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Phantasm has landed in the U.S.

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Created by CoreAS Two weeks ago, 2 Sep 2021
CoreAS
492 posts
2 Sep 2021 11:27PM
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Finally we got some, after the Aussies hoarded the stash of Slingshot Phantasm foils , they are now starting to land in the U.S.

Weight :
Phantasm 926 with short fuse weighed 8.1lbs, the Hover Glide with i76 weighs in at 12.5 lbs

Pro's
1. Very first thing I noticed was how stiff the mast is, it gives you instant feedback! What does that mean exactly? it drives you from point A to B very quickly either upwind or downwind, You can also glide off the wind longer whilst staying in that power zone, when you gybe or turn it does not flex as much like an aluminum mast.

2.You can purchase a wider and stiffer mast called the 103W but I ride pretty upright and don't tend to hike off the rails as much. I also wing foil so the 92cm is one mast for both sports (Plus Florida also has some very shallow area's)

3. The 926 feels like the infinity 84 with terms of low end power but the 926 wing is much more refined through the water, no where near as much drag.

4.The next biggest difference was the exit of speed through the gybes, it felt like I was exiting quicker than going into a turn?

5. Picking up the board and foil, maybe not a big deal for some but my shoulders and back are a little worn out from 40 years of sports, windsurfing and foiling and so carrying everything together especially through surf zones is less impact on those ligaments.

Con's
1.If you have less than a year wind foiling, you may find the 926 sensitive under foot, it reacts way quicker than the hover glide foil, the 926 is not for beginners.
2. You may need to adjust your foiling stance and foil position, some wings are foot foot sensitive, so you will need to experiment with track and mast base positions. Spend time dialing it in.
3. Its Carbon you have to protect it, yes its stronger but not if you're throwing it around or letting the foil fall over, it does come with wing covers!

sunsetsailboards
172 posts
3 Sep 2021 1:40AM
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so, is this performance upgrade more than 10%??

just messing with you dude. Thank you for the write up and giving everybody a video look at the new stuff. we've been waiting for this stuff for years now.

Clew View footage of the footwork is nice

CoreAS
492 posts
3 Sep 2021 3:03AM
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sunsetsailboards said..
so, is this performance upgrade more than 10%??

just messing with you dude. Thank you for the write up and giving everybody a video look at the new stuff. we've been waiting for this stuff for years now.

Clew View footage of the footwork is nice


ha!

Phantasm is a high performance foil for sure! and as you know not all carbon foils are equal with regards to my comment.

For riders really pushing to find the next free-foiling level they will certainly appreciate the phantasm and I think Slingshot sometimes
does an injustice to themselves (much like when the i99 wing came out and saying track boards only)...

The 926 is marketed firmly towards winging....buts its very much a crossover as I also tested it with a wing right after windfoiling it.

I'll be interested in hearing your Phantasm feedback seeing as you have used carbon foils for a while now?

azymuth
WA, 1418 posts
3 Sep 2021 5:45AM
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Awesome review and riding Dean - worth the wait for carbon I'm sure
Phantasm waves/downwinding vid gotta be next?

CoreAS
492 posts
3 Sep 2021 6:41AM
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azymuth said..
Awesome review and riding Dean - worth the wait for carbon I'm sure
Phantasm waves/downwinding vid gotta be next?


Reckon I need the 730 wing for some swellage... but for some unknown reason all those wings are in Western Australia

excav8ter
380 posts
3 Sep 2021 7:50AM
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How many sq. cm. Is the 928? I keep reading that it's a "refined version of the i99".

2keen
WA, 190 posts
3 Sep 2021 8:00AM
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Stoked you got your Phantasm
Hows the glide on the 926, seems to fly through lulls and gybes without any loss of acceleration.
The combination of your mast cam and boom cam really do show your footwork clearly, smooth sailing
Keep the videos coming

CoreAS
492 posts
3 Sep 2021 8:15AM
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excav8ter said..
How many sq. cm. Is the 928? I keep reading that it's a "refined version of the i99".


The 926 is pretty unique! maybe you are thinking of the 928, that's much closer to the i99





CoreAS
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3 Sep 2021 8:22AM
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2keen said..
Stoked you got your Phantasm
Hows the glide on the 926, seems to fly through lulls and gybes without any loss of acceleration.
The combination of your mast cam and boom cam really do show your footwork clearly, smooth sailing
Keep the videos coming


Cheers Simon. The exit speed out of turns was exceptional, that really stood out too me. The longer I rode it more comfortable I felt and pulled off mid way no hands duckie because that's how long you have gliding around the turn

Because of an old back injury I have not been able to crank out the 360's lately so a bit rusty, but I did try 4 or 5 and each time the wing would just buck me off no matter how far forward I would lean, so if you get a chance to try the 926 see if you can whip that around with your stylish 360's.

azymuth
WA, 1418 posts
3 Sep 2021 8:40AM
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CoreAS said..Reckon I need the 730 wing for some swellage... but for some unknown reason all those wings are in Western Australia



Thanks to Jesper - Slingshot distributor extraordinaire

excav8ter
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3 Sep 2021 8:49AM
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CoreAS said..

excav8ter said..
How many sq. cm. Is the 928? I keep reading that it's a "refined version of the i99".



The 926 is pretty unique! maybe you are thinking of the 928, that's much closer to the i99






How versatile do you think the PTM 928 would be for a guy who primarily uses the i84 for windfoiling and wingfoiling? Is it realistic to think it could be a one wing quiver for a while?

Paducah
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3 Sep 2021 9:22AM
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CoreAS said..
The 926 is pretty unique!



It's a lot like the Moses W945 and 940; Lokefoil Freeride, Axis HPS 930 and probably a few more. Nonetheless, glad that Slingshot is making a wider range of higher aspect wings and giving their users some choices.

