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Created by Obelix > 9 months ago, 11 Nov 2010
Obelix
WA, 838 posts
11 Nov 2010 8:44PM
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I have a "classic" that has a black label in the middle saying:

Orthogonal Concept
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Tom Ludecke Design

It's a white PVC board. Sturdy. Very sharp rocker lines. May be between 125-135L.
Bougth it in 90-ties.

Is that a Bombora? Has anyone heard about it before?

I just broke 4 PBs with it, so go easy on the insults

petermac33
WA, 5111 posts
11 Nov 2010 8:55PM
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it could be a bombora south pacific,they were around 290 long. the bombora exit was 280 long.
you could not do more than 26 knots could you?

Obelix
WA, 838 posts
11 Nov 2010 9:07PM
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I'm only a beginner, so 22knts for me today.

Mobydisc
NSW, 8583 posts
12 Nov 2010 9:24AM
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I'm pretty sure its a Bombora South Pacific II.

If you got an alpha 500 PB on it you are doing very well. Not the easiest board to gybe.

tobyhodgso
WA, 300 posts
12 Nov 2010 6:59AM
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Have a look here- second last post mentions the orthagonal concept
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Bombora-X-IT/
( if your quick you could get another one on ebay....cgi.ebay.com.au/windsurfer-/260688452035

My first windsurf experience was 10 yrs old on a bombora dromedary at 8am in Bunbury at a sailing regatta as the world slept - my first dawn raid!!

Show us what you have- a pictures tell a mean story of loss betrayal and true love!

Obelix
WA, 838 posts
12 Nov 2010 8:40AM
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I like that other thread. Especially:

They weren't a bad board. At least the weight and flex smoothed out certain types of chop. They were also quite good if they ever fell off the roof of the car.

Mine is a 15kg in it's own right
If my Fanatic Shark touches anything abrasive, and the gelcoat is gone.
A very forgiving material.

It wasn't a bad deal. $120 for the board and a full kid's rig.
Sold the rig for $100, and still use the same uphaul rope.

I tried learning (waterstart, straps etc. ), on it and struggled. Then bought a Fanatic Shark 160L.
12 months later, I tried it again. Everything worked. Even my pathetic attempts to gybe were not worse than on the Fanatic.

Pics in the next response

Obelix
WA, 838 posts
12 Nov 2010 8:43AM
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Obelix
WA, 838 posts
12 Nov 2010 8:56AM
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It feels refreshing after being on a 160L board for so long. The fin is stuck, so no extra effort to fit the fin. The skin is resilient, so no need to fiddle with a bag.

If I like this board, it appears that I'm ready for the next size down. Pointman's Centurion was too advanced for me, so should have picked that Starboard Carve 135L Toby told me about


sausage
QLD, 4798 posts
12 Nov 2010 11:54AM
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Obelix,
Well it definately isn't a Bombora South Pacific Mark I circa mid 80's (pink board in photo)

Obelix
WA, 838 posts
12 Nov 2010 11:47AM
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Doesn't look the same. A bit more sleek maybe. The board holes look different too.

The shape is more similar to the other board on your photo.

I'm quite interested into the volume of this board, as it will determine the what volume my next board is going to be.

Any knows what was the volume of the Bombora X-IT?

I'm about a 100Kg. The board is 15kg. With all the gear this board slowly sinks under me.

Mobydisc
NSW, 8583 posts
12 Nov 2010 4:42PM
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Its definately a Bombora South Pacific II. The II has very little in common with the original South Pac.

Good to read you are enjoying it. Based on this ad they are 135L in volume.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Boards/~rwv9_/1992-Bombora-South-Pacific-292-cm-135-litres.aspx

There were two X-ITs the first had the classic fin box. The second model had the powerbox finbox. Both are about the same volume, around 20 litres less than the South Pac II.

If you can track one down a Bombora 280 then thats a better board. Their rails are a bit softer than the X IT's. They don't have as much volume up the front either.

I had a Bombora 270 and it wasn't too bad for a mid 90s design.

Obelix
WA, 838 posts
12 Nov 2010 2:34PM
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www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Boards/~rwv9_/1992-Bombora-South-Pacific-292-cm-135-litres.aspx

He want $300 for it?
He would be lucky to get $100.

OK, so it is 135L.
As the board is 15kg it would be an equivalent to a 128-130L modern board.

As a friend tried it, I noticed it comes out of the water soon after planning, and stays on that narrow tail and gets fast.

I'll use it for a few months and see where it takes me.
Thanks a lot.

mathew
VIC, 1741 posts
12 Nov 2010 5:54PM
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Its a Bombora X-it.

edit: nup, not sure what I was thinking...

AUS4
NSW, 990 posts
12 Nov 2010 6:48PM
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It is not a Bombora.
It was made in the Sailboards Australia factory which made Bombora Sailboards.
But it is one of a line of boards designed by Tom for Tom Luedecke Design.
Bombora sailboards were designed by Mark Paul.

Obelix
WA, 838 posts
12 Nov 2010 6:19PM
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AUS4 said...

It is not a Bombora.
It was made in the Sailboards Australia factory which made Bombora Sailbords.
But it is one of a line of boards designed by Tom for Tom Luedecke Design.
Bombora sailbords were designed by Mark Paul.


Interesting.
Any web info I can read more about it?

djdojo
VIC, 1520 posts
12 Nov 2010 11:58PM
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AUS4 said...

It is not a Bombora.
It was made in the Sailboards Australia factory which made Bombora Sailboards.
But it is one of a line of boards designed by Tom for Tom Luedecke Design.
Bombora sailboards were designed by Mark Paul.


It is a bombora. I had it's little brother, the X-it back in 1990 and it had the same "orthoganal concept" sticker but 282. The bombora sticker was triangular and on the nose of the board, and in this case evidently peeled off. Bombora South Pac-2.

Tom Designed the X-it then the Zot, then the south pac-2 and a second generation of them with wider tails and less nose and power boxes. All were branded and made as Bombora's. Tom did OK in a Ledge to Lancelin on the Zot-2, maybe 1991/2.

djdojo
VIC, 1520 posts
13 Nov 2010 12:00AM
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Obelix said...

AUS4 said...

It is not a Bombora.
It was made in the Sailboards Australia factory which made Bombora Sailbords.
But it is one of a line of boards designed by Tom for Tom Luedecke Design.
Bombora sailbords were designed by Mark Paul.


Interesting.
Any web info I can read more about it?


It predates the interweb.

Mobydisc
NSW, 8583 posts
13 Nov 2010 6:34AM
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AUS4 said...

It is not a Bombora.
It was made in the Sailboards Australia factory which made Bombora Sailboards.
But it is one of a line of boards designed by Tom for Tom Luedecke Design.
Bombora sailboards were designed by Mark Paul.


Its a Bombora.

I bought a Bombora 270 in 1996 with the word BOMBORA pasted on both sides and a Bombora sticker on the nose. I still have a Bombora 260 under the house bought in 1995 with the Bombora words on them.

You can see Bombora surf skis of the same era around the place.



sick_em_rex
NSW, 1582 posts
14 Nov 2010 11:45AM
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AUS4 said...

It is not a Bombora.
It was made in the Sailboards Australia factory which made Bombora Sailboards.
But it is one of a line of boards designed by Tom for Tom Luedecke Design.
Bombora sailboards were designed by Mark Paul.


Not quite correct there Ric. Bruce McKee actually designed the astro toy and the Capricorn and both those were very much Bombora boards. I know cause I helped in R & D



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