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Gybing tips to come out planing

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Created by petermac33 2 months ago, 30 Dec 2018
petermac33
WA, 4794 posts
30 Dec 2018 5:08PM
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I can come out planing most times in flat water but as soon as the chop and swell pick up i rarely fully plane out of a gybe,though rarely fall off.

I try to take the methodical approach to gybing over feel.

Approach super high,slight release of both the front and back feet before gybing ensures feet do not get stuck in the straps half way through.

Pull the back hand hard in hard whilst pushing front hand ensures sail is depowered at 90 degrees in to the turn.

I then try to keep upper body very straight whilst still applying lots of force to the leeward rail to carve the board.

Next,I try to time front release with back hand flipping sail over.

I try and complete this sail flip fully no later than 135 degrees in to the turn,that is the board facing 45 degrees downwind. This helps the board maintain speed / doesn't stall.

Lastly,having a board that doesn't bounce / isn't too wide helps a lot too.

My 65 wide Tabou Speedster is the easiest board I've yet owned to gybe. With my 71 cm wide Manta my gybes are consistent but I never,ever come out planing. The arc is so wide with this board resulting in a big loss of speed that I have to pump the sail to get it planing again.

Thinking my next board I might get a Fox 105.

jn1
SA, 1718 posts
30 Dec 2018 7:57PM
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Rigging is important as well. Play with all of the settings. It's a personal thing as well as gear dependant.

Shifu
QLD, 1015 posts
30 Dec 2018 8:41PM
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Planing through a gybe on big gear in rough water is very difficult. Mostly the apparent wind drops to zero at the same time you are plowing through chop. Lots of resistance and no power...

Are you step gybing or going strap to strap?

Sparky
WA, 845 posts
30 Dec 2018 8:02PM
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Peter, I was following you yesterday and you were gybing well. The conditions were very choppy. I found the entry into the gybe was a wild ride but on exit I was planing most times because I found myself on a nice little down hill ramp.

greenleader
QLD, 5194 posts
30 Dec 2018 10:20PM
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yes.....surf that chop, best advise...pick the big one and ride it downwind into the gybe

Haircut
QLD, 6276 posts
31 Dec 2018 10:49AM
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Don't put the back foot too far back once it's out of the foot strap


Learn to "spin" the sail when heading almost dead down wind, don't wait for the wind to flip it

seanhogan
2996 posts
31 Dec 2018 9:25AM
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that planning out of the gybe thing is as fake as moon landing !! all the videos are edited !!!
If it was true I would be able to do it !!!

Dar
157 posts
31 Dec 2018 4:35PM
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seanhogan said..
that planning out of the gybe thing is as fake as moon landing !! all the videos are edited !!!
If it was true I would be able to do it !!!


Imax1
VIC, 1706 posts
31 Dec 2018 9:19PM
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Dar said..

seanhogan said..
that planning out of the gybe thing is as fake as moon landing !! all the videos are edited !!!
If it was true I would be able to do it !!!





Bloody flat earthers,
The only way I can pull that imaginary stunt is on a retarded raceboard and I know that doesn't count .
next there going to say foiling is more than a fad.
Fantastic they say , stiff as a chip they look , I think I know where the missing carrat is .
Ive been drinking

wind012
WA, 124 posts
31 Dec 2018 7:32PM
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Please advise:

a) are you doing a step gybe or strap-to-strap gybe? (I assume you haven't invented a new difficult trick to flip the sail at the same time as you switch your feet?)

b) where and when you are placing your feet?

petermac33
WA, 4794 posts
31 Dec 2018 9:29PM
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Not sure what the difference between the two gybes are. Never really read any articles on technique.

Today,I think I've learned something new.

As you carve wait until exactly the right moment to release backhand and time this backhand flip with front foot release.

The vast majority wait too long to flip the sail over but it's also possible to flip it over too early making balance and the gybe difficult.

Today I flipped it over a few times way too early resulting in a poor gybe.


LeeD
387 posts
31 Dec 2018 11:39PM
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Any technique works, just be sure to flip the sail and sheeting in while still headed 45 degrees downwind after apex.

remery
WA, 345 posts
1 Jan 2019 12:27AM
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Most messed up gybes I see are because people hang onto the sail for too long. Having said that, the technique for flipping a large slalom sail is quite different to the wave sails I'm used to. Always something new to learn...

mark62
258 posts
1 Jan 2019 12:37AM
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Every time I do a full planing gybe, flat or choppy water, I always think to myself, "how the f**k did I do that?" !!!

theDoctor
NSW, 4652 posts
1 Jan 2019 7:18AM
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Maybe ask Mark_Australia how he came out
So very brave of you Pete

Imax1
VIC, 1706 posts
1 Jan 2019 8:23AM
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theDoctor said..

Maybe ask Mark_Australia how he came out
So very brave of you Pete


Coming out planing ., that's a skill.....I find it hard just having a wee while planing.

wind012
WA, 124 posts
1 Jan 2019 6:01AM
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petermac33 said..
Not sure what the difference between the two gybes are.

As you carve wait until exactly the right moment to release backhand and time this backhand flip with front foot release.


Suggest you YouTube ... Step gybe and strap to strap gybe .. then decide which gybe you are doing, then get back to us.

Sounds like you switching feet at the same as flipping the rig, which is your main problem.

It's either:

a) flip rig, sail, change feet (strap to strap - used by wave pros)

b) change feet, sail, flip rig (step gybe - used by slalom pros)

John340
QLD, 1902 posts
2 Jan 2019 5:28PM
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LeeD said..
Any technique works, just be sure to flip the sail and sheeting in while still headed 45 degrees downwind after apex.


This is the key, you need to stay on a broad reach immediately after the sail flip. Moving you front hand to the mast before the mast flip also helps. Keep balanced on the board and look for chop to steer down on the apex of the curve

remery
WA, 345 posts
2 Jan 2019 4:21PM
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I spent decades doing strap to strap gybes on wave boards and had no problem planing through them. I'm doing the GPS thing on slalom boards with bigger sails and having trouble re-programming the brain. As the big sail swings around the board pivots underneath. Suffice to say I don't have a problem making the radius, just keeping decent speed.



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