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2016 Goya Carbon Boom (140-190)

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Created by jh2703 > 9 months ago, 23 Nov 2015
jh2703
NSW, 1169 posts
23 Nov 2015 4:40PM
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I just picked up my new wave boom for this season, It's the new "Super Skinny" model from Goya Windsurfing. Previous years saw these components manufactured under the 211 brand name, They are still very similar in construction to their predecessor but are now sporting the Goya brand along with a few new additions to the design. The first noticeable change is the squared off backend similar to the one that NP uses on their carbon booms, There are some difference around how the outhaul rope is attached but still similar and like the NP backend it's nicely constructed and even has some rubber bumpers to stop damaging the boom when placed on the ground. The next thing is the "Super Skinny" feel of the grip, 24.5mm diameter which based on advertised specks makes it one of the skinniest booms on the market. Next is the weight and it's noticeably lighter then my current 211 boom which weighed in at 2.6kg when brand new about 18 months ago, The new Goya "Super Skinny" weighs in at just 2kg. The boom grip looks the same construction as the previous 211 boom which is nice and solid, My current one shows no wear at all after 18 months of solid use.

(pics are just generic ones from the goya website, I was too lazy to take my own)


The Head of the boom is the same as the previous 211 version as far as I can tell, It's nice and firm and rotates around so it can be packed flat when in board bags if required.



The tail piece up close with the loop and go system that is easy to use and adjust. The clips are double pin and offers a very secure connection between the boom and tail piece with no noticeable movement.



Overall a very nicely manufactured product, It really looks the money ($1090 RRP) and I can't wait to test it out on the next windy day...Hopefully tomorrow. I'll give you an update after I give it a run but I'm sure already it's going to be the best boom I've ever used

Cheers.

Mark _australia
WA, 18293 posts
23 Nov 2015 9:04PM
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Never used one but

2.6kg down to 2 is a big drop . Considering all carbon wave booms use similar technology essentially, I'd be cautious. Obviously when they have no more failures after 3yrs than every other boom, then I'll buy one.... but rather not be the guineapig buyer just yet....
But that spec brings it down to Enigma weight...... so maybe it is OK and it was just overweight before?.
Then again:

Clips look same as Severne.
Head very similar (from pics anyway, maybe it isn't)
Loop n go is same as Severne with slight cosmetic diff's

so is it a slightly modified and rebadged Enigma?

I really dunno about the square back end..... it serves no purpose on a wave boom - unlike a freeride / race boom, where that width is nice. So then, why do it? Maybe cost? One tail across all models = cheaper?

Then claiming 24.5mm as being skinniest, when an Enigma is 25mm screams marketing hype so I am offside a bit there.....
hmm
mixed thoughts








seabreezer
81 posts
24 Nov 2015 2:56PM
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re big back end , I think it could add stiffness ? , and like the idea of wider back end and distance between the clips , means you can bag your sail out further without the arms trashing the sail .... flip side is its probably going to hit rocks easier / get damaged / catch on rocks when pilotless getting washed thru rocky spots / lava reef ... I use an enigma , I think the new goya looks sick ... and another good 'slim' option .... my guess is there will be alot of companies bringing out a very similar boom soon ...

what really needs to be resolved generally is bloody clips breaking and popping/jumping .... sick of going through 10 sets per boom ...

NotWal
QLD, 6634 posts
24 Nov 2015 9:12PM
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^ Do you pack your boom away with the clips closed? Leaving them open (in a stretched state) is supposed to contribute to their failure.

seabreezer
81 posts
25 Nov 2015 3:06AM
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Never leave the clips open for more than a few seconds adjusting ... im using my gear alot , so its not like either a boom sits unused rusting the pins out ...

dextersurf
SA, 101 posts
25 Nov 2015 11:35AM
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Good ideas above. I always:
a) rinse
b) remove back-end to ensure it stays dry
c) close clips

All good for about 5 years with my current carbon boom.

