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Created by Orange Whip Two weeks ago, 4 May 2019
Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
4 May 2019 4:45PM
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Had the Ezzy kids rig out today, uni broke, have a couple of spares, won't fit, too big. All my other bases are RADZ that I've ever changed out. What's the go? Does Ezzy have their own smaller sized uni? Why? Frustrating, would only be a bee's dick in it. Tried to bash it in with a hammer but won't go, so assuming they must make different sized unis???
I'm talking about the rubber thing.

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
4 May 2019 7:43PM
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Over 100 reads and no one knows, guess I'll ring a shop on Tuesday and find out then. Have a good weekend.

decrepit
WA, 9102 posts
4 May 2019 6:00PM
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Are you talking about the tendon"
I have a vague memory of having lots of trouble getting one to fit. I have a feeling I just sanded it down, a bit of lubrication can also help, water would be my first choice.

Could also be the classic, metric versus imperial thing, when you mix euro stuff And USA stuff.

holgs
WA, 265 posts
4 May 2019 8:53PM
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I bought an Ezzy kids rig set a couple of months ago from Surf Sail Australia. When I bought it, Mark changed out the tendon for me as he said he's had some reported breakages with the ones that they come with.
Ask him for advice, he's the Australian distributor.

I have a feeling that the base and the boom are both made by Chinook. The boom looks Chinook. Chinook also sell Chinook branded sails designed and made by Ezzy including Kids rigs very similar to the Ezzy ones. They seem to have a bit of a partnership going. You could try a Chinook tendon.

forceten
653 posts
4 May 2019 9:40PM
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Orange Whip said..
Over 100 reads and no one knows, guess I'll ring a shop on Tuesday and find out then. Have a good weekend.


I think that the set from Ezzy , has a unique EXT.

do yourself a favor ask this guy, and they might even help with a replacement.
david @ ezzy.com

seanhogan
3021 posts
5 May 2019 4:46AM
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can't see how this would help, he doesn't even have team riders to do the R&D on his sails !!!!

forceten
653 posts
5 May 2019 9:44PM
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seanhogan said..
can't see how this would help, he doesn't even have team riders to do the R&D on his sails !!!!


He has a son, he has Kevin Prichard, and he is not a bad sailor. Insert_______ Clown face.

Mark _australia
WA, 19092 posts
6 May 2019 2:13AM
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Sean maybe don't do humour when the yanks are around

Gestalt
QLD, 12052 posts
6 May 2019 5:55AM
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i dunno mark. i thought it a joke when they voted trump in.

some of them must do humour.

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
6 May 2019 7:53AM
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holgs said..
I bought an Ezzy kids rig set a couple of months ago from Surf Sail Australia. When I bought it, Mark changed out the tendon for me as he said he's had some reported breakages with the ones that they come with.
Ask him for advice, he's the Australian distributor.

I have a feeling that the base and the boom are both made by Chinook. The boom looks Chinook. Chinook also sell Chinook branded sails designed and made by Ezzy including Kids rigs very similar to the Ezzy ones. They seem to have a bit of a partnership going. You could try a Chinook tendon.


Yeah I'll contact Mark at Surf Sail and get it sorted. Frustrating because it's a long weekend here and I had grandkids here from 800 k's away and they don't visit very often. Grandson could uphaul my 4.7 but rigged kids rig for grand daughter who is 9. She was keen as but tendon broke so she couldn't get to sail herself. I did go for a couple of laps with her standing in front of me prior so she was really keen to have a go by herself.

olskool
QLD, 1273 posts
6 May 2019 8:46AM
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OW, could you jury rig it? Thread some dh rope under mastbase n half hitch the top? Leaving the broken UJ in place to prevent damage to board. Itd get you on the water.

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
6 May 2019 9:24AM
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olskool said..
OW, could you jury rig it? Thread some dh rope under mastbase n half hitch the top? Leaving the broken UJ in place to prevent damage to board. Itd get you on the water.



They left early this morning mate so I'll just get the right tendon and a spare. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.

Actually, another question - rubber tendons (generally) must have a limited shelf life without use, i.e. they will have a use by date regardless of the amount of use they have? That kids rig has only had about three hours use prior to this weekend and I bought it brand new about 2 years ago. Keen to know the answer to this because it would be pointless having too many spares if they are useless after a certain date without any use.

