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Created by Souwester 9 months ago, 26 Dec 2016
Souwester
WA, 802 posts
26 Dec 2016 1:34PM
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Wondering what everyone uses to get protection from the sun when SUPing in Summer?

I am a big fan of covering up as much as I can if surfing or fishing.

I was looking at the 1.5mm wetties from Adrenalin, they seem like good value:

adrenalinwetsuits.com/Steamers/Super-Flex-1.5mm-Steamer/flypage_images.tpl.html?keyword=1.5mm


colas
2178 posts
26 Dec 2016 3:08PM
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Aren't you going to overheat? a neoprene black full suit under the summer sun.... unless your water stays quite cold.

I discovered this last summer (6 months ago for us) the "UV Tees", for instance: www.ripcurl.com/us/shop/wetsuits/men/rashguards/aggrolite-ls-surf-uv-tee/#Blue
They are incredibly pleasant to wear: loose fit so your skin breathes like in a dry cotton T-shirt, not a lycra, dries instantly after a fall, and very smooth to the touch, no synthetic garment feeling.
Dunno if you can find pants in this material, too.

Souwester
WA, 802 posts
26 Dec 2016 3:34PM
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Yeah you have a point there Colas, those shirts look pretty good.

I have an Excel rashie with built in hood that covers the neck and most of head, might use that with boardies and just cover the legs in cream.


colas
2178 posts
26 Dec 2016 4:39PM
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You should definitely try the Rip Curl one, they are much more pleasant to wear than a Lycra.
I bought also a Quicksilver one, but it is less pleasant, feels more like a Lycra.
(I bought it because Rip Curl didn't made bright red/orange ones, and I needed something to SUP an offshore sandbank often in fog where fishing boats go through to fish with trailing lines... so you often see a boat coming at you out of the fog 100m away instead of a set :-) )

It seems you can also get anti-UV legs elsewhere, e.g: www.sunprecautions.com/shop/unisex_mens/tops/swim

Stev0
340 posts
26 Dec 2016 5:55PM
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I am getting paranoid about skin cancer these days and very conscious about covering up. I use the following:
O'Neill 50+ UV long sleeve:?au.oneill.com/shop/wetsuits/men/rashvests/basic-skins-ls-rash-tee-009-graphite.html
This is great as it is light and loose fitting and 50+ UV protection.
Shelta Hats:?www.sheltahats.com
These hats are ideal for SUP as they have a narrow brim models so your paddle stoke doesn't collect the brim on the way through. They are very breathable so don't get your head cooking when paddling hard for long distances.

Souwester
WA, 802 posts
26 Dec 2016 11:07PM
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Im the same Stev0, I know too many people who are always going under the knife and it freaks me out, covering up is the easiest way to reduce risk, I don't trust suncream AT ALL!

I won't win any fashion contests with my outfits and bits and pieces but if I can enjoy more days on the water as a result then I am winning really

To be honest this rashie from excel that I use does not get too hot on the head even when SUPing, a quick jump into the drink cools me off in any case!

Here it is here:

www.surfstitch.com/product/xcel-drylock-ls-hoodie-rash-vest-light-grey

Souwester
WA, 802 posts
26 Dec 2016 11:30PM
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colas said..
You should definitely try the Rip Curl one, they are much more pleasant to wear than a Lycra.
I bought also a Quicksilver one, but it is less pleasant, feels more like a Lycra.
(I bought it because Rip Curl didn't made bright red/orange ones, and I needed something to SUP an offshore sandbank often in fog where fishing boats go through to fish with trailing lines... so you often see a boat coming at you out of the fog 100m away instead of a set :-) )

It seems you can also get anti-UV legs elsewhere, e.g: www.sunprecautions.com/shop/unisex_mens/tops/swim


That sounds insane mate, SUPing in the fog on an offshore bank where boats are fishing - the wave must be really good yeah?

Markus56
NSW, 10 posts
27 Dec 2016 5:44AM
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Thanks for all those suggestions. Those rip curl shirts and Shelta hats look good. I have also been advised by my Doctor that the skin on the back of my hands will be paper thin in ten years time. To try to slow this down I wear an old pair of sailing gloves when I remember . After a dip in the ocean they can be a bit heavy - loose though. But I also am not a fan of sunscreen sprays or cream.

pumpjockey02
123 posts
27 Dec 2016 6:31AM
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Yep, i cover up well, I use on every sup longer than 30 minutes between 9am -6pm in summer. Non surf sessions.

