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SIC Bullet 12'6'' vs Starboard Generation

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Created by mattinsalto A week ago, 16 Oct 2020
mattinsalto
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16 Oct 2020 8:34PM
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Hello,
I have been paddling in an iSUP for two years now and I want to switch to a rigid board. I weight 100Kg (I am overweight. The idea is to lose weight until 90Kg or less). I want an allround board mainly for touring, but also for surfing small waves and occasional downwinding. I can't store a board longer than 12'6'' so I was thinking of getting a SIC Bullet 12'6''x30'' or the new Starboard Generation 12'6''x28''. I am afraid the Generation wouldn't be stable enough. What do you think about it? I prefer the Starboard because the price (Lite Tech) and because I suppose it will be faster than the bullet, but probably the Bullet will be more stable. I like to paddle in open water where conditions aren't always good so stability is a good thing to have.
Any other recommendations are welcome.
Thanks in advance

robon
102 posts
17 Oct 2020 6:02AM
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I have checked out the SB Generation in a shop, but haven't been able to paddle one yet. One thing to keep in mind is the Generation is fairly low volume, and while it checks the boxes for a surfing 12'6", at 100kg, it might sit a smidge lower in the water than you would want for touring and DW. It would be good to try out first if you can.

The new version of the Bullet 12'6" x 28.5" has an uptick in volume to 266L compared to 237L for the previous model, so you may want to have a go on the 28.5" Bullet as well because it looks good on paper. I had the previous version Bullet at 12'6" x 28" weighing 98-100kgs, and it was ok casual touring in flat water, but it sat too low in the water for DW, and rough conditions. Doable, but not optimum at my weight.

I typically gain a lot of weight in winter myself, and it makes a huge difference for paddling performance on a wider variety of boards when I get down below 95kgs. In that 90kg range, you are very likely going to get much better performance out of boards in that 28" wide range like the Generation and Bullet. The 30" wide Bullet is likely very stable and I'm interested in getting a 12'6" Bullet myself.

BigZ
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17 Oct 2020 7:14AM
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mattinsalto said..
Hello,
I have been paddling in an iSUP for two years now and I want to switch to a rigid board. I weight 100Kg (I am overweight. The idea is to lose weight until 90Kg or less). I want an allround board mainly for touring, but also for surfing small waves and occasional downwinding. I can't store a board longer than 12'6'' so I was thinking of getting a SIC Bullet 12'6''x30'' or the new Starboard Generation 12'6''x28''. I am afraid the Generation wouldn't be stable enough. What do you think about it? I prefer the Starboard because the price (Lite Tech) and because I suppose it will be faster than the bullet, but probably the Bullet will be more stable. I like to paddle in open water where conditions aren't always good so stability is a good thing to have.
Any other recommendations are welcome.
Thanks in advance


At your weight don't bother with 12'6 board. It will be a big compromise for both downwinding and surfing. And not optimal for touring. Invest in a good 14 footer. For surfing get a used surf SUP. There is tons of them at really good prices if you do some searching. Your first Surf SUP will be transitional so there is no point in overpaying. Anything decent will work. Your 14 footer will last you a long time so it makes sense to spend money up front.

mattinsalto
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18 Oct 2020 2:50AM
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robon said..
I have checked out the SB Generation in a shop, but haven't been able to paddle one yet. One thing to keep in mind is the Generation is fairly low volume, and while it checks the boxes for a surfing 12'6", at 100kg, it might sit a smidge lower in the water than you would want for touring and DW. It would be good to try out first if you can.

The new version of the Bullet 12'6" x 28.5" has an uptick in volume to 266L compared to 237L for the previous model, so you may want to have a go on the 28.5" Bullet as well because it looks good on paper. I had the previous version Bullet at 12'6" x 28" weighing 98-100kgs, and it was ok casual touring in flat water, but it sat too low in the water for DW, and rough conditions. Doable, but not optimum at my weight.

I typically gain a lot of weight in winter myself, and it makes a huge difference for paddling performance on a wider variety of boards when I get down below 95kgs. In that 90kg range, you are very likely going to get much better performance out of boards in that 28" wide range like the Generation and Bullet. The 30" wide Bullet is likely very stable and I'm interested in getting a 12'6" Bullet myself.



