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Why the aggro?

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Created by Bluehawk 1 month ago, 22 Aug 2021
Bluehawk
NSW, 37 posts
22 Aug 2021 9:55AM
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Hmmm - crowded line up with small waves. One other SUP rider who unfortunately is catching everything. I admit I got frustrated and went for a wave he was also paddling for. I thought he will drop out but no. So I stomp on the tail pad and drop off the back of the wave. Then a proner went off. He was apparently paddling out. If I had caught the wave I guess he was in my line but I was looking at the other SUP rider and the wave. I did have a quick look when I started paddling but didn't see anyone but as I say it was crowded. Anyway he angrily proclaims "mate you nearly killed me" I was a bit taken aback not really registering what his point was. He then went on with the usual SUP abuse. I said that I was going for a wave and he was paddling out in the catch zone (not wide). He was also catching everything. He said the board was a foot from him! Then he yelled to his mate for everyone to hear "yeh that guy dropped in and then nearly killed me". I wish I had said he should have a go at the two surfers who had crashed into each other about 10 minutes earlier. I felt like I may have not been as observant as to what was in front of me as I usually am but I certainly didn't nearly kill him and I wasn't within one foot of him! Ruined a nice day.....

stehar
NSW, 430 posts
22 Aug 2021 12:51PM
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Fortunately the loudest rudest ones are the ones who are poor surfers and do not get many waves - leads to frustration and need to burn off the anger - Sup, bodyboarders maybe mal riders all may cop a serve - demonstrated ability level by paddling out thru break - continue to share waves with everybody else, but keep an eye on him and snake all his waves, crowd him, bugger his day up! This may not work if he is 2 metres tall and 120 kilos and drug f""""ked.

airsail
QLD, 754 posts
22 Aug 2021 1:25PM
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Awhile back I was having a good day, about a foot of swell on a fairly shallow beach so the SUP and Mal crew were having a good day. I'd just come off a wave, well it had died out and I paddling out. There was no real zone, peaks popped up anywhere so no real option to paddle out wide.


Half way out a Mal rider (I'm one too but on a SUP that day), came across on a wave, he was a good 50 mtrs away just cruising. I just kept paddling straight so he could go around me, but bugger me if he didn't keep going straight and over the top of the nose of my SUP. We both came off and on turning his board over there was a nice furrow from the nose of my board about a foot long down the middle of his Mal.

He screamed that I owed him a new board as I should have given way, bugger if I know how I could have done that as your not very manoeuvrable paddling out. Would have been so easy for him to just go behind me, I've done it heaps in crowded breaks. Anyway his hatred for SUPS is no doubt imbedded in his brain, note to self, don't surf crowded areas.

Macaha
QLD, 21574 posts
22 Aug 2021 1:49PM
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Why cant we all just all get along

Surfnbjj
NSW, 30 posts
22 Aug 2021 1:59PM
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I find a lot of prone surfers are just looking for an excuse to have a whinge at SUP's. I had an guy have a whinge recently about not looking before bailing off the board when a big clean up set came through. One, I did look, two it was nowhere near him and three, I had no choice in the matter anyway.

micksmith
VIC, 1570 posts
22 Aug 2021 2:42PM
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I don't know if it's got to do with being on a SUP or not as my son was telling me just yesterday surfing (prone) at the cliff ( Dixon park ) a bloke that was continually catching waves and just being a menace had a go at him for taking off on his wave and the day before there was an actual punch on in the water at dicko. So you see it happens to anyone at anytime, some people are just way to aggressive and think it's acceptable behaviour to intimidate and yell at others.

micksmith
VIC, 1570 posts
22 Aug 2021 2:42PM
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Macaha said..
Why cant we all just all get along


Exactly

colas
4351 posts
22 Aug 2021 1:11PM
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I have read that the covid has significantly raised the number of mental issues in people, with the anxiogenic news coverage, economic crisis, politicians fanning the anger (anti-vax, anti-lockdown) for personal gains... Guess it shows also on the water. Weirdos are more numerous and more dangerous.

But surfers going back to the peak straight through the impact zone is something a lot of prone surfers tend to do without realizing it. Or they do it on purpose to snake people waiting their turn, for aggressive surfers wanting every wave. In France we have a proverb "Seeing the straw in other people eye, but not the timber in yours". Surfers will see vividly every little mistake of a SUPer, but will not see the bigger problem of them ruining everybody ride by not going around the riding zone when paddling out.

Souwester
WA, 1206 posts
22 Aug 2021 9:01PM
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Have seen and copped aggro from all board riders wether it is a shortboarder having a crack at a long boarder, SUP having a go at a longboarder or a bodyboarder having a go at a shortboarder - it sucks but have to accept its largely out of our control if someone is an a-hole or having a bad day.

I surf to have fun so dont really let it get to me, I am also super conscious of the craft I am on and how to go about it, not always perfect but it helps I reckon. Bummer if someone's bad attitude ruins your session thats for sure.

bobajob
QLD, 1487 posts
26 Aug 2021 10:58AM
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Isn't the water salty enough without the tears of a clown?

stamp
QLD, 2708 posts
29 Aug 2021 6:33AM
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the thought of 100 litres of out-of-control epoxy on a long leash in the whitewater makes people in the lineup nervous. i think that's fair enough - it makes me nervous too.

i have seen plenty of SUP riders with no or little experience jump on a crowded bank or even join hundreds in the water at very small takeoff areas at the points at noosa. this is what gives us a bad rep, and most surfers are genuinely worried about their safety.

unless i'm with surfers i know well, i always choose a spot with nobody else out, even if the wave quality is not as good. the aggro is just not worth it & ruins a good session....

Benthal
NSW, 2 posts
15 Sep 2021 1:53PM
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bobajob said..
Isn't the water salty enough without the tears of a clown?


Ahhaha! I'm going to use this.

Kami
1546 posts
15 Sep 2021 3:56PM
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micksmith said..

Macaha said..
Why cant we all just all get along



Exactly


Because we are not looking from the same side of the cake



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