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Created by RPG 4 months ago, 8 Sep 2017
RPG
32 posts
8 Sep 2017 5:55AM
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Is throwing your paddle at someone during a competition acceptable behaviour?

normster
81 posts
8 Sep 2017 6:31AM
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no, probably not - however a good opportunity to trade up if its a good paddle.

if its a cheapie maybe return it in two pieces - oops it snapped

JEG
VIC, 655 posts
8 Sep 2017 8:32AM
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it depends but I would say no

micksmith
VIC, 1125 posts
8 Sep 2017 9:51AM
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At them NO, to them maybe

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2082 posts
8 Sep 2017 9:51AM
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I'm not aware of any rules of SUP competition that prohibit it. But I expect that in sophisticated disciplines like SUP Jousting (and maybe Polo) it wouldn't be considered de rigueur.

micksmith
VIC, 1125 posts
8 Sep 2017 11:11AM
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HumanCartoon said..
I'm not aware of any rules of SUP competition that prohibit it. But I expect that in sophisticated disciplines like SUP Jousting (and maybe Polo) it wouldn't be considered de rigueur.


Not yet anyway

Bowerboy
NSW, 64 posts
8 Sep 2017 11:15AM
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I think if the paddle belonged to the competitor and you were assisting by returning the paddle by throwing it to the person then I believe that may be considered good sportsmanship.

rockmagnet
QLD, 911 posts
8 Sep 2017 5:19PM
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It might be a bit off if you had sharpened the blunt end and impaled the ex fellow competitor allowing you to win the comp. It could be frowned upon by the judges unless they agreed that he was a total dick and deserved it.

SunovaBouy
131 posts
8 Sep 2017 7:23PM
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BBQ'd SUPper you mean

Maybe you are thinking a Tag Team, like the 4x400mtrs...?

Betty
23 posts
9 Sep 2017 6:15AM
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Perfectly okay, I encourage it and think it's just splendid behaviour

RPG
32 posts
11 Sep 2017 6:13AM
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Lets say a prone free surfer drifts into the contest zone accidentally and gets in the way. The competitor reacts by throwing his paddle at them. Is this acceptable behaviour?

DavidJohn
VIC, 15816 posts
11 Sep 2017 8:26AM
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RPG said..
Lets say a prone free surfer drifts into the contest zone accidentally and gets in the way. The competitor reacts by throwing his paddle at them. Is this acceptable behaviour?



IMO.. No..

A paddle is to light.. and not pointy enough.. (just kidding)..

E T
QLD, 2213 posts
11 Sep 2017 8:43AM
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I would suggest that "paddle throwing" was a way for this person to outlet their aggression. A lot of "competitors" are naturally aggressive. They display a "I have to win" attitude which translates into aggression at times. You see it all the time in highly competitive people. Some can control it, others can't. Particularly if they feel slighted or put off when they are doing their best.

I guess it would be better if he didn't throw the paddle, but maybe it could be compared to the footballer who recently kicked a guy that had gone down. I believe he was banned for twenty years. Should the "paddle thrower" be banned from competing for a period?

Some say aggression is part of winning, you need it to perform at your best. i9 am not sure about it. I personally have given up all form of competition as I have got older as I am tired of the aggression that people show. I don't need that nonsense around me.

Yes, I know that there is Humour in this thread, I also appreciate humour being their. However, in my opinion, surfing and Supping are activities that can well do without aggression, it has no place.

A good way to get rid of aggression is to tire yourself out with a long paddle or a surf session. If your are still feeling aggressive get out of the water and go home. Aggression is not necessary in the water.

Yes, I am finished now.

Have a nice day, it is magnificent again in Noosa today.

ET.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 1399 posts
11 Sep 2017 2:57PM
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RPG said..
Lets say a prone free surfer drifts into the contest zone accidentally and gets in the way. The competitor reacts by throwing his paddle at them. Is this acceptable behaviour?


