a problem that has been accruing lately at peli is the kiting area is becoming congested and windsurfers and kiters are mixing, although there is no conflict as yet voiced kiters are having to put off going for tricks and missing opportunities because windsurfers are coming increasingly closer to the kiting area. the kiting area is flatter and the gps guys love that but that's our area to have fun and we have to avoid windsurfers and other kiters now.

we have the down wind area for 2 reasons; one its too shallow for windsurfers and 2: its safer for us to be down wind of your guys.
im only mentioning this because its been too shallow to try stuff of late in the true kiting area and the area that used to be a sort of buffer zone between the 2 craft has been reduced. by the gps guys

the two options are; kiters start to come into the windsurfing zone whilst proceeding up wind - not workable
or you guys try keep in mind that the low tides and banned area have pushed us about 50m up wind of normal. the second option is far better as kites and windsurfers aren't mixing and once the water returns we can move back downwind

thanks
Dave-the guy who has been riding amongst the windsurfers of late

peli isnt a surf spot so that has no relevance to this.
can add people going for new tricks with the gps guys, even when you try to avoid them they manage to sail off down wind of you as your about to jump.
although it must be pointed out that this is a result of the low tides of late-the whole car park half of the kiteing area is only about a foot deep max

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Originally posted by poor relative

I guess the simple answer is NO

Why should windsurfers have to move to accomadate kiters. Why should kiters have to move to acommadate windsurfers.

I guess cooperating, keeping a look out being aware of your surroundings, so on and so on will make everyone happy.

Peli is there for everyone.

Theres too much of this them and us ****.

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Well said... Since when has there been a kite area and a pole area at Peli Sure, kiters tend to be down wind, polers up-wind... Are there local by-laws confirming this division Is there signage Are paddlers and other water uses "aloud" in either "designated" areas

I suspect that water/wind users tend to mix as the wind turns southerly, then south-easterly at the end of the day.

If it's too much to handle, kite somewhere else! There are plenty of places better than Peli

When you turn 18 THEY might start listening to you
Have you tried consulting with the trees before you start doing tricks into them

Kitecrazzzy, having windsurfed at Peli for the last 15 years I find it a bit rich when you say things like "..but that's our area.." The shallows between the beach and the inner dolpin has always been used by windsurfers for about 20 years. The problem is that unlike all other watercraft, kites take up so much space and when riders do tricks their trajectory is unpredictable and their potential for injuring others (esp non-kiters) is much greater.
Given the effect on others I think Kitecrazzzy should be aware that his sport is vulnerable and while he may want to assert his "right" to do high jumps etc in "his" area, he only puts his sport at risk if he inconveniences or endangers others. CaLM ONLY put the bouys in marking the reserve boundary to exclude kiters. Though it has always been a reserve it never bothered them if windsurfers went into the area and it still doesn't. Apparantly the swooping kites scare the crap out of the nesting birds.

back when i was a boy ;) circa 1980, when i first started sailing at peli,i used to give way to kites......when they were on starboard and i was on port.. and even when we were both on starboard i still gave way as an overtaking vessel- same as i do today.
As i do use a gps and tend to sail deep off the wind (a rhumb line that basically joins the carpark with inner dolphin- the big red stick on the point!) i am guessing i am 1 of the culprits being talked about! to my knowledge i dont think i have had an incident with a kite other than experiecing courtesy by having them lift their kites on occasion.
this particular speed run,to inner dolphin,(the same one i have been sailing for 26 summers ) in a south wester,takes me on a starboard hand trajectory towards the point..this means if a kite is coming the other way i.e heading back to the carpark- he or she MUST give way to me as they are on port hand. if we are both on starboard then overtaking craft keeps clear.. simple
To my knowledge i dont believe there is any separate or designated kite/windsurf area and as such i also have no problem with them kiting to the west of the boat ramp.
still it is a very busy part of the river just the same, i do have a suggestion for a perfect kiting area that remains untouched!....... and that is the foreshore of south perth/como!!! perfect kilometers of flat water with the most consistent winds on the swan (in a seo or storm).
sorry about the ramble but another thing i prob should add is as both kites and windsurfers are water way users they must/should both be wary of the rules of the 'road'. when a board or kite is jumping or performing tricks i think at that point all rights a waived until that craft resumes its 'normal'method of travel, ie dont jump or gype in some one elses water!
anyway thats my opinion- for what its worth....one other thing..i must correct is the statement about kites 26 years ago....there were no KITES!!

So Krazzzpy do you understand there is no specific kite area nomatter what the tide?

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Originally posted by snides8
i do have a suggestion for a perfect kiting area that remains untouched!....... and that is the foreshore of south perth/como!!! perfect kilometers of flat water with the most consistent winds on the swan (in a seo or storm).

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... and any crash or kite incident leaves you on the freeway. this area is probably the WORST kiting location around perth. :(

ive heard a few reports about a lot of submerged limestone outcroppings in this area too.

btw kitecrazzzy, just remember so far this season not only have there been a TINY number of kiters around and the windsurfer numbers are also a bit thinned out.