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Pre-session warmup

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Created by colas Wednesday, 13 Oct 2021
colas
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Wednesday , 13 Oct 2021 9:48PM
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Here is my 10 minutes warmup routine before my morning SUP session.
Follow-along, 10 minutes exactly, no intro/outro.
No commentary nor music track as I do not want to wake up the house :-)

I found out that I was getting more and more small injuries, especially after 50 years old (now 61), so I decided to properly warm up before sessions. I now perform a full 10 minutes warmup at home just before getting to the beach, as I found out I could not discipline myself to do it on the beach. 10 minutes is awfully long on the beach while looking at waves :-)

So I warm up in front of the video on the TV at home, then slip into my wetsuit and drive to the spot to keep warm in the meantime.

The video tries to warm all the body, but insists on the calves and shoulders that I think are the most subjected to abuse in surf SUPing. It starts slow, just putting your joints through all the range of motion, and raise cardio at the end.

If you are younger, or before an afternoon session, I guess you can just play the video at 2x speed (or more?) for a 5mn quicker warmup :-)

It is a compilation of extracts from the Youtube warmup videos that I list on the video description. Refer to them for details and explanations.



What's your routine?

PS: I also now do 30 to 45 minutes of stretching every evening (I should have started younger, I am in damage control mode now), listening to podcasts/audiobooks, with various static stretches held for 1mn each, the aim is to have each muscle group stretched 10 cumulated minutes per week, following the result from scientific studies summarized in this video:

Mark _australia
WA, 20655 posts
Wednesday , 13 Oct 2021 10:10PM
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Getting the board off the racks is it for me.

slsurf
75 posts
Thursday , 14 Oct 2021 12:28AM
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Thanks for making that. Does a lion warm up before killing a gazelle? Usually I just do a little knee bend jumping, air paddling, circle my arms before paddling out. My paddle out usually takes quite a few minutes so I call that a warm up. In theory its a great idea to completely warm up, especially on a cold morning. I'm barely functioning for the dawn patrol. If the waves are pumping adrenaline is the best warm up of all. I do stretch/exercise my back at home since thats a weak link for me and it seems to help. I read that recent research indicated stretching before exercising decreased performance but not sure how definitive the studies were.

Kisutch
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Thursday , 14 Oct 2021 3:56AM
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I gotta try this vid, thanks.

I used to run 1/4 mile to beach first for surf check, but now I never check, I liked that warmup though . I do a not-long-enough warmup of yoga stretches from the yoga app we have, like standing side stretch, forward bend, then stretch quad, groin like we did in soccer practice in highschool back in the day, then it's on. I usually get there at first light, which I find a little intimidating, so don't mind waiting a sec to get in.
im having issue with neck that I haven't found a good stretch for.

colas
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Thursday , 14 Oct 2021 12:53PM
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Kisutch said..
I used to run 1/4 mile to beach first for surf check,


Me too (I ran 1km to the secluded spot I use in summer to beat the crowds), but I started getting injuries from the running itself (hurt calf => 2 weeks out of the water). So I started warming up for the warmup run... So I just instead "invested" in a proper general warmup.

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slsurf said..Does a lion warm up before killing a gazelle?


A lion life expectancy is 15 years. At 15 years I didn't have to warmup either :-)

also "I read that recent research indicated stretching before exercising decreased performance"
Yes, static stretching before exercising is counter-productive and can even be dangerous. You want to warmup before by dynamic stretching.
The four types of stretching are Dynamic, Ballistic, Static and PNF (assisted static), There are plenty of comparative info on the web, e.g:

Basically:
- warmup (dynamic stretching, cardio) before the session. Actually more moving your joints through their range of motion than actual stretching.
- static stretches after the session



PS: My recommendation is to ignore all the "yoga" themed videos, they are often just full of unproven pseudo-science mystic cult-like bovine crap. Try to follow advice of actual doctors, based on serious studies. For instance on stretching, the ones made on dancers, where measurable inches gained in flexibility are vital for their work.

