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Sailworks Flyer - Foiling sail

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Created by WindsurfSystems Two weeks ago, 30 Aug 2019
30 Aug 2019 1:51PM
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Sailworks are looking at several changes to the popular Flyer foiling sail range for the 2020 season. The existing Flyer range of 3.9m to 8.2m will likely not change geometrically, but they will introduce some lighter weight laminates for all sails in 2020, as well has some batten adjustments to tweak the draft profiles slightly more forward.
Two new sizes 8.5 and 9.5 will be added to the lineup for performance/competition foiling, they will be 6 batten/3 cam layouts like the yellow prototype seen here in testing:


We'll be stocking in the Flyer range for this season and look forward to seeing the new performance range by Christmas.

excav8ter
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30 Aug 2019 11:46PM
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WindsurfSystems said..
Sailworks are looking at several changes to the popular Flyer foiling sail range for the 2020 season. The existing Flyer range of 3.9m to 8.2m will likely not change geometrically, but they will introduce some lighter weight laminates for all sails in 2020, as well has some batten adjustments to tweak the draft profiles slightly more forward.
Two new sizes 8.5 and 9.5 will be added to the lineup for performance/competition foiling, they will be 6 batten/3 cam layouts like the yellow prototype seen here in testing:

We'll be stocking in the Flyer range for this season and look forward to seeing the new performance range by Christmas.


A 9.5 Flyer!? Wow! Light wind foiling for bigger guys!

LeeD
654 posts
1 Sep 2019 12:06AM
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Allowing Sailworks to join the course race market.

Mark _australia
WA, 19467 posts
1 Sep 2019 1:56AM
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So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?

LeeD
654 posts
1 Sep 2019 4:02AM
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Usually lighter weight, more low end, easier pumping, and softer feel.
Tried my ws Loft 5.8 3 cam the day after a 5.5 Hydra. Same 6-17 breezes.

Subsonic
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1 Sep 2019 8:16AM
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Mark _australia said..
So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?



Lot more leech tension, lighter weight.

Lot of race designs are now going for a square foot so the sail/mast is more upright (and the gap to the board is filled).

azymuth
WA, 747 posts
1 Sep 2019 9:20AM
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Subsonic said..

Mark _australia said..
So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?




Lot more leech tension, lighter weight.

Lot of race designs are now going for a square foot so the sail/mast is more upright (and the gap to the board is filled).


Also worth pointing out that regular wavesails work perfectly for freeride/wave foiling

Subsonic
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1 Sep 2019 9:32AM
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azymuth said..

Subsonic said..


Mark _australia said..
So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?





Lot more leech tension, lighter weight.

Lot of race designs are now going for a square foot so the sail/mast is more upright (and the gap to the board is filled).



Also worth pointing out that regular wavesails work perfectly for freeride/wave foiling


That they do

Orange Whip
QLD, 626 posts
1 Sep 2019 6:11PM
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WindsurfSystems said..
Sailworks are looking at several changes to the popular Flyer foiling sail range for the 2020 season. The existing Flyer range of 3.9m to 8.2m will likely not change geometrically, but they will introduce some lighter weight laminates for all sails in 2020, as well has some batten adjustments to tweak the draft profiles slightly more forward.
Two new sizes 8.5 and 9.5 will be added to the lineup for performance/competition foiling, they will be 6 batten/3 cam layouts like the yellow prototype seen here in testing:

We'll be stocking in the Flyer range for this season and look forward to seeing the new performance range by Christmas.


Um, FYI, there is a separate forum for foiling. This one is for windsurfing gear reviews.

CJW
NSW, 1564 posts
1 Sep 2019 10:00PM
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It is windsurfing gear though? No reason foiling gear reviews can't be in the gear review section?

2 Sep 2019 8:14AM
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Orange Whip said..

WindsurfSystems said..
Sailworks are looking at several changes to the popular Flyer foiling sail range for the 2020 season. The existing Flyer range of 3.9m to 8.2m will likely not change geometrically, but they will introduce some lighter weight laminates for all sails in 2020, as well has some batten adjustments to tweak the draft profiles slightly more forward.
Two new sizes 8.5 and 9.5 will be added to the lineup for performance/competition foiling, they will be 6 batten/3 cam layouts like the yellow prototype seen here in testing:

We'll be stocking in the Flyer range for this season and look forward to seeing the new performance range by Christmas.



Um, FYI, there is a separate forum for foiling. This one is for windsurfing gear reviews.


Like the sign says - "Gear Review"

Basher
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2 Sep 2019 7:03AM
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Mark _australia said..
So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?


When sailing in light winds you are in dinghy racing territory, and a typical rig that works well has a higher aspect and a tighter leech at the head.
The higher rig helps catch the better airflow away from the friction of the water, plus the tight leech harnesses that flow to get you going earlier.
Once foiling you move pretty fast for a light wind day, and that means the 'created' wind forms a great part of the 'apparent' wind you sheet in your sail to. So, for example, you may stay sheeted in even when going well downwind.

forceten
782 posts
2 Sep 2019 7:58AM
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Thanks to the OP, for promotion of the product you sell.
so in addition to it being on the foil topic, it's here.

LeeD
654 posts
2 Sep 2019 10:11AM
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Ezzy 6.6 Infinity works great in 7-15 mphfoiling winds

Mark _australia
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2 Sep 2019 6:35PM
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forceten said..
Thanks to the OP, for promotion of the product you sell.
so in addition to it being on the foil topic, it's here.


That's why site sponsors PAY the site owner.

To promote their wares.

Where da problem at?

Stretchy
WA, 475 posts
2 Sep 2019 8:32PM
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Subsonic said..

Mark _australia said..
So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?




Lot more leech tension, lighter weight.

Lot of race designs are now going for a square foot so the sail/mast is more upright (and the gap to the board is filled).


Seems a bit ridiculous "closing the gap" when there's a massive gap under the board?

forceten
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2 Sep 2019 10:21PM
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Mark _australia said..

forceten said..
Thanks to the OP, for promotion of the product you sell.
so in addition to it being on the foil topic, it's here.



That's why site sponsors PAY the site owner.

To promote their wares.

Where da problem at?


Gear Review, sails boards share your opinion.
so I get a bargain I can promote without paying .

LeeD
654 posts
2 Sep 2019 11:57PM
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Not closing gap, but COE lower to use the lighter wind closer to the water and NOT deal with as much of the stronger wind up high.
Your boom is down low.

LeeD
654 posts
3 Sep 2019 1:30AM
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I suspect light wind foiling sails to become LOWER aspect rather than tall to catch stronger wind up high.
Following the lead of slalom sails.

Paducah
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4 Sep 2019 6:39AM
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Stretchy said..

Subsonic said..


Mark _australia said..
So whats the difference with a sail for foiling?





Lot more leech tension, lighter weight.

Lot of race designs are now going for a square foot so the sail/mast is more upright (and the gap to the board is filled).



Seems a bit ridiculous "closing the gap" when there's a massive gap under the board?


Closing the gap end plates the sail. Since the sail doesn't extend below the board, there's no gap there to worry about.

From what I've read and seen online from those who know about these things: One aspect (no pun intended) of higher aspect sails is reduced backhand pressure when powered up which makes it easier to fly level. Shorter booms are easier to jibe. As well, since the board and sail isn't bouncing all over the place you don't need a longer chord to help the airflow to stay attached as you do with a slalom sail.



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