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QLD
Vatican City
3844 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 6:21 am        Report
Just read it, then discuss. Common sense to self regulate or be regulated.....
WA
24860 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 6:31 am        Report
I read that this morning as well couldn't find a link to post up here. Noway could they regulate this, imagine someone trying to stop you from surfing an area,no sorry mate the sup section is up there and the mal section is down there,this is the shortboard section.
QLD
1677 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 8:28 am        Report
can someone cut and paste? sounds like this could be a 10 pager atleast....
QLD
Vatican City
3844 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:13 am        Report
I know that posting things on this page these days is likely to cop great criticism from people. I know that everyone has a right to enjoy the waves, I get it. BUT a double page spread about the danger of SUP in the weekend edition of the local paper is not a good thing. Not for relationships with other surfers, not for retailers or manufacturers selling SUP. It's all round not that great. Whether you think the media has no influence or not the article remains and people will talk about it. Whether it's accurate or not is irrelevant. There are no online links yet. The pic below is the article, you maybe able to zoom and read but you will get the drift in the headlines.
QLD
3641 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:18 am        Report
Hope they diidnt take a pic of currumbin today , would have been 50 race sups out . But they werent in the surf zone , just doing in and outs. Just a media beat up , i surf the Alley a fair bit and 99% of sups stay out wide. I really dont see much aggro thier at all , and when I do its beween the prone guys mostly.
VIC
3332 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:32 am        Report
I can't read the article but from the headlines it looks like a slam at SUP, yet using a Joel Parkinson quote where he criticises Mal kooks for letting their boards go at Snapper. Are SUP surfers now responsible for incompetent longboarders according to this article?
QLD
Vatican City
3844 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:39 am        Report
PTWoody said...
I can't read the article but from the headlines it looks like a slam at SUP, yet using a Joel Parkinson quote where he criticises Mal kooks for letting their boards go at Snapper. Are SUP surfers now responsible for incompetent longboarders according to this article?
It is a slam at SUP but is basically saying that the Gold Coasts breaks were already at breaking point and dangerous. The SUP angle is kind of a straw that broke the camels back type thing. Parko's quote is in context of the article. As the newest, most visible entrant to the scene it's an easy angle. As Tea Tree said and I completely agree instances are rare, probably no more prevalent than with other craft but a double page in a paper everyone reads probably requires some kind of structured response.
QLD
3641 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:40 am        Report
the paper just probably got a bit of stick , over the last few weeks it has run a few positive sup articles , about Jamie one about Angie & Peru. It,s not that negative towards sup more about overcrowding in general.Apart from the bloke who got his ribs smashed by a Sup.
Japan
30 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:40 am        Report
papers like this are known for pulling these kind of stunts : "we contacted XX and got no response", "YY was unavailable for comment" , then they write one side only + mostly BS and call it gospel. they do it to sell papers only, they don't care about what they are doing to local business or local people targeted by their lies. when contacted for a retraction they say "that writer has been dismissed" or similar BS. don't even wipe your ass with these kind of papers...
VIC
492 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:48 am        Report
I like the Indian ocean highway a little quieter and wider, and a toch cooler
QLD
Tanzania
11446 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:56 am        Report
i really don't know what can be done. long time surfers who now sup have the street smarts to stay away from trouble most of the time. then you have local blokes like teatrea and say husq who didn't surf before supping but have the 'smarts of seasoned surfers, non surfer background types i suppose are the targets for these beat ups, but again its subjective. personally, and no offence to the longboard crew, my woes and hits have been from beginner mal surfers. the alley is rampant with learners, but thats the way it is. on the training issue at the alley this morning, yes with the two groups. fifty race board was about right. despite starting at 5.30am, there are fair amount of recreational surfers out there i have got to say if i was recreational surfing this morning i wouldn't have been too impressed. now on the other hand, i think the two training groups need to address the situation- it's dangerous for us with so many learners out there , they tend to panic and do some stupid things out there
QLD
Vatican City
3844 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 9:58 am        Report
airSUP said...
papers like this are known for pulling these kind of stunts : "we contacted XX and got no response", "YY was unavailable for comment" , then they write one side only + mostly BS and call it gospel. they do it to sell papers only, they don't care about what they are doing to local business or local people targeted by their lies. when contacted for a retraction they say "that writer has been dismissed" or similar BS. don't even wipe your ass with these kind of papers...
Yeah, except this article has quotes from local retailers, well known surfing identity lawyers, sitting councillors, marine rescue and a bloke with 5 broken ribs all making a pretty bad case.