Hi Robon, thanks for the response.
It would be great if I could test the boards before buying them, but where I live (San Sebastian, Basque Country) there are no SUP shops. In some surf shops, they sell SUP boards, but only short surf SUP boards. There are places near where they sell touring boards, but I didn't find a place where they sell mentioned boards.
I am considering other board too, but it has even less volume. It is the GONG SUP PERV FSP 2X 12'6''x30 at only 200L. It is a very well made board (full pvc sandwich) at incredibly low price. So I gess the way to go is to lose as much weight as posible or get the Bullet.

mattinsalto
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18 Oct 2020 2:59AM
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mattinsalto said..
Hello,
I have been paddling in an iSUP for two years now and I want to switch to a rigid board. I weight 100Kg (I am overweight. The idea is to lose weight until 90Kg or less). I want an allround board mainly for touring, but also for surfing small waves and occasional downwinding. I can't store a board longer than 12'6'' so I was thinking of getting a SIC Bullet 12'6''x30'' or the new Starboard Generation 12'6''x28''. I am afraid the Generation wouldn't be stable enough. What do you think about it? I prefer the Starboard because the price (Lite Tech) and because I suppose it will be faster than the bullet, but probably the Bullet will be more stable. I like to paddle in open water where conditions aren't always good so stability is a good thing to have.
Any other recommendations are welcome.
Thanks in advance




At your weight don't bother with 12'6 board. It will be a big compromise for both downwinding and surfing. And not optimal for touring. Invest in a good 14 footer. For surfing get a used surf SUP. There is tons of them at really good prices if you do some searching. Your first Surf SUP will be transitional so there is no point in overpaying. Anything decent will work. Your 14 footer will last you a long time so it makes sense to spend money up front.




Thanks for the advise, but I can't store boards longer than 12'6''. Regarding the surf board, yes, may be the best options is to get a used one.

BigZ
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18 Oct 2020 3:37AM
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BigZ said..



mattinsalto said..
Hello,
I have been paddling in an iSUP for two years now and I want to switch to a rigid board. I weight 100Kg (I am overweight. The idea is to lose weight until 90Kg or less). I want an allround board mainly for touring, but also for surfing small waves and occasional downwinding. I can't store a board longer than 12'6'' so I was thinking of getting a SIC Bullet 12'6''x30'' or the new Starboard Generation 12'6''x28''. I am afraid the Generation wouldn't be stable enough. What do you think about it? I prefer the Starboard because the price (Lite Tech) and because I suppose it will be faster than the bullet, but probably the Bullet will be more stable. I like to paddle in open water where conditions aren't always good so stability is a good thing to have.
Any other recommendations are welcome.
Thanks in advance





At your weight don't bother with 12'6 board. It will be a big compromise for both downwinding and surfing. And not optimal for touring. Invest in a good 14 footer. For surfing get a used surf SUP. There is tons of them at really good prices if you do some searching. Your first Surf SUP will be transitional so there is no point in overpaying. Anything decent will work. Your 14 footer will last you a long time so it makes sense to spend money up front.





Thanks for the advise, but I can't store boards longer than 12'6''. Regarding the surf board, yes, may be the best options is to get a used one.


Sorry. Missed that bit in the original post.

BigZ
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18 Oct 2020 3:37AM
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BigZ said..



mattinsalto said..
Hello,
I have been paddling in an iSUP for two years now and I want to switch to a rigid board. I weight 100Kg (I am overweight. The idea is to lose weight until 90Kg or less). I want an allround board mainly for touring, but also for surfing small waves and occasional downwinding. I can't store a board longer than 12'6'' so I was thinking of getting a SIC Bullet 12'6''x30'' or the new Starboard Generation 12'6''x28''. I am afraid the Generation wouldn't be stable enough. What do you think about it? I prefer the Starboard because the price (Lite Tech) and because I suppose it will be faster than the bullet, but probably the Bullet will be more stable. I like to paddle in open water where conditions aren't always good so stability is a good thing to have.
Any other recommendations are welcome.
Thanks in advance





At your weight don't bother with 12'6 board. It will be a big compromise for both downwinding and surfing. And not optimal for touring. Invest in a good 14 footer. For surfing get a used surf SUP. There is tons of them at really good prices if you do some searching. Your first Surf SUP will be transitional so there is no point in overpaying. Anything decent will work. Your 14 footer will last you a long time so it makes sense to spend money up front.





Thanks for the advise, but I can't store boards longer than 12'6''. Regarding the surf board, yes, may be the best options is to get a used one.


Sorry. Missed that bit in the original post.