WsurfAustin
73 posts
3 Sep 2021 9:38AM
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Thanks for posting the vid !. I hope jibe as smooth Some Day..

2keen
WA, 190 posts
3 Sep 2021 4:46PM
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CoreAS said..

2keen said..
Stoked you got your Phantasm
Hows the glide on the 926, seems to fly through lulls and gybes without any loss of acceleration.
The combination of your mast cam and boom cam really do show your footwork clearly, smooth sailing
Keep the videos coming



Cheers Simon. The exit speed out of turns was exceptional, that really stood out too me. The longer I rode it more comfortable I felt and pulled off mid way no hands duckie because that's how long you have gliding around the turn

Because of an old back injury I have not been able to crank out the 360's lately so a bit rusty, but I did try 4 or 5 and each time the wing would just buck me off no matter how far forward I would lean, so if you get a chance to try the 926 see if you can whip that around with your stylish 360's.


Don't give up on those 360's Dean, the 926 is perfect for them!! It glides so nicely that your technique doesn't need to be perfect.
I think the key to a foiling 360 is going in with your front arm straight. Provided your body is upright and balanced over the board by straightening your front arm you are able to push the rig forwards and away. It's this pressure on the mast base that prevents overfoiling 2/3rds of the way around. It's only after you've passed downwind that the rig gets
racked back (front arm still straight) It's at this point that 926 will carry you around with ease.
Look forward to the footage

CoreAS
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4 Sep 2021 6:15AM
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Paducah said..

CoreAS said..
The 926 is pretty unique!



It's a lot like the Moses W945 and 940; Lokefoil Freeride, Axis HPS 930 and probably a few more. Nonetheless, glad that Slingshot is making a wider range of higher aspect wings and giving their users some choices.


Meaning the 926 was unique compared to the infinity wing line up

The engine room is the 12k carbon mast though, it's a beast.

CoreAS
492 posts
4 Sep 2021 6:18AM
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2keen said..

CoreAS said..


2keen said..
Stoked you got your Phantasm
Hows the glide on the 926, seems to fly through lulls and gybes without any loss of acceleration.
The combination of your mast cam and boom cam really do show your footwork clearly, smooth sailing
Keep the videos coming




Cheers Simon. The exit speed out of turns was exceptional, that really stood out too me. The longer I rode it more comfortable I felt and pulled off mid way no hands duckie because that's how long you have gliding around the turn

Because of an old back injury I have not been able to crank out the 360's lately so a bit rusty, but I did try 4 or 5 and each time the wing would just buck me off no matter how far forward I would lean, so if you get a chance to try the 926 see if you can whip that around with your stylish 360's.



Don't give up on those 360's Dean, the 926 is perfect for them!! It glides so nicely that your technique doesn't need to be perfect.
I think the key to a foiling 360 is going in with your front arm straight. Provided your body is upright and balanced over the board by straightening your front arm you are able to push the rig forwards and away. It's this pressure on the mast base that prevents overfoiling 2/3rds of the way around. It's only after you've passed downwind that the rig gets
racked back (front arm still straight) It's at this point that 926 will carry you around with ease.
Look forward to the footage


Great tips Simon, cheers for that.
a lot of muscle and positioning memory involved with 360s, and I was getting close! your straight front arm tip might be just the ticket.
next time for sure I'll go for it.

CoreAS
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4 Sep 2021 6:23AM
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excav8ter said..

CoreAS said..


excav8ter said..
How many sq. cm. Is the 928? I keep reading that it's a "refined version of the i99".




The 926 is pretty unique! maybe you are thinking of the 928, that's much closer to the i99






How versatile do you think the PTM 928 would be for a guy who primarily uses the i84 for windfoiling and wingfoiling? Is it realistic to think it could be a one wing quiver for a while?


Until I try the 928 I'm not sure, sorry!

Also it's not just the front wing, the mast is adding to the exceptional performance. For heavier guys you will for sure notice a big difference.

dejavu
590 posts
4 Sep 2021 10:42PM
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Here's a great "how to" assembly video for the Phantasm foils:


CoreAS
492 posts
Monday , 13 Sep 2021 1:40AM
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Seen lots of questions phantasm on mast lengths.
72, 82, 92, 102, 103W and 82W will be available.





thedoor
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Monday , 13 Sep 2021 2:49PM
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CoreAS said..
Seen lots of questions phantasm on mast lengths.
72, 82, 92, 102, 103W and 82W will be available.






Are the black masts in the far left of the photo aluminium

Gwarn
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Monday , 13 Sep 2021 9:39PM
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www.instagram.com/p/CTnfVODgRZp/

CoreAS
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Monday , 13 Sep 2021 9:55PM
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thedoor said..

CoreAS said..
Seen lots of questions phantasm on mast lengths.
72, 82, 92, 102, 103W and 82W will be available.






Are the black masts in the far left of the photo aluminium


Yes they are aluminum and have wider/stiffer versions of HG

CoreAS
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Monday , 13 Sep 2021 10:02PM
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Great find

I forgot about the 125W mast, that will be some serious height, ha!

So many platforms to choose from, for every wing size, taste and budget.

If you take the infinity wing sizes available right now there will be a phantasm LA and HA version in Carbon or Aluminum masts where you can get to choose exactly what you want. I love this idea! a true "A la carte" menu to tailor the foil for your needs.

ZeroVix
152 posts
Wednesday , 15 Sep 2021 4:20AM
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Here is a video on the new line and HG options. Sorry, but somehow the start video link doesn't work correctly. Start at 4.27.

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CoreAS
492 posts
Wednesday , 15 Sep 2021 5:46AM
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Its great that so much video information is uploaded on the new foil gear, slingshot are really going for it to provide foil solutions for everyone's budget.



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