6657 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 10:07 am        Report
Things are probably coming to the point Australia-wide where retailers of all watercraft (and by that I mean equipment let's say) will have to provide "best practice" advice and/or warnings when they sell their products. Some already do. From my point of view when I go out it's about giving respect & the etiquette that we (should) know to other folks - nothing finer than having a stoke shared amongst a crew (and it's even better stoke if I don't know 'em and we're getting a cackle out getting wet). Given up plenty of good waves to other blokes & gals in bad positions or who've cut in along the line , didn't really care as there's always another wave!!! I also try not to enter big crowded line-ups , just too hard , too much inevitability -doesn't matter what I've chosen to ride that day on that one either. As for segregation or bans - geez how hard is that going to be?
QLD
Tanzania
11446 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 10:10 am        Report
CMC said...
airSUP said...
papers like this are known for pulling these kind of stunts : "we contacted XX and got no response", "YY was unavailable for comment" , then they write one side only + mostly BS and call it gospel. they do it to sell papers only, they don't care about what they are doing to local business or local people targeted by their lies. when contacted for a retraction they say "that writer has been dismissed" or similar BS. don't even wipe your ass with these kind of papers...
Yeah, except this article has quotes from local retailers, well known surfing identity lawyers, sitting councillors, marine rescue and a bloke with 5 broken ribs all making a pretty bad case.
local retailers are probably smarting from the fact they are most likely losing sales to sups. i'm probably the cause why base went down
NSW
1119 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 10:28 am        Report
For many in the industry, SUP has been and is purely the business of making money with no interest in the sport or experience in the rules and regs we as surfers follow so with new entrants entertaining the idea of being involved especially doing homework by reading forums and mags before having a crack, it's always going to end in tears. Sups can ride rivers, creeks, oceans and the like, take advantage of that and piss off out of the surf breaks cause you are an absolute pain in the arse entering 'surfboard' line-ups. Yes, I've ridden sups in the surf and absolutely hated trying to twist and turn a blob of a board around surfers with not a pinch of stoke that you get from a surfboard. Go downwind, go creek adventuring and ripple riding but stay out of the surf unless your in the 1% who rip it apart and can gain respect quickly or know spots that are not populated or are far away from the known and / or crowded banks. SUK'n a gold coast point is not using common sense for the majority, it's plain stupid. (Stand Up Kook)
Happy with red thumbs.....they'll be from non surfers, REAL surfers will totally understand what I'm saying.....The video says it all. Pretenders.
QLD
20 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 10:39 am        Report
supanimal said...
For many in the industry, SUP has been and is purely the business of making money with no interest in the sport or experience in the rules and regs we as surfers follow so with new entrants entertaining the idea of being involved especially doing homework by reading forums and mags before having a crack, it's always going to end in tears. Sups can ride rivers, creeks, oceans and the like, take advantage of that and piss off out of the surf breaks cause you are an absolute pain in the arse entering 'surfboard' line-ups. Yes, I've ridden sups in the surf and absolutely hated trying to twist and turn a blob of a board around surfers with not a pinch of stoke that you get from a surfboard. Go downwind, go creek adventuring and ripple riding but stay out of the surf unless your in the 1% who rip it apart and can gain respect quickly or know spots that are not populated or are far away from the known and / or crowded banks. Sup'n a gold coast point is not using common sense for the majority, it's plain stupid.
Maybe we should get a patch on our chests like the bikies to say if we're the 1% who can surf or not. How about you can be the judge and we'll have some kind of initiation ceremony were we can burn a "kook" at the stake
NSW
1119 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 10:43 am        Report
No need, the 1% stand out from the car park before they even hit the sand, the kooks dribble and drool, fall off, make arses of themselves and do as the kook in the video did.....I'll put you in that category based on the reply. Surf = Surfing, SUK = paddling. Different breeds. If you want to surf, learn how to surf not pretend to surf with a paddle. Go paddling or go surfing.....unless your red hot and trained up quietly and away from the crowds.......the 1%ers. Examples.... Down here, unless your hot, you paddle Willies, Bulli etc and don't tempt Sandon, Sharky's or Headies unless your up to the task, down south, you don't paddle out at say Werri, Flatrock, Green Island or Bendalong unless you've clocked endless hours and are fully competent on the empty beach breaks that a littered on the coast. Assume on Goldy you'd paddle across the Seaway and go up the beach and out of the way at Sth Straddie before you plagued the southern peaks or attempted the Spit and if you can't get up early and find an empty bank between Southport and Coolangatta to serve your apprenticeship, why would you think you'd have right to paddle out on one of the points ? It's no different to surfing in the 70's......if you were not up to the task, you didn't paddle out at such spots and if you did, you'd have a fist in your face pretty quick.....I don't condone violence at all but that was the way I grew up and it's no different now, ply your trade out of harms way then have a crack when your buddies tell you that your ready. ShireSUP has the idea, 12 months in the Bay, now heading to Greenhills and into waves on his own and not tempting fate at The Alley or Point.....using some brains and in time, he'll be competent to have a crack but knowing his limits, abilities and using common sense in the meantime while putting **** loads of hours and energy into getting there...doesn't happen overnight as a SURFER would know.