If you don't have a chainsaw or tomahawk with you, what else are you supposed to throw?

pumpjockey02
147 posts
11 Sep 2017 4:02PM
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Re my old post on "Laird is the king post". Competition surfers are an annoying, rabid, OCD, addictive personality, selfish lot in general who can never get their fill. (This is an exaggeration not all are like this BL you were always a kind giving wave god).
Cant decide between Tom Carroll and Kelly Slater who was the worst and most rabbid of wave (SNAKES) takers. You really need to be like this to be successful good surfers like RASTA and Ozzie Wright couldnt compete on the WCT because they were just too nice. My advice download a big picture of Tom Carroll riding his SUP or/and Kelly Slater for the other side of the paddle and laminate them and contact them onto each side of your blade. When you spot a surfer paddling over to you, point at the picture, laugh out loud and then throw the paddle straight at their NOGGIN, If its carbon its not going to hurt much anyway.

Oh just a side note. I must state in Kelly defence one late wednesday arvo in the early 90's kelly did come down and share Little Avalon with me and three mates and was the most humble nice gentleman you would ever meet. It was smallish and working perfect, offshore and he just sat off our group chatted and shared a few sets with us.

surfershaneA
776 posts
11 Sep 2017 7:24PM
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E T said..
I would suggest that "paddle throwing" was a way for this person to outlet their aggression. A lot of "competitors" are naturally aggressive. They display a "I have to win" attitude which translates into aggression at times. You see it all the time in highly competitive people. Some can control it, others can't. Particularly if they feel slighted or put off when they are doing their best.

I guess it would be better if he didn't throw the paddle, but maybe it could be compared to the footballer who recently kicked a guy that had gone down. I believe he was banned for twenty years. Should the "paddle thrower" be banned from competing for a period?

Some say aggression is part of winning, you need it to perform at your best. i9 am not sure about it. I personally have given up all form of competition as I have got older as I am tired of the aggression that people show. I don't need that nonsense around me.

Yes, I know that there is Humour in this thread, I also appreciate humour being their. However, in my opinion, surfing and Supping are activities that can well do without aggression, it has no place.

A good way to get rid of aggression is to tire yourself out with a long paddle or a surf session. If your are still feeling aggressive get out of the water and go home. Aggression is not necessary in the water.

Yes, I am finished now.

Have a nice day, it is magnificent again in Noosa today.

ET.





Ha ha. Must have been a good thing then that the comp-centric El Preidente of a Sydney SUP Surfing club banned me???

I have no future in the sport. How cool is that? Pure unadulterated evil!!!!

Going back to my home on the sea. Need to sharpen my paddle and plan more despicable acts of piracy!!!!!

surfershaneA
776 posts
11 Sep 2017 7:34PM
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Oh, and in Smelly Skater's defence, I had a great conversation with him about bass fishing. This was before he started winning world titles.

Guess he has since gone to the evil side? Myself, I would still rather be up a river in a Canadian canoe throwing lures around. Infinitely more relaxing than dealing with competition adulterated attitude!

micksmith
VIC, 1125 posts
12 Sep 2017 6:33AM
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surfershaneA said..

E T said..
I would suggest that "paddle throwing" was a way for this person to outlet their aggression. A lot of "competitors" are naturally aggressive. They display a "I have to win" attitude which translates into aggression at times. You see it all the time in highly competitive people. Some can control it, others can't. Particularly if they feel slighted or put off when they are doing their best.

I guess it would be better if he didn't throw the paddle, but maybe it could be compared to the footballer who recently kicked a guy that had gone down. I believe he was banned for twenty years. Should the "paddle thrower" be banned from competing for a period?

Some say aggression is part of winning, you need it to perform at your best. i9 am not sure about it. I personally have given up all form of competition as I have got older as I am tired of the aggression that people show. I don't need that nonsense around me.

Yes, I know that there is Humour in this thread, I also appreciate humour being their. However, in my opinion, surfing and Supping are activities that can well do without aggression, it has no place.

