I have not used O&E but my West has the nice stiff brim. Used it in 30kn and not even aware it is there. Has never flapped downwards into my field of vision or anything. Love it

I've had both. Ocean and earth lasted about 3 years before the stitching gave way and broke. It was perfect no drama whatsoever I now have had a west since half way through the summer. It feels the same. You can't go wrong with a gumby hat better than shades i reckon.

They look much cooler than having half your face, ears, scalp, and eyes chopped off/out due to cancer. I'm a happy hat wearer!