QLD
1641 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 10:54 am        Report
Waste of paper and 2 pages if you ask me. Can't really see anything ever happening about any of it. Everyone just needs to learn to live with it and play nice. You may aswell included every single water based activity. Recently over in Peru there were plently of Sup's, Mals and Shortboards all sharing the breaks, everyone enjoying it all with no bad mouthing at all. Oh and you also add racing sup's in there aswell. At the end of the comp people were buying any sort of SUP they could get including Surf Sup and Racing Sup's. The article that is in today's paper is very out of touch with what's really happening not only here but all over the world. Good luck with that. Just surf anything and have fun for god's sake!! X angie
QLD
20 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 11:06 am        Report
supanimal said...
No need, the 1% stand out from the car park before they even hit the sand, the kooks dribble and drool, fall off, make arses of themselves and do as the kook in the video did.....I'll put you in that category based on the reply. Surf = Surfing, SUK = paddling. Different breeds. If you want to surf, learn how to surf not pretend to surf with a paddle. Go paddling or go surfing.....unless your red hot and trained up quietly and away from the crowds.......the 1%ers. Examples.... Down here, unless your hot, you paddle Willies, Bulli etc and don't tempt Sandon, Sharky's or Headies unless your up to the task, down south, you don't paddle out at say Werri, Flatrock, Green Island or Bendalong unless you've clocked endless hours and are fully competent on the empty beach breaks that a littered on the coast. Assume on Goldy you'd paddle across the Seaway and go up the beach and out of the way at Sth Straddie before you plagued the southern peaks or attempted the Spit and if you can't get up early and find an empty bank between Southport and Coolangatta to serve your apprenticeship, why would you think you'd have right to paddle out on one of the points ? It's no different to surfing in the 70's......if you were not up to the task, you didn't paddle out at such spots and if you did, you'd have a fist in your face pretty quick.....I don't condone violence at all but that was the way I grew up and it's no different now, ply your trade out of harms way then have a crack when your buddies tell you that your ready. ShireSUP has the idea, 12 months in the Bay, now heading to Greenhills and into waves on his own and not tempting fate at The Alley or Point.....using some brains and in time, he'll be competent to have a crack but knowing his limits, abilities and using common sense in the meantime while putting **** loads of hours and energy into getting there...doesn't happen overnight as a SURFER would know.
I know your type too mate, the carpark hero with your head up your own a***. Plenty of people on here as well as riding SUP's are experienced shortboard surfers too (shock horror). Personally from the age of 5 I've grown up surfing the Gold Coast points and surfed all over the globe for the last 30 years so yeah I must be a kook...
NSW
9304 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 11:14 am        Report
CMC said... There are no online links yet. The pic below is the article, you maybe able to zoom and read but you will get the drift in the headlines.
I still can not find any but if you go to the App store you can download the Gold Coast Bulletin App and get todays paper in PDF format in a flash to your iPad. I do not think that the article is that bad towards SUP's - more water users in general. As CMC said the SUP is probably the straw that broke the camels back. When I was learning (20 plus yrs ago) if you got in the way you were TOLD the rules and learnt very quickly to obey them or you would get a whack around the head or the fins knocked out of your board or if they were nice you would be sent in. You learnt very quickly! Half the problem with these nice easy point style waves is that everyone paddles for the shoulder getting in everyones way instead of taking the medicine and copping it on the head. Pro surfers getting annoyed cracks me up - I believe a lot of those guys are responsible for the heartache as they tend to think they own the spots and want every wave and are not too good at sharing. Check their wave counts. It just pushes the frustration down the line as people adopt a similar attitude. Surfing is supposed to be a fun and enjoyable time in the water - not a dog eat dog world where everyone is trying to take advantage of others. Clearly where there are large metropolitan areas people need to learn to live with each other and be very careful and respectful of others. I made a decision 18 months ago to leave Manly as I could not handle the crowds anymore or the large numbers of learners - it was just too dangerous to be enjoyable. There are so many spots around the GC area I can not believe that everyone always wants to paddle out where everyone else is. It just does't make sense to me. Everytime I have been up that way wanting to surf the Superbank (when it worked...) I have neglected to because it looked like mayhem out there. Yet have found great waves on the beaches with hardly a soul out. Go figure. I struggle to see how they could enforce segregated areas.