Rip curl booties or just some neoprene socks. I find the 2mm raise the comfort of my feet on the sup too.
gym leggings, board shorts over the top.
Long sleeve rash vest any brand must be 50+ rating.
Gloves I wear either OR research full finger inners or kayaking open finger gloves from Anaconda.
Sunglasses, Dragon the jam polarised (they float).
Hat, legionares hat with draw string from BCF for fishing. Bit anti social.

I find the ears also need suncream under the hat and the nose.
Always cover my hands.
Its the glare back up from the water and the sides of my noggin that are the worst.

micksmith
VIC, 1115 posts
27 Dec 2016 1:10PM
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I certainly understand the concern about skin cancer, my neighbour died as a result of it, he looked pretty bad in his last days. I'm over fifty and this last year I've been a bit concerned about dry spots and a particular mole, went to the doctor for a yearly service and got the all clear. It's definitely worth doing for peace of mind and also cover up on the more exposed areas. I'm probably not that good at it buT have been wearing the cap and a shirt more regularly.

Souwester
WA, 802 posts
27 Dec 2016 1:58PM
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This thread has been very helpful guys, nice to hear there are a few people out there who cover up and its good to hear what works for everyone.

The eyes are one that I think I will need to suss out as well, something I had not thought of before this thread, thanks for that pumpjockey02!

Warnsey
NSW, 50 posts
27 Dec 2016 5:25PM
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I wear a FCS bucket hat. Serves two purposes, keeps the sun off and the water out of my ears. Couldn't care less how I look in the water. Rather look like a kook in the water (to match my ability) than have a face covered in scars from sun spots cut out...


Stev0
340 posts
28 Dec 2016 3:41AM
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CoffsSUPer said..
Couldn't care less how I look in the water. Rather look like a kook in the water (to match my ability) than have a face covered in scars from sun spots cut out...




Exactly. I always wear a Kook Hat as insurance from getting melanomas cut out of my head. The problem is that most of your sun damage happened when you were younger and now it is a case of ensuring it doesn't development into something more sinister! The sun in NZ is fierce and wrecks havoc on your skin if you are not careful. I plan to SUP for many years and at the stage now I need to be very careful as I have been in the water a lot since I was a kid back in the day when we stay out too long in the sun and got burnt and mum would put on Qtol to sooth red skin.

worrier
WA, 712 posts
28 Dec 2016 4:49AM
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The Shelta hats are great for flat water paddling and have the best sun protection. Not much good in the surf though. They are real rigid where the brim joins the hat itself which is why they don't flop I guess. Dive under a wave though and this ridge drops down on the bridge if your nose and will draw blood. All good while you are close to the beach but for outer reefs I would not recommend.
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808-Obsession
QLD, 254 posts
28 Dec 2016 7:22AM
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I've got this one from O'Neill




shop.prokayaks.com.au/products/oneill-eclipse-bucket-surf-hat

Works great - semi-rigid at the front so doesn't fall down into your face when wet, and never had any issues with cuts to the nose from the brim

pumpjockey02
123 posts
28 Dec 2016 12:22PM
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i was very fortunate that in my youth I developed a little bump in my nose, as I would apply my cream and zinc and then put on my rashie and this would take off a little of the zinc in the same position and formed a little nick out of my nose. This made me very sun safe at an early age.

Souwester been really happy with the dragon the jam sunnies my second pair, always buy the previous years model at about $100 off at the airport of all places, adelaide domestic terminal.
Fuze lenses US also offer a range of replacement lenses for them.

With sunnies you need to buy lenses that penetrate the water and not deflect off the water. i always go for polarised.

With the dragon sunnies you can also head down to Cottesloe and wear them in the water to show up the hipsters too.

DaveSandan
VIC, 454 posts
28 Dec 2016 6:12PM
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I use the straw hats made by Billabong or Rip Curl with a wide brim so my ears don't get burnt, also a rashie short and long sleeved depending on my needs and always 50+ sunscreen on my legs arms and face for reflective glare. On windy days I wear a baseball style cap used by rowers and it breaths well but stops UV and still add heaps water resistant sunscreen. Dont get burnt an more these days but did so many times when I was younger and surfing all the time, hopefully I am lucky and don't have the gene that mutates??

