Forums > Stand Up Paddle General

Is the race board market dead? what is going on? How did we get here? Can we fix it?

Reply
Created by danyboy 26 days ago, 14 Nov 2019
danyboy
VIC, 3 posts
14 Nov 2019 5:15PM
Thumbs Up

Guys would love to hear from you!!

paul.j
QLD, 2897 posts
14 Nov 2019 4:39PM
Thumbs Up

Not at all, in fact many areas are stronger now than ever before.

Some areas yes are hurting like the unlimited side as this is a small market and the foil has eaten into this a bit but still those crew who understand it still will keep it going.

The flatwater market right now is where most growth is and maybe its in a bit of a transition from the surfing side more over to the paddling side.

Lots of races happening around Australia and where the races are happening the markets are still growing. Board prices we're getting crazy and durability was getting worse which did not help but this side is getting better now.

It might not be going crazy like it was but it is still there just maybe a little more specialized now.

colas
3517 posts
14 Nov 2019 4:18PM
Thumbs Up

From what I can see in France, it seems the race market didn't catch up because it failed to build a large base of young riders. There are very few SUP clubs that have dedicated trainings and boards for schools, with a regular contest schedule. I guess it is because in France, SUP is managed by the surfing federation, which basically doesn't care about flat water activities, but nonetheless engaged in a turf war to prevent the kayak federation to manage the race SUP scene (and get the relevant subsidies).

So there has been no effort to organize SUP as a school activity, with subsides for contests, etc... SUP racing in France is thus limited to adults with enough time and money... not a recipe for growth. OZ may be better in this regard with its long history of competitive water sports in school.

For instance, Gong does not call these boards "race" anymore (no market), they are now labelled "race/cruising/fitness"

Nozza
VIC, 2148 posts
14 Nov 2019 8:38PM
Thumbs Up

Not qualified to comment on this but.....
Compete more.
Get in with the Kayak guys - they do lots of races, inland etc.
Flat water, sprints.....

DAZZAINTHEBAZZA
QLD, 54 posts
15 Nov 2019 9:22AM
Thumbs Up

Yep its pretty much dead these days, Board prices went through the roof, the average punter wasn't going to update their board every year to try and stay competitive at those prices, which ended up killing club and event participation. I think the only side that has stabilized is social & recreational paddling as it doesn't really matter what you ride.

robg1703
NSW, 110 posts
15 Nov 2019 4:51PM
Thumbs Up

The problem is that all the races died off because they were financially unviable

Nozza
VIC, 2148 posts
15 Nov 2019 5:45PM
Thumbs Up

If there is to be a race board market, it needs to be for amateur paddlers entering races for their own enjoyment.
"Financially viable" does not make sense.

15 Nov 2019 6:22PM
Thumbs Up

Look at the Scotts Head paddle games put on by the Newcastle club still going and still good numbers because they concentrated on participating and fun !!!
No who's winning

nosaj27
QLD, 270 posts
15 Nov 2019 6:40PM
Thumbs Up

To turn over $3k-$4k every 12-months on the latest race board is just not viable for most paddlers that aren't sponsored, especially when you off load them 12-months later and lose $1.5k-$2k when you sell it.

Nozza
VIC, 2148 posts
15 Nov 2019 8:06PM
Thumbs Up

So paddle the old board - what does it matter?
"The new 21" wide is just as stable as last years 23" wide" doesn't matter when you couldn't balance on last year's board.
Compete with what you have got and ignore the yearly cycle.
I think I'm getting in to territory I shouldn't and don't really care about.
If you enjoy racing, race.
Challenge yourself on whatever water craft you have.
Upgrade when you can afford it.
I'm out.
No I'm not, I will continue to have an opinion even if no one else does.

Zeusman
NSW, 1273 posts
15 Nov 2019 9:29PM
Thumbs Up

One reason in my opinion is that the boards kept getting narrower each year, which meant bigger guys (like myslelf) who can't ride a 23" or 24"'wide board stopped competing. It became clear that to be competitive, you had to be able to ride narrow boards, which meant you had to be light and small. That and as mentioned by others, it's unrealistic to buy a new $3000-$4000 board every year

robg1703
NSW, 110 posts
16 Nov 2019 1:21PM
Thumbs Up

Hi Nozza,
What i meant by "financially unviable" was the cost to run them...ie: insurance, council, water safety etc...We had plenty of great races open to all levels of paddlers a few years ago...from kids to beginners....they were great social weekends away with good numbers....Also now the brands don't have the money to sponsor them....but now they're all gone...Except for Scotts Head, 12 Towers & the one down the South Coast a few weeks ago...

Nozza
VIC, 2148 posts
16 Nov 2019 3:31PM
Thumbs Up

Hey Rob, sorry, I thought you were talking on a prize money / lack of sponsorship level

JEG
VIC, 1359 posts
18 Nov 2019 8:26AM
Thumbs Up

it's an easy fix if you know-how and we need to ask why did we got to here, hint

Nlakes
QLD, 13 posts
19 Nov 2019 10:00AM
Thumbs Up

Racing is still going strong in QLD . While we are very fortunate to have great weather and locations to paddle , importantly we have 4 very active clubs all headed by passionate and motivated committes who regularly run time trial events and club training for members to improve their skills. There' s been a number of races this year including the Elliott heads flatwater classic , Race the bay and Old woman island on the Sunshine coast , the Coochie classic in Brisbane as well as the famous 12 towers race on the gold coast . All 4 clubs are well supported by local retailers sponsoring events and our local Elite paddlers such as Kelly Margetts , Paul and Angie Jackson, Karla Gilbert , Trevor Tunnington and world no 1 Lincoln Dews are all very active in either competing alongside the locals , running coaching clinics or offering one on one coaching . I think a lot of it comes down to the club level and having those dedicated hardworking committees to keep the wheels turning .

JEG
VIC, 1359 posts
19 Nov 2019 12:13PM
Thumbs Up

perhaps one day foiling and winging will be heading in that direction.
History repeated and it's like groundhog day except he got good at the end after multiple attempt

DAZZAINTHEBAZZA
QLD, 54 posts
19 Nov 2019 11:49AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Nlakes said..
Racing is still going strong in QLD . While we are very fortunate to have great weather and locations to paddle , importantly we have 4 very active clubs all headed by passionate and motivated committes who regularly run time trial events and club training for members to improve their skills. There' s been a number of races this year including the Elliott heads flatwater classic , Race the bay and Old woman island on the Sunshine coast , the Coochie classic in Brisbane as well as the famous 12 towers race on the gold coast . All 4 clubs are well supported by local retailers sponsoring events and our local Elite paddlers such as Kelly Margetts , Paul and Angie Jackson, Karla Gilbert , Trevor Tunnington and world no 1 Lincoln Dews are all very active in either competing alongside the locals , running coaching clinics or offering one on one coaching . I think a lot of it comes down to the club level and having those dedicated hardworking committees to keep the wheels turning .





You obviously weren't racing in 2013 to 2017 if you think its still going strong QLD has been hit the hardest imo. Sunny Coast club is a
skeleton of its former days unfortunately.



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Stand Up Paddle General


"Is the race board market dead? what is going on? How did we get here? Can we fix it?" started by danyboy