017 1:57PM
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808-Obsession said..
It's probably possible to build an indestructible SUP or surfboard but...it would likely weigh 30kgs and be useless for anything other than a bench seat. Reality is, the amount of hydro-dynamic force generated by waves/rivers etc. is enough to carve out rock over time - combine that with a hard surface (sand) and not much will stand up to it. Yes - it absolutely sucks when you break a board, and it's costly & painful, but you really can't blame it on poor construction (unless it's blatantly obvious) - sometimes it's just wrong place/wrong time and there's nothing that can be done about it. Feel for you, I do, but I also feel for the manufacturer being smashed in public forum


I? don't think the JL brand will suffer at all....infact the post has shown that the overwhelming number of folk who own JL rate them highly for the construction being tougher than most other top brands. I? have two and both in great nick....well used.

supthecreek
1279 posts
19 Nov 2017 8:14PM
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In the 90's I broke 2 longboards in 2 hours.

After the 1st one broke, I ran across the street and bought a new, top name brand..... broke that a hour later. Great session, bad luck

Slab
788 posts
19 Nov 2017 10:12PM
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supthecreek said..
In the 90's I broke 2 longboards in 2 hours.

After the 1st one broke, I ran across the street and bought a new, top name brand..... broke that a hour later. Great session, bad luck


Your surf looks pretty mean at times so not surprised!

broadman
QLD, 123 posts
20 Nov 2017 4:37AM
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Top boards, Top bloke. Profile pic is an m14. Surfed it in up to 4ft, got some real poundings and survived them all.



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