Type of glue for kite bladders??

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dorothyinste
dorothyinste
QLD
481 posts
QLD, 481 posts
25 Aug 2012 5:41pm
Just bought an old C kite that has all the inflate valves peeling away from the bladders. Ten new inflate valves are going to cost as much as the kite is worth.
My question, is it possible to glue the old valves back on, what type of glue? Brand?
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Aseela
Aseela
WA
168 posts
WA, 168 posts
25 Aug 2012 3:53pm
An unlucky purchase! In the past I have used clear aquaseal(diver's wet suit glue).
I dare say though other people may have some more up to date recommendations. The trick is to glue the value then keep it under pressure by putting a small steel cylinder over the valve then a weight over that. The cost of new stick-on valves is not viable due to your purchase cost as you state.
yellowvtr1
yellowvtr1
NSW
45 posts
NSW, 45 posts
25 Aug 2012 6:14pm
I've used stormsure to do some valve repairs and also repaired a large hole in a bladder with it
Got it from Clark rubber around $15 a tube,one hint after you use it put the unused glue in the freezer so it won't go off , then when you need it again just take out and let it thaw out
Hope this helps. Good luck with the repairs
Saul
NSW, 4382 posts
25 Aug 2012 6:27pm
Thats a bummer, Stormsure glue works best, get the larger tube $9.95
www.kitepower.com.au/collections/kitesurfing/SPGeneral

Remove the bladder from the kite completely, and clean the valves and bladder with alcohol wipes, apply a bead of glue around the base of the valve ans place onto the bladder wind some weights like sockets that will sit over the valves and then leave for 5-8hrs or overnight. They will be stuck tight, then refit the bladders. Test inflate the bladders if any of the glued valves look like they may have an air track. Spray with a mix of water and detergent, any leaks will be clearly visible.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
25 Aug 2012 4:33pm
"Sweda" is the glue you want if you can find it.
Wanga F One
Wanga F One
QLD
231 posts
QLD, 231 posts
25 Aug 2012 7:39pm
The key ingredient to look for is methyl ethyl ketone. More welds than glues.
kevinwd1
kevinwd1
QLD
125 posts
QLD, 125 posts
25 Aug 2012 8:10pm
I used Selleys Urethane bond to glue 12 valves on a North kite about six months ago .Make sure you clean off all the old glue using the alcohol wipes and give the bladder and valve surfaces a rub with some wet and dry sandpaper .Also cut up some pieces of paper about 100mm square and place inside the bladder to stop any excess glue accidently gluing the bladder together. Use a weight to push on the valve while the glue goes off. Best to leave it over night. Of the 12 valves I had two that leaked and they were easily found after inflating the kite and spraying on a mixture of detergent and water. Fixed them buy gluing a piece of old bladder material on top of the valve. I've had no problems since
Gippy13
Gippy13
VIC
119 posts
VIC, 119 posts
26 Aug 2012 3:15pm
I used a sikaflex glue/sealant product, water proof, uv proof, and in my opinion: bomb proof
dorothyinste
dorothyinste
QLD
481 posts
QLD, 481 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:20am
Kitepower Australia said...

Thats a bummer, Stormsure glue works best, get the larger tube $9.95
www.kitepower.com.au/collections/kitesurfing/SPGeneral

Remove the bladder from the kite completely, and clean the valves and bladder with alcohol wipes, apply a bead of glue around the base of the valve ans place onto the bladder wind some weights like sockets that will sit over the valves and then leave for 5-8hrs or overnight. They will be stuck tight, then refit the bladders. Test inflate the bladders if any of the glued valves look like they may have an air track. Spray with a mix of water and detergent, any leaks will be clearly visible.



Great stuff, bought a tube (Stormsure) from Clark Rubber. Contains Ethyl Ketone, just like one poster here said i should look for. Sticks like ****e to a blanket.
Thanks for the information.
dorothyinste
dorothyinste
QLD
481 posts
QLD, 481 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:28am
Gippy13 said...

I used a sikaflex glue/sealant product, water proof, uv proof, and in my opinion: bomb proof


After buying a tube of Stormsure, i remembered i had a tube of marine grade Sikaflex. So I did a test patch with an unused valve and piece of scrap bladder material. Works just as well as the Stormsure. The advantage of Sikaflex, it is a thicker paste type glue, not so messy, does not run.
Both products are excellent for repairing valves onto bladders IMO.

dorothyinste
dorothyinste
QLD
481 posts
QLD, 481 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:32am
Wanga F One said...

The key ingredient to look for is methyl ethyl ketone. More welds than glues.


Printed on side of Stormsure tube 'contains ethel ketone'
Great product, saved $150, as opposed to buying ten new stick on valves.
dorothyinste
dorothyinste
QLD
481 posts
QLD, 481 posts
27 Aug 2012 8:35am
yellowvtr1 said...

I've used stormsure to do some valve repairs and also repaired a large hole in a bladder with it
Got it from Clark rubber around $15 a tube,one hint after you use it put the unused glue in the freezer so it won't go off , then when you need it again just take out and let it thaw out
Hope this helps. Good luck with the repairs
Saul


Thanks Saul, I did it your way.
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Aug 2012 9:28am
Any glue that is polyurethane based works, Stormsure, that we sell is polyurethane, and comes in small tubes.
The only problem is once its opened, the whole tube goes hard within a couple of weeks.
I'll try the freezer trick though.
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