jh2703
NSW, 1169 posts
25 Nov 2015 8:07PM
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OK, I've had 2 sessions on the boom now and as you would expect me to say...This boom is awesome. I've been out fully lit on a 5.3 and nicely powered on a 5.7 with some super light wind slogging in both session, I was using the Goya Fringe 2016 for both. Firstly you do immediately notice the reduction in grip size from the 26mm of the previous model, At 24.5mm it feels so thin and to be honest I was concerned that my 100kgs would just snap it in two. The sails do set nicely on the new boom and when bagged out they don't fold over the boom arm as much as they use to with the 211 boom, Not sure if it's the square backend that does this or if the shape has been changed slightly? With the reduction in weight by 600g it very noticeable when tacking, The swing weight has reduced and it makes it effortless to move the sail around in the transition. Comfort wise it's excellent and I've not experienced any arm fatigue at this point even when totally over powered, It was so comfortable that sailing fully lit was no real drama and I chose to stay out when I could have come in and changed down sail size. It feels super stiff, With the 5.7 Fringe the boom was extended out to 173cm and it was rock solid and felt like you could swing off it all day long with no ill effect. The tail piece is a very snug fit, There's no movement at all which I assume is why it feels so stiff. I really can't see any negative points so far, Time will tell I guess and I'll let you know how it goes after a few more sessions.

We all know the Enigma was the best boom on the market for quite some time, I remember back when I first tried one and how blown away I was with it...Guess what, There's a new contender out there now. After using the Goya boom for the first time this week I can say I've felt that same leap forward yet again, This is one sick bit of kit.

If you see me around at Gerroa and want to give it a run just sing out and we'll sort out a test drive...But you must give it back.

Cheers.

uweh
272 posts
25 Nov 2015 6:48PM
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thanks for update...can you make pics of the holes of the "extension-system" of the boom...thanks in advance

uwe

northy1
144 posts
26 Nov 2015 2:45AM
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....is it a re-badged aeron slim boom?

jh2703
NSW, 1169 posts
26 Nov 2015 6:22AM
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northy1 said...
....is it a re-badged aeron slim boom?


I guess it could be as they look very similar other then the head clamp and some differences in the tail, Plus from what I've read the Aeron only has single pin clips for the extension retainers. The only quoted weight I could find on the Aeron was 2.48kg for the 140-190 (Aeron website) so that's a bit different as well.

jh2703
NSW, 1169 posts
26 Nov 2015 6:37AM
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uweh said...
thanks for update...can you make pics of the holes of the "extension-system" of the boom...thanks in advance
uwe


Here's a few more pics of the boom including the extension.

















Cheers.


uweh
272 posts
26 Nov 2015 5:22PM
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thank you very much for the great pics ! greetings uwe

fabgregoire
WA, 39 posts
8 Sep 2016 7:07PM
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I am not sure if the thread is still active, but i would be interested to know how the boom is looking after a whole windsurfing season.
Is it still going strong? No issue with the grip? Anything else worth mentioning?

jh2703
NSW, 1169 posts
8 Sep 2016 9:17PM
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The boom is still going great and the best boom I've owned and used to date. The grip is still 100% but the "Super Skinny" graphics wore off within the first few months but the grip itself has no wear. I've noticed the boom clips outer casing have crack but at this stage don't effect the operation of the boom, I've got new ones to fit but it hasn't been needed at this point.

fabgregoire
WA, 39 posts
10 Sep 2016 3:05PM
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Great, thanks for the update.

sonny2727
VIC, 114 posts
10 Sep 2016 5:13PM
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boom looks great ....I'd consider this if I had fat masts but all my masts are skinny so I'd go with a boom that has dedicated skinny head. Why bother with no skinny heads in way booms...how many people still wave sail with SDM?

uweh
272 posts
10 Sep 2016 5:08PM
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cant believe the goya (aeron) boom is really better then a al360 silm boom...

RichardG
WA, 1861 posts
10 Sep 2016 7:07PM
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uweh said..
cant believe the goya (aeron) boom is really better then a al360 silm boom...







Hi Uweh, where in Australia can one view or purchase the AL360 slim boom ? I have never seen one of these in WA.

I picked up the following review from "2xs website" on the Goya Super Skinny.
see 2xs.co.uk/product/goya-carbon-boom-skinny/

"Five out of Five Stars

Emile Kott
– 6th February 2016:
I just bought one of these. I have had a bunch of different carbon booms including an Aeron, Severne Enigma and others.I have to say that this is hands down the best boom I have ever used:Super skinny is an understatement, there is literally no chance of forearm pump with this – it’s even thinner than the Severne Enigma (which I think was the skinniest boom you could get until this).The thing you really notice though is how stiff it is – my first use was maxed on a 4.2. I really noticed that as strong gusts hit, all that power just turned straight into board speed, rather than feeling like the sail was out of control.If you are looking for a wave boom, look no further.."



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