Imax1
VIC, 1859 posts
6 May 2019 10:02AM
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Rubber does harden over time . There would be heaps of other variables also . If its not sun exposed i would think a lightly used tendon should last more than a couple tears . I change mine every Xmas , just in case . I've seen old rubber joins that have turned hard as glass and shatter when bent.

olskool
QLD, 1273 posts
6 May 2019 12:53PM
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Then again ive used n still have a few from the 90s. Bullet proof it seems no sign of cracking or fatigue. Like everything these days. Built to a price n not Quality. Seems Rubber n Urethane aint what they used to be.
Lack of use seems to wreck it faster.

sailquik
VIC, 4535 posts
6 May 2019 1:36PM
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I have used BOGE hourglass uni's for ever. Best I have found so far. Had a few break eventually, but usually there are warning signs and I should have changed them.

Some of mine are 10 years old and no signs of imminent failure. (I have about 5 that I rotate in use)

On the other hand, I thought the idea of the tendon joints was that they were supposed to be virtually failure proof?? But in practice, I seem to see and hear about just as many, or more failures than hourglass joints. Has anyone who has used both got a more objective read in it?

Is it just an issue of there being some poor quality tendons around, like there is with Hourglass ini's?

olskool
QLD, 1273 posts
6 May 2019 1:52PM
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Sailquik, give me a BOGE hourglass anyday, over ANYTHING else. There is no comparison. Ive got 3 still in service. FROM THE 90s. Only started using tendons 2years ago n have replaced both already.
ELCRAPOLA!!
Think it all comes down to the quality of the material used.

ka43
NSW, 2823 posts
6 May 2019 5:49PM
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Ive been using NP tendons for many years and have never had a problem. I change them out every 3 years or so and keep the used one as a spare.

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
6 May 2019 6:15PM
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How do you know what brand they are? There are no markings at all on the ones I've bought over the years. Perhaps they should have a manufacture date on them. The ones I use are cylindrical with the top and bottom pin at right angles to each other.

olskool
QLD, 1273 posts
7 May 2019 2:55PM
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Latest NP tendon i have is clear. $40 cost.

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 8:14PM
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Well what do you know, received the replacement tendon for the kids rig and it's got a date stamp on it. I've never seen that before.





Imax1
VIC, 1859 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 8:23PM
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^^^
That is awesome , should be industry standard for something that decays over time even without use .
Is that a use by date ? , it's already one and a half years old .

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 8:36PM
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Imax1 said..
^^^
That is awesome , should be industry standard for something that decays over time even without use .
Is that a use by date ? , it's already one and a half years old .


I assume man. date. Pity the holes in it are way too small for the pins. Surely I'm not meant to drill the holes bigger? Shop knew what it was for and invoice says 'Tendon Ezzy kid's rig'.

Imax1
VIC, 1859 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 8:50PM
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I'm not at all surprised .
You know how it is nowadays They won't really care aver a $20 part .
Drill the holes bigger .
Sadly after sales service is a dwindling thing.
All smiles when selling , if your lucky half a dozen phone calls when something goes wrong.
Dont get me started

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 8:54PM
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I'm convinced my windsurfing life wasn't meant to be Ezzy

Imax1
VIC, 1859 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 9:02PM
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Why would u want it ezzy .
It takes all sorts , chilli chocolate , salted caramel , kite surfers , u know the type . Some people

FormulaNova
NSW, 8618 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 9:33PM
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Orange Whip said..

Pity the holes in it are way too small for the pins. Surely I'm not meant to drill the holes bigger? Shop knew what it was for and invoice says 'Tendon Ezzy kid's rig'.


It would be good to have advice from people that have replaced tendons regularly.
I replaced one or two and I think in both cases I used some sort of lubricant and a vice to squeeze the bolt into the hole in the tendon. Does anyone else do this or are they meant to be an easy fit?

Orange Whip
QLD, 567 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 9:57PM
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I've changed a few and never had a problem getting the pin through easily, never had to use lubricant. With this kid's tendon I received the hole would be close to a mm too small for the pin. It's supposed to be a same for same replacement part.

decrepit
WA, 9102 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 8:46PM
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I guess the original was also drilled out.

forceten
653 posts
Friday , 17 May 2019 9:46PM
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I reckon the date is when it was made.

best used by dates in the USA , are required by the Dept of Agriculture. Interesting concept, applies nicely to milk. Consider that Himalayan sea salt millions of years old has a date of about 2years forward best used by.
side note that Himalayan sea sail comes from Pakistan.





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