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Created by MWsails Two weeks ago, 5 Nov 2017
MWsails
115 posts
5 Nov 2017 5:52AM
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Hi ! After so many years of perfecting and simplifying my project , asymmetrical wing sail its ready for commercial release. Ultimate sailing machine become reality now . With wind range 15-45 kt unimaginable stability , speed yet very easy to handle upwind , downwind and jibes. When sailing with wing it feels like liberation , great upwind angle , cross wind speed and stability , downwind is a child play... I sail wing 3- 4 hour session in the deep and shallow waters with wind around 14 kt progressing during the day to 35 kt without any sign of overpowering just pure exiting and amazing feeling of ultimate drive. MWsails.com

madlad
WA, 127 posts
6 Nov 2017 9:33AM
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Pics?

MWsails
115 posts
6 Nov 2017 10:15AM
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madlad said..
Pics?



We will update on our website more pictures. MWsails.com you can also look on youtube channel MW Sails or some videos of the wing in action on my personal face book page: www.facebook.com/stanislav.mostoviy

neilpete
WA, 142 posts
6 Nov 2017 4:01PM
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I think the sail needs a bigger window.
Too much of a blind spot.

MWsails
115 posts
6 Nov 2017 9:37PM
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neilpete said..
I think the sail needs a bigger window.
Too much of a blind spot.


Window on our sail is about same size as traditional racing sail, It looks smaller because our sail is very narrow. Hi aspect ratio. By the way, Good news we're getting a great deal on shipment rates to Australia.

MWsails
115 posts
11 Nov 2017 11:20PM
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MWsails said..


neilpete said..
I think the sail needs a bigger window.
Too much of a blind spot.




Window on our sail is about same size as traditional racing sail, It looks smaller because our sail is very narrow. Hi aspect ratio. By the way, Good news we're getting a great deal on shipment rates to Australia.



Many people asking for video proof, Here is link to YouTube video, Camera mounted on the boom, But you still can see camber reversing , waterstarts and rotation on jibes. More videos coming.

BSN101
WA, 912 posts
12 Nov 2017 12:08AM
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MWsails said..

MWsails said..



neilpete said..
I think the sail needs a bigger window.
Too much of a blind spot.





Window on our sail is about same size as traditional racing sail, It looks smaller because our sail is very narrow. Hi aspect ratio. By the way, Good news we're getting a great deal on shipment rates to Australia.




Many people asking for video proof, Here is link to YouTube video, Camera mounted on the boom, But you still can see camber reversing , waterstarts and rotation on jibes. More videos coming.


Are you posting on other forums other than here in Aust? If so where and what feed back have you been getting.

ZeeGerman
42 posts
12 Nov 2017 12:22AM
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Is it just me?
Would be eager to see the sail doing what it's been designed for.
But I can't follow the link: unlike other video-urls, it asks me to register, claiming that I can only upload videos if I have a Channel (Youtube, not 500m Speedsailing, I assume). I don't want to upload anything, though, just watch.

ZeeGerman
42 posts
12 Nov 2017 12:26AM
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Oooops!
It works now, must have been an evil spirit!
So forget my first post, please!

MWsails
115 posts
12 Nov 2017 12:27AM
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ZeeGerman said..
Is it just me?
Would be eager to see the sail doing what it's been designed for.
But I can't follow the link: unlike other video-urls, it asks me to register, claiming that I can only upload videos if I have a Channel (Youtube, not 500m Speedsailing, I assume). I don't want to upload anything, though, just watch.



Go to youtube.com and in the search box type MW Sails . You will find many of my videos there. Don't forget to subscribe to my channel because more videos coming in . Thank you!

gorgesailor
11 posts
12 Nov 2017 8:01AM
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Curious how you got a patent on it with the Dan Kasseler sail as previous art?

MWsails
115 posts
12 Nov 2017 12:15PM
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Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.

gorgesailor
11 posts
Tuesday , 14 Nov 2017 4:54AM
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MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.


Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.

MWsails
115 posts
Tuesday , 14 Nov 2017 9:28AM
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gorgesailor said..

MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.



Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.


Great, so its clear. Now I open for any comments and Q -s about wingsail design an performance.

John340
QLD, 1680 posts
Tuesday , 14 Nov 2017 12:32PM
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MWsails said..

gorgesailor said..


MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.




Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.



Great, so its clear. Now I open for any comments and Q -s about wingsail design an performance.


