Any news on pricing and preorder dates?
Pricing will either be the same or within an increase of $50-100AUD, hoping it will be the same or within $50 max increase.
Pre orders, you can place them now, but dealers cannot order the kites on the Ozone order system yet, I'm expecting they will come online within the next 7-10 days.
The new push away chicken loop will not be available on any 2013 kites, Ozone have only just received prototypes for testing and they will not release a product unless it has been thoroughly tested by a wide variety of users for at least 6 months. This means we will not see it on any 2013 kites and that if it passes all tests it will be made available on the first of the 2014 kites. The chicken loop assembly will be able to be retro fitted to all 2012/13 kite bars.
Seriously disappointed. I'm all for testing but ozone have had a full year since they had trouble with their last batch of bars. Fail
Ozone are one of the leading manufactures as far as quality goes, however in my opinion they are now years behind the leaders in regards to safety systems. Their current pull towards systems are safe to general freeride riders, but they just don't cater to freestyle/unhooked riders that ride suicide.
Ozone just might be (correct me if I'm wrong) the only brand that doesn't have a dual safety system where it is possible to ride suicide yet still have access to a complete flag out safety when needed immediately. I have had many instances where I have got into trouble when riding suicide (known that there is a high possibility of the kite looping/ripped by waves) yet I've had to wait several anxious seconds disconnecting the carabiner from suicide to the safety loop - NOT FUN.
Was set to buy a quiver of three 2013 C4's with the new push away release system playing a big factor towards the purchase. With the new chicken loop set for release in 2014, I'm thinking of looking at other manufactures or possibly riding my current 2011 c4's into the ground.
I have found myself in trouble when hooked in (yet still in suicide mode) therefore still giving me access to pull the release. I can't pull the release though until i reposition the carabiner. Once had a fuel fly through my lines sending my kite into a "soft" loop. Managed to get my safety connected in time though.
Steve I will send you an email regarding the package you sent me. If I stick with my 2011's i'll reimburse you accordingly. Thanks mate
Been riding a quiver of C4's for the last two seasons. Was super keen to get the 2013's with the new bar but its all starting to get a bit too hard - Price rise and no new bar again!
I was also looking at C4's for 2013, but coming from another manufacturer the bar feels miles behind so for me the C4 is off the short list this time. I did demo a 2012 one. Downsides for me are the bar being super fat in the middle, limited safety options for unhooking, no stopper ball so the bar shoots up when I unspin my lines, girlfriend can't reach the depower clear and just don't like those pointy plastic things on the end of the bar. Obviously some of this is personal preference and some is purely functional. The kite is very nice, but it didn't blow me away enough to go with the bar. Of course you can use a different bar but when you come to sell second hand buyers want the bar that goes with the kite.
Whats the RRP on a 11 metre (kite only) 2012 model ?
Just so I have a idea of how much cash i need to stash outta sight of the wife between now and release date?
I've been riding ozones for the last few years and while the kites are good I reckon the bar is sooo outdated and crappy. The "feel" of the bar is simply crap, just try a north or bws bar and you'll know what I mean..
I've been waiting for the new bar for almost 2 years (I saw 1st proto pic back then - it looked good!) and been willing to buy it when released.
Anyways.. different bar may be an option now have to wait another year (or longer).
Any recommendations for bar substitutes that will work with Ozone kites?
I like the current bar am not too phased whether I get a new model one or old. However I definitely won't be paying more for the same or less, I think that's maybe something ozone and dealers need to think about before bumping their price up.
Safety system, big eeezeee if you are sooo heavily reliant on the safety system don't ride on the suicide you kook!
Or you could ride with 2 leashes one on suicide and one on flag out
I think the current safety system is fine and is in no way years behind, ozone just doesn't fall into the whole more safety, better safety makes more sales rubbish!
"ooooh better go buy a cabrinha it has SDS safety system" < must be really advanced because it has a heap of springs on it. " better go buy a north it has 5th line, must be safer" < I've seen more go wrong because of 5th line than without it. Few examples.
Ozone is all about simplicity, and it's simple as choose to ride either flag out or suicide.
You just keep using those sand bags to keep your kite safe and secure on the beach mate! Wouldn't want some wet sand discolouring your crispy white canopy.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think the bar is outdated. It's 3 years old and all they've done is put some neoprene around the clam cleat and thin the line floats. I think the current bar is almost perfect besides the chicken loop. All they need to do is drop the safety line through the middle of the chicken loop, push away release and they could manufacture that bar for the next 10 years.
Ozone would have had a similar safety system to North and Cabrinha if they could get their **** together - Simple as that! Has nothing to do with them not buying into "safety equals sales" nonsense you are dribbling on about...
IKR wet sand!!!
doesnt mean its outdated mate, and tbh last thing i personally want is a crappy line running through the guts of the bar getting worn away with every movement of the bar like the norths and naish's etc...usually within 3 months from new they look like a frayed pile of crap and dont look safe at all.
i own four ozone bars, 2 2011 bars, 1 2012, 1 2010 and theyre all still in great condition, the trim line etc
Agreed the CL needs to be push away release, ive started riding SB last season,and have had very little time on TT since. I've had trouble with the pull release while i was unhooked freestyle, was annoying, but no biggy.
Havent started unhooking in waves yet still getting it clued out, so will see how that goes.
^^ Ozone should really provide the new CL retrofit for free to all the loyal ozone users, constantly upgrading kites without a bar upgrade for so many years. The new bar is always being released "next year" lol.
While it is amusing watching you ozone folk bicker like little bitches I do understand ya frustration. Don't feel to bad the bandit 6 is being released with a bar setup that I was using back in 1997. Now thats stupid.
Just buy the kites I reckon. As this is 99 percent of why you fly an ozone kite. It it's not ya have ya head up ya ass and need to get real.
Bang on! id even go as far saying we should get the whole new bar and CL when its released, for freeeeeeeeeeeee!!!. 2 seasons we've waited already, 3 is beyond a joke.
Well today I went out and purchased a new line set 200 bucks, so I will be definitely buying a new kite only and thrashing my bar into the ground.
Positives of my bar:
- Fly's kite
- Feels comfortable to me
- Easy to de-power on the fly
- Release system could be improved
IMO the ozone kites are bloody fantastic, the bar is simple and practical.
I'm only newish to the kiting world and haven't had any problems caused by my equipment and feel confident and happy with my kite and bar.
Bring on the 2013, ill be happy to get a new bar when it comes out because I know that it will be quality.
release date looking like it's november
heya guys im 9/10 stone and im not sure what size kite to get in the c4 i was looking at 7/8m but not sure im riding a crazyfly raptor pro 127/38 2012 model too
Eppo. Go watch the bandit details on production re: bars.
They look super strong and simple and comfortable. I personally like the ozone bar, and love my race bar. I want something I can rely on when I'm looping my c4 in 30 knots. Not some new shiny plastic and colorful bar that could kill me.
You wonder why people give you thumbs down...
Used all my red thumbs on the Griffin thread again Sorry eppo you miss out this time
Saw a new C4 picture on facebook today, not from ozone.
and when i asked ozone on their page for some pictures or a promo vid or something they just deleted it, not even a reply.
I love my ozones, but i wonder, How do they sell any kites?
Nobody knows what they're buying till its after the release, No official pre-order date announced, no official Pictures or R&D information, no official news on the new bars status (just hear-say at the moment).
All in all just poor business management if you ask me.