maddy123
1 posts
13 Oct 2017 4:55PM
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Hello Travellers ,I love travelling to beaches. Recently I was on a vacation to Goa with my friends. It was amazing but the temperature in afternoon was high. Whenever I went for sight-seeing, I used sunscreen and sunglasses to stay protected . Also I carrried a hat, which I choosed from here: itday.com/camping/comprehensive-guide-choose-sun-hat/It was a mind-blowing experience, If you have some more suggestions regarding protection from UV rays, please let me know.Thanks

slipperyduck
WA, 18 posts
13 Oct 2017 5:21PM
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The summer sun in Perth will kill an indestructible ten year old macca's chip found under your car seat in a a matter of seconds.
I grabbed a pair of cheap polarised under $50 and one of the floating sunny savers for if you ( when you) go in. Sun cream is ok but zinc is the go, coating the nose is a must.
You can cut skin cancer out of most places, but from the nose is tricky business. You end up looking like a bashed crab . There's just no skin to work with.

Seajuice
NSW, 131 posts
13 Oct 2017 10:29PM
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Good on you guys for discussing sun protection in a factual mature way. After all it is our future life & lifestyle that the sun will affect. Better to be outdoors doing the things we love than spending time in hospital or doctors surgery.
Whatever you do for sun protection is better than no protection at all.
As a keen mad fisherman, spearfishing & surfer in my younger days before sun protection was even mentioned. I had my fair share of sunburn & blisters & also snow blindness from paddling around on a bright white polystyrene board all day at the age of 10 on. Lol! Burning the crap outa my eyes wasn't fun. Was like a welding flash after getting home outa the sun after about 6 hours. Just imagine having sand poured in your eyes before going to bed. I couldn't sleep for at least 2 nights in pain.
So that's why I wear sunglasses when I surf.
First started wearing Oakley surf glasses until they wore out. But now wear SeaSpecs as they are so cheap & UV protection.
But you can lose them in pumping surf. So I tie a loop of cord around the strap that fits snug over my head to my neck. Then you put the glasses on as normal. A cord like one out of a pair of speedos is great. Works perfect for me.
Another tip is to clean your lenses with lense cleaner before you go out for a surf to reduce the smudges & fogging.
What I do religiously is after cleaning with lense cleaner I then wipe over the lenses with an anti fog solution which is Zoggs Fogbuster Anti Fog & Lens Cleaner that I got from AMart. Just a small drop & wipe over & you are good to go.
It's not 100% clear vision on some days. Just avoid touching the lense. Dunk your face in the water to clear any fog & water droplets.
I have been wearing surf glasses for over 15 years & am used to it. Feel bare without them lol.

Brenno
QLD, 501 posts
13 Oct 2017 9:51PM
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There is nothing better than a rainy morning when you can just go nude. My generation was encouraged to get cooked to look healthy. Apparently not good for your longevity.
On a sunny Oz day starting from the top...
Kook bucket hat with stiff brim (think it's rip curl, can't read it anymore).
Surf mud zinc cream - gold, doesn't come off until you want it to, dolphin friendly.
Beard of varying lengths (if your dad doesn't have a beard you've got 2 mums!)
Long sleeve rashy, black for winter, white for summer - O'neill has been the hardest wearing I've owned.
Everything from the waste down is protected by the shade from my beer gut!
SUP sun safe!

pumpjockey02
123 posts
14 Oct 2017 2:26AM
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Argh brenno you are right on, I have also long hair and a beard. This helps to keep the sun off my ears and my neck. Works a treat.

Sea Juice I could it actually have the opposite affect on your eyes. Just a quick (personal) question when did you need glasses. Im starting to think that the light is actually good for your eyes and stops degeneration.

Fitzsup
NSW, 25 posts
14 Oct 2017 8:06AM
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I went to a supposed skin specialist in a hipster town and he found nothing dangerous,I was waiting for my wife to get checked at our local guy.She finished, the dr said I've got time do you want a check,it's free, he found a pin head size melanoma.Surgery and a 12"x3" scar.As said the damage occurred when we were young,it was cool and healthy to be brown.If your over 50 get a skin check every 6 months usually covered by Medicare,my skin guy reckon most surfers get burnt on the top of the ears.So keep your Grand kids covered and yourselves and it's good to see this topic being treated seriously.I have been told that the chance of a reoccurrence is about 6%