LpMaui
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Thursday , 14 Oct 2021 1:02PM
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Silly me 72yo still prone, wind n Kite surf and never had a warm up prior. Maybe because of the warmer climate but can still pop up on a short board yet can't touch my toes

colas
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Thursday , 14 Oct 2021 1:09PM
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LpMaui said..
Silly me 72yo still prone, wind n Kite surf and never had a warm up prior. Maybe because of the warmer climate but can still pop up on a short board yet can't touch my toes


We are definitively all different genetically...
And in my case, being overweight and working sitting in front of a computer have worsened things.

But if you start getting injured (even just mildly), please warm up!
... and even if not, just give it a try. It has definitely helped my surfing, adding flow.

stamp
QLD, 2710 posts
Friday , 15 Oct 2021 7:57PM
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Just going to drop this in here:

www.painscience.com/articles/stretching.php

Kisutch
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Friday , 15 Oct 2021 7:55PM
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slsurf said..
Thanks for making that. Does a lion warm up before killing a gazelle? Usually I just do a little knee bend jumping, air paddling, circle my arms before paddling out. My paddle out usually takes quite a few minutes so I call that a warm up. In theory its a great idea to completely warm up, especially on a cold morning. I'm barely functioning for the dawn patrol. If the waves are pumping adrenaline is the best warm up of all. I do stretch/exercise my back at home since thats a weak link for me and it seems to help. I read that recent research indicated stretching before exercising decreased performance but not sure how definitive the studies were.


Dogs and cats (descendants of amazing predators) stretch a lot don't they? Like arching back when they get up from lying around. Wonder if chimps stretch.

Even if stretching doesn't empirically prevent injury, maybe flexibility helpful for surfing maneuvers?

colas
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Saturday , 16 Oct 2021 1:25PM
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Kisutch said..
Dogs and cats (descendants of amazing predators) stretch a lot don't they? Like arching back when they get up from lying around. Wonder if chimps stretch.


Actually cats do not "stretch" in the meaning used by me in this topic (passive stretches), as they have their muscles in full active tension when they "stretch". These are "active stretches" which are actually warmups.

www.americansportandfitness.com/blogs/fitness-blog/active-vs-passive-stretching-know-the-difference

So yes, Felines warm up a lot!

PS: we are very different from apes muscle-wise. Both because we have finer control at the expense of greatly reduced strength (that's why a chimp is incredibly stronger - and more dangerous - than a man), and adapted to hunt by walking very long distances efficiently, which requires stiffness in our legs so that our muscles can "rest" during the walk.

backbeach
NSW, 61 posts
Monday , 18 Oct 2021 2:58PM
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hope this link works. Cris Mills has got heaps of specific surf related stretch and exercise on his youtube channel. Well worth a look.
Dammit I've been passive stretching before a surf for years .
Don't reckon my fankles (i.e. fkd ankles) could hold up to your routine Colas

colas
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Monday , 18 Oct 2021 12:57PM
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Don't reckon my fankles (i.e. fkd ankles) could hold up to your routine Colas


If you have injuries, you must go very slow on them. For instance I have a bad left shoulder and a bad right knee, and I start the shoulder rotations very slowly, much slower than the video, and for the lateral fences, I support myself by leaning on a chair with the arm to avoid putting all my weight on my knee.

Gently go through all the range of motions of your bad joints.


On your video, yes, I actually registered to this guy courses (free registration - but have not yet tried one of the paying courses) some time ago. He seems competent, from what I can see.

colas
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3 hours ago , 19 Oct 2021 11:50PM
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A benefit of my stretching routine I discovered this morning is improved balance. More range of motion means that I can still have fine muscle control even when flexed, notably crouching, and it helps immensely to get up on a tiny board without the dreaded fall-when-attempting-to-stand-up.



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