Gboots
NSW, 1003 posts
18 Oct 2020 7:57AM
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A two piece could be an option of you still want 14 foot . Sunova do these .
If you want it more for small waves or flat water maybe better to do go for something like a Sunova Search (12 foot or two piece at 14 foot). I have an Atlantis Venom 12 foot and it is great in small waves and as a paddler but I am 60kg dry .
If you want to downwind I reckon you need a specific 14 footer as mentioned above

mattinsalto
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Monday , 19 Oct 2020 6:22AM
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Gboots said..
A two piece could be an option of you still want 14 foot . Sunova do these .
If you want it more for small waves or flat water maybe better to do go for something like a Sunova Search (12 foot or two piece at 14 foot). I have an Atlantis Venom 12 foot and it is great in small waves and as a paddler but I am 60kg dry .
If you want to downwind I reckon you need a specific 14 footer as mentioned above



The two piece is amazing, but would it last? Do you think a Sunova Search will be better for flat water? It is only 179L in 12'6''

On another subject, anyone knows why is so much weight difference between SIC Bullet 12'6''x28.5'' and 12'6''x30'' ? The 28.5'' weights 29.1 lbs and the 30'' 31.8lbs . Sounds too much weight (2.7 lbs or 1.23Kg) for only 1.5'' differenece, doesn't it? I mean, if we divide 29.1/28.5, gives us a 1.02lbs per inch ratio, so if we add 1.5'' seems logical to think the weight will rise 1.02x1.5 = 1.53lbs, but no, it weights 2.7 lbs more. I can understand that could be a little bit more than the average 1.02lbs per inch, but sounds too much difference for me. If we calculate a volume / weight ratio it would be 266L / 29.1 = 9.14 liters per lbs. If we add 14L (the difference between the two models) should add 14/9.14 = 1.53lbs. The same result as in the lbs per inch ratio. But almost doubles the ratio. Sorry my english, I hope is understandable.

rockmagnet
QLD, 1412 posts
Monday , 19 Oct 2020 11:17AM
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I looked at all these options for a flat water cruiser that would let me catch smaller waves as well. I settled on the Sunova point break at 12'.
It's not the fastest board on the water but it ticked all the boxes for me. Its also a really solid board as well and will outlast most fragile race boards.

mattinsalto
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Monday , 19 Oct 2020 5:34PM
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rockmagnet said..
I looked at all these options for a flat water cruiser that would let me catch smaller waves as well. I settled on the Sunova point break at 12'.
It's not the fastest board on the water but it ticked all the boxes for me. Its also a really solid board as well and will outlast most fragile race boards.



It seems a good choice too. In case I go for something similar to the Search or Point Break, I will get the Gong Sup Perv. 12'6''x30'' (200L)

mattinsalto
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Tuesday , 20 Oct 2020 8:31PM
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Gboots said..
A two piece could be an option of you still want 14 foot . Sunova do these .
If you want it more for small waves or flat water maybe better to do go for something like a Sunova Search (12 foot or two piece at 14 foot). I have an Atlantis Venom 12 foot and it is great in small waves and as a paddler but I am 60kg dry .
If you want to downwind I reckon you need a specific 14 footer as mentioned above





The two piece is amazing, but would it last? Do you think a Sunova Search will be better for flat water? It is only 179L in 12'6''

On another subject, anyone knows why is so much weight difference between SIC Bullet 12'6''x28.5'' and 12'6''x30'' ? The 28.5'' weights 29.1 lbs and the 30'' 31.8lbs . Sounds too much weight (2.7 lbs or 1.23Kg) for only 1.5'' differenece, doesn't it? I mean, if we divide 29.1/28.5, gives us a 1.02lbs per inch ratio, so if we add 1.5'' seems logical to think the weight will rise 1.02x1.5 = 1.53lbs, but no, it weights 2.7 lbs more. I can understand that could be a little bit more than the average 1.02lbs per inch, but sounds too much difference for me. If we calculate a volume / weight ratio it would be 266L / 29.1 = 9.14 liters per lbs. If we add 14L (the difference between the two models) should add 14/9.14 = 1.53lbs. The same result as in the lbs per inch ratio. But almost doubles the ratio. Sorry my english, I hope is understandable.




Forget about the weight difference calculations. There is something wrong in the catalog. Online catalog states that bullet 12'6''x30'' weights 31.8 lbs (14.42Kg). But I have read a printed catalog and it says it weights 31.8lbs / 13.8Kg which is imposible. I hope the right weight to be 13.8Kg (30.42lbs)



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