NSW
1119 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 11:20 am        Report
Dallash, not sure why you are taking it so personally mate but I think you need to take the blinkers off, it's a description of the selfishness of some and you should be able to see that being the man of the world and all, relax a little, it may or may not relate to you and I'm sorry if you threw yourself in the bucket I refer too.
QLD
20 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 11:33 am        Report
supanimal said...
Dallash, not sure why you are taking it so personally mate but I think you need to take the blinkers off, it's a description of the selfishness of some and you should be able to see that being the man of the world and all, relax a little, it may or may not relate to you and I'm sorry if you threw yourself in the bucket I refer too.
I'll put you in that category based on the reply Hard not to take things personal given this. Relax a little? That's a bit rich coming from you after your previous rant supanimal. Anyway who gives a fark just go surfing. If your good enough kooks shouldn't worry you whatever you're riding
VIC
440 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 11:51 am        Report
The Goldie will will always be the Goldie. Nothing much has changed in the last 30+ years except the variety of craft in the water......and perhaps the crowd sizes. Surfing is no different to much of the rest of society......a lot of people just have no respect for others. To all people learning to surf any kind of board (shortboard, mal, SUP, whatever)......do the telented surfers (of whatever craft they are riding) a favour and go and learn how to surf and controll whatever it is you are riding away from the crowds. ITS JUST COMMON SENSE. The bigger the board, the longer the legrope, the less the experience of the rider, the more dangerous they are in a crowd. I've surfed shortboards for 30 years (mals & SUPs for a few) and I would be happy to share the lineup with anything (except jet skis, clubbies and goatboats) if they the rider surfed well and was respectful of others around him/her. Maybe all surf craft sold to newbies should have a boidegradable sticker on 'em, that takes at least a couple of years to disolve, that says 'LOOK OUT, I'M A KOOK'......cause it seems a lot of people don't have much common sense. That way every time they paddled out they would be reminded of their skill level. Would also warn others to keep an eye on them. M'mmmm.......maybe there is a more subtle way of going about it??
Vatican City
4214 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 12:11 pm        Report
QLD
7932 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 12:20 pm        Report
gold bully is sh1t,always full off sh1t and with second rate journalists. i would rather poke my eyes out than read the tripe that they come out with. nobody can tell me what to do,i am always polite and if someone wishes to give me crap,well im still pretty handy
NSW
9304 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 12:20 pm        Report
QLD
Vatican City
3844 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 12:21 pm        Report
Just like Ang and Mac said above it's unlikely that things will change based on this article. The reality is that it's a very fun thing to do, it's no surprise that people from all walks of life want to get involved. It's great that they are, try it once and people want to do it more, it ain't going anywhere but up that's for sure no matter what part of they get into. All you can do really is try to be a good ambassador for the sport, the suggestions on how to behave have been regurgitated here many times. Show people yourself that not all SUP riders are ignorant. You could be the reason another person tries it out or changes their opinion 'from they're all Kooks' to 'some of them are Ok' It's probably not a bad idea to give people you see abusing the priviledge a bit of a gentle reminder that they are acting as such. You can lead a horse to water though...
WA
24860 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 12:46 pm        Report
PTWoody said...
I can't read the article but from the headlines it looks like a slam at SUP, yet using a Joel Parkinson quote where he criticises Mal kooks for letting their boards go at Snapper. Are SUP surfers now responsible for incompetent longboarders according to this article?
Relax PT,its a load of crap. One mal rider today had a little fun with a sup guy today,asked him if he read today's paper and there's a 20mtr exclusion zone around longboarders,the guy had read the paper told my mate to f--k off with a smile all in good fun.
WA
15849 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 12:49 pm        Report
A health tool lol now thats funny, depends on what side of the tool you are on!!
WA
24860 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 1:09 pm        Report
Supanimal has changed since selling his longboards and confessed his love for stand up,is this the same guywho made a statement a few months ago about how great sup is or do I have this wrong
NSW
1119 Posts
Posted 3/3/2012, 1:37 pm        Report
62mac said...
Supanimal has changed since selling his longboards and confessed his love for stand up,is this the same guywho made a statement a few months ago about how great sup is or do I have this wrong
Haha mate, love the freedom of sup, hate the name the kooks are giving it. Once a surfer it's in your blood and riding a 7'6 and 9'0 solely these days.... Totally regret selling a couple Logs but they'll be back, stoked with the customs I've had knocked up though and laughing at the overnight legends of SUK and taking the piss out of them.
 
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