A good way to get rid of aggression is to tire yourself out with a long paddle or a surf session. If your are still feeling aggressive get out of the water and go home. Aggression is not necessary in the water.

Yes, I am finished now.

Have a nice day, it is magnificent again in Noosa today.

ET.








I have no future in the sport. How cool is that? Pure unadulterated evil!!!!



No future in the sport? or just in competition

Suporator
NSW, 38 posts
14 Sep 2017 2:24PM
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I threw my paddle at a drone once. It wasn't a competition. Is that ok?!

E T
QLD, 2213 posts
14 Sep 2017 2:37PM
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Yep Suporator that is OK, as long as there was no-one else throwing a paddle it isn't classed as a contest.

ET.

Seajuice
NSW, 138 posts
14 Sep 2017 7:15PM
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Yeah! Perfectly OK if I'm competing against you cause you'll get disqualified! Haaaaaaa!

RPG
32 posts
16 Sep 2017 6:01AM
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surfershaneA said..
Oh, and in Smelly Skater's defence, I had a great conversation with him about bass fishing. This was before he started winning world titles.

Guess he has since gone to the evil side? Myself, I would still rather be up a river in a Canadian canoe throwing lures around. Infinitely more relaxing than dealing with competition adulterated attitude!


Were you banned for throwing a paddle surfershaneA ?

Slab
813 posts
17 Sep 2017 5:33AM
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You have to be a right fanny to chuck your paddle at someone....

Souwester
WA, 823 posts
17 Sep 2017 9:53AM
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How would you then paddle for anymore waves if you throw your paddle? Did he have a few spare floating around?

pmorgan1974
NSW, 1079 posts
25 Sep 2017 10:15AM
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RPG said..

surfershaneA said..
Oh, and in Smelly Skater's defence, I had a great conversation with him about bass fishing. This was before he started winning world titles.

Guess he has since gone to the evil side? Myself, I would still rather be up a river in a Canadian canoe throwing lures around. Infinitely more relaxing than dealing with competition adulterated attitude!



Were you banned for throwing a paddle surfershaneA ?


Hi RPG, In the club and committee's defence.

SurferShane was a guest competitor at 2 of our comps. In the 2nd contest he took exception to not getting though a heat. Anyone who's surfed in any form of competition would have maybe felt once or twice their waves should have scored higher.. It is what it is, everyone volunteers to judge in each event. The head judge keeps an eye on things, but they are all not professional judges.

Although post this event he decided to go to various social platforms and bag out the club and it's members. Something about favouritism. Complete BS.
The committee let him know that it was not appreciated as were not surfing for the yellow jersey, we are volunteering our time to put these comps on and if he wasn't happy about his result then he should have brought it up directly with the team. It was not taken very well by him, and he continued to post junk about the club and its committee members. The team decided to suggest that our club wasn't the best fit for him.

At the end of the day, If i turned up to local board riders club day as a guest not a member, didn't get the result i wanted and them flame them on facebook/seabreeze. I would not expect to be welcomed back.

The club is a fantastic crew of all ages and abilities and we are always welcoming of anyone to participate in our events. The issue here was just a very public attack on the club and some specific committee members, and we won't accept that.

This was very long time ago, and I am surprised it is being thrown back onto this forum. I hesitated responding as i did not want to give it oxygen, but I am passionate about our club and felt it appropriate to defend it.

Mahalo

bearbusa
QLD, 265 posts
25 Sep 2017 1:47PM
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Threw my paddle at my wife a few years ago just before a comp (even though it was by accident ) not a good move , long way home carrying a Sup under your arm to tired to compete the next day

purplebeanie
SA, 129 posts
24 Oct 2017 8:48AM
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Paddle throwing is Not good behavior and should NOT have been tolerated in a comp final.
he should have been...
1. disqualified.
2. Banned from competing for 2 years.
3. made to hand back any awards he received.

ellemenophee
SA, 66 posts
24 Oct 2017 5:47PM
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