Some comparative GPS results would be instructuve

BSN101
WA, 912 posts
Tuesday , 14 Nov 2017 11:42AM
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John340 said..

MWsails said..


gorgesailor said..



MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.





Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.




Great, so its clear. Now I open for any comments and Q -s about wingsail design an performance.



Some comparative GPS results would be instructuve


Any demo sails available? Where?

MWsails
115 posts
Tuesday , 14 Nov 2017 11:54AM
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BSN101 said..

John340 said..


MWsails said..



gorgesailor said..




MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.






Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.





Great, so its clear. Now I open for any comments and Q -s about wingsail design an performance.




Some comparative GPS results would be instructuve



Any demo sails available? Where?


Yes, we have demos in USA MWsails.com

Mastbender
1466 posts
Wednesday , 15 Nov 2017 2:40AM
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Are you posting on other forums other than here in Aust? If so where and what feed back have you been getting.


www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33027&sid=af92a9e72ecc18dad3af0eb5f0a46c3d
There is quite a bit there.

MWsails
115 posts
Wednesday , 15 Nov 2017 11:05AM
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gorgesailor said..

MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.



Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.


Yep despise fact that all sailing speed records on land and water has been done with wing. Or probably simply lack in knowledge of basic aerodynamics, yep ,could be just that.

ned321
30 posts
Thursday , 16 Nov 2017 3:22AM
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17 pages already on iwindsurf forum in the US
www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33027&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=7a9ad586c6317837e13ff8bd05da82dc

gorgesailor
11 posts
Thursday , 16 Nov 2017 6:43AM
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MWsails said..

gorgesailor said..


MWsails said..
Dan Kasseler sails has nothing to do with my design, He did something really strait forward and simple. I Have really complex machine. It just has been simplified in many unique ways. Many small and clever ideas that I put together assembled in really complex structure hidden in final design. By the way I spoke to Dan Via Messenger 3 years ago , He doesn't believe in asymmetrical wing idea. He doesn't believe in full body profile for windsurfing,,, I still have proof on my phone.




Oh I believe you. Obviously he doesn't believe in it or he would still be pursuing it 15yrs later with his current Avanti sails.



Yep despise fact that all sailing speed records on land and water has been done with wing. Or probably simply lack in knowledge of basic aerodynamics, yep ,could be just that.


Haha, Yes that idiot. What is he thinking ... Good thing you are here with your superior intellect to show those fools!

MWsails
115 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 10:18AM
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I would not call Dan an idiot. He probably has his reasons, corporate obligations, etc. Despite your irony. My work has solid foundation built by thouse guys who's trial and failures cleared path for my work. Even if they dont share my point of view, I remain grateful and respectfull for what they have done.

MWsails
115 posts
Saturday , 18 Nov 2017 10:18AM
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I would not call Dan an idiot. He probably has his reasons, corporate obligations, etc. Despite your irony. My work has solid foundation built by thouse guys who's trial and failures cleared path for my work. Even if they dont share my point of view, I remain grateful and respectfull for what they have done.

gorgesailor
11 posts
Today , 21 Nov 2017 3:57AM
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I would not call Dan an idiot. He probably has his reasons, corporate obligations, etc. Despite your irony. My work has solid foundation built by thouse guys who's trial and failures cleared path for my work. Even if they dont share my point of view, I remain grateful and respectfull for what they have done.


You don't sound grateful or respectful. In fact this is the primary reason why many others are so critical of your work. Has nothing to do with the idea, just the fact that anyone who has so little respect for others work ... well, you have to question their intelligence. If you truly had a grateful & respectful tone, I think many would be much more open to your product - even helpful.

MWsails
115 posts
2 hours ago , 21 Nov 2017 9:55AM
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MWsails said..
I would not call Dan an idiot. He probably has his reasons, corporate obligations, etc. Despite your irony. My work has solid foundation built by thouse guys who's trial and failures cleared path for my work. Even if they dont share my point of view, I remain grateful and respectfull for what they have done.



You don't sound grateful or respectful. In fact this is the primary reason why many others are so critical of your work. Has nothing to do with the idea, just the fact that anyone who has so little respect for others work ... well, you have to question their intelligence. If you truly had a grateful & respectful tone, I think many would be much more open to your product - even helpful.


You probably misread the whole thing. It is not about me, or you , or other designer. This is about new product , with plane explanations WHY THIS TIME ITS WORKING. Sorry I didn't put it on your favorite plate. Just explained the way it is.



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