Seajuice
NSW, 131 posts
14 Oct 2017 11:09AM
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Pumpjockey02. I decided to wear sunglasses when surfing again after about 15years layoff when I decided I missed it when sitting on the beach with family watching the surfers. Lol.
But the first hot sunny day I again got the snow blindness as I would surf for about 3 hours & this is the overtime when I would get wary if I would get painful scratchy eyes when going to bed. Its just like sunburn. Doesnt appear until about 4 to 6 hours later.
I have got pterygiums on my eyes that were discovered in my twenties. 57 years old now & they don't bother me yet to do something about them. Still no cataracts. So something is working so far.
So when surf glasses came on the market, I got a pair & been wearing them ever since. I like them on those offshore wind days when you get sprayed in the face when wanting to drop down the wave face.
The biggest disadvantage is fogging & water droplets that can obscure vision. And this is probably why I see nobody wearing them. Other than losing them also.
The cost of the Oakley glasses were about $200 to $300 when they first came out. But I got them through health insurance then.
But now there are other brands like sea specs much cheaper & good quality. Just make sure they are UV protected.
I have just recently heard that you can get cancers of the eyes & eye lids the same as skin cancers. So I will continue wearing them.
And yes, at an older age skin cancers do keep popping up just like a mushroom farm unfortunately.
Yes get checked every 6 months & if you discover any new marks on the skin that have appeared for no reason.
I am a slacko & dont get checked every 6 months but I have discovered marks that have been cancerous & have had them burnt out & cut out too. The last was just inside the top of my earlobe that required day surgery in hospital.

billekrub
38 posts
14 Oct 2017 10:05AM
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Souwester said..
Yeah you have a point there Colas, those shirts look pretty good.

I have an Excel rashie with built in hood that covers the neck and most of head, might use that with boardies and just cover the legs in cream.




You can wear lightweight, synthetic running pants, from Nike, e.g., with tapered lower leg and not very absorbent. I have even worn them over a shorty.

NTAA
NSW, 29 posts
14 Oct 2017 3:25PM
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Sun screen on your legs will usually transfer to your deck grip making it very slippery.

I love these Zhik Myunos - UV50+, comfortable and durable. If modesty is a problem, just wear your boardies over them ..........

www.zhik.com/myuno-pant.html?___store=au_sail&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwbG74aDv1gIVnQQqCh26ogrOEAQYAiABEgL7gPD_BwE

Chris_M
1502 posts
14 Oct 2017 2:45PM
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That invisible zinc brand zinc is good too.

As all of you will have discovered, any sunblock that claims it protects you in the water for 3 hours is bullshyte, you gotta have the zinc or you are gonna get roasted

Souwester
WA, 802 posts
14 Oct 2017 3:06PM
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NTAA said..
Sun screen on your legs will usually transfer to your deck grip making it very slippery.

I love these Zhik Myunos - UV50+, comfortable and durable. If modesty is a problem, just wear your boardies over them ..........

www.zhik.com/myuno-pant.html?___store=au_sail&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwbG74aDv1gIVnQQqCh26ogrOEAQYAiABEgL7gPD_BwE



Good point NTAA, I will be investing in some Sea Spec sunnies for the eyes and some sort of long legged sun safe protection like the ones in your link this summer.

Have not had the SUP out in a while, been having too much fun on the Longboard but def. keen to get the Vex out there for some dawn sessions before work very soon.

Souwester
WA, 802 posts
14 Oct 2017 3:07PM
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NTAA said..
Sun screen on your legs will usually transfer to your deck grip making it very slippery.

I love these Zhik Myunos - UV50+, comfortable and durable. If modesty is a problem, just wear your boardies over them ..........

www.zhik.com/myuno-pant.html?___store=au_sail&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwbG74aDv1gIVnQQqCh26ogrOEAQYAiABEgL7gPD_BwE



Good point NTAA, I will be investing in some Sea Spec sunnies for the eyes and some sort of long legged sun safe protection like the ones in your link this summer.

Have not had the SUP out in a while, been having too much fun on the Longboard but def. keen to get the Vex out there for some dawn sessions before work very soon.

pumpjockey02
123 posts
15 Oct 2017 3:39AM
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Thanks for the info Seajuice I remember those oakleys and the function might not have been up to scratch but Damm they looked cool. Water jackets.
i also think they moved the industry towards the technology that we have today. Love my Dragon model.
I should have stated that I meant reading glasses not sunglasses, I too am aware of the eye cancers. I am beginning to suspect that the UV light that you get exposed to is much better for your eyes than being indoors on an electrical device. Even through the sunnies. Im in the early childhood sphere and I think we might be doing too much to the next generation with all this anxiety.
Billie Im a tight man, you can get them for 20 bucks at Aldi and also look out for sales around now at the local DFO, Puma, NB and reebok are all excellent.
Chris that clear Zinc is the bomb for